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By "white" I mean... hmm... it's just not very soulful. It's all about the loop, it's got to be grungy and dirty and soulful, ripped from an ancient rare groove record bought from a dingy rekka sto somewhere. That loop sounded like it might have come from a "Hip Hop Loops Sample CD" or something.

 

My musical mentor Chalke would have called it "earl grey". I got schooled in Roy Ayres and Ronnie Laws, Donald Byrd and Charles Mingus. The hiphop that gets me going is pretty much specifically the stuff that harks back to a particular sound and style. I'm aware that my tastes are incredibly specialist and narrow, but I can't help it. I may be a white boy from the south coast, but I like my music black as as midnight. That's the only way I can describe it.

 

Check out this track by St Germain:

 

 

That's fucking filth. The combination of those vocals with the 100% Pure Poison loop.

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Sure, I think I understand a bit better what you mean now.. I wasn't even sure if you meant the beat or the rapping. I think that string loop is beautiful though.

 

More reason for you to listen to that last one I posted though; I wanna see if I'm right in thinking that's more your speed. The horns are great; it just turns into a smoothass trumpet solo for the rest of the song from about 3:00 in.

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Incidently I found some old C90 and C120 tapes of some absolute mental tracks from late 80's, early 90's. OC - Times Up popped up on a show and the track was pure magic!

 

If you find anything special amongst those tapes and can rip them my mate has a blog, Only Built For Zshare Links, that he started just to upload stuff from his own tapes. It has moved on with interviews, his own little bootys and other stuff but he is still always looking for interesting radio freestyles etc to post.

 

http://djstepone.blogspot.com/

 

And Loki - thanks for reminding me of that St Germain track, must dig that back out, something of Gil Scott-Heron's B Movie in the vocal at the end, you are setting me off on a proper digging mission now.

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John Robinson & Lewis Parker - Harlem River Drive

 

I can't get enough of this track at the minute.

 

(I think you'll like this one btw, Loki)

 

Mmm... I can imagine blasting that out in a car on a warm summer's day. Not bad!

 

 

 

Shep - I know you and I have really similar tastes :) St Germain was/is great. Did you listen to much i-Cube? We're moving away from hip-hop here, but this

 

 

is just a beautiful track. Pure jazz for me. When the bigger break kicks in at about 4 minutes it's heaven.

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Bumping a thread because this seemed like the best place to post it.

 

 

Skepta Vs. Ghetts

Dizzee Vs. Wiley

Goodz Vs. Kano

D Double E Vs. Titch

 

Okay, so, I was driving home from Derby in the early hours of this morning browsing the radio stations looking for something to listen to when I found Radio 1's "Rock Show" which was playing nothing but shit that sounded like The Strokes. After despairing over the lack of heavy music on the radio I hit the seek button and it ended up on KISS FM just as the above track began. I've never been particularly interested in Grime but this one ticked all of the right boxes for me and blew me away with its relentless brutality. As soon as I got home I fired up the laptop and tracked down the track I'd heard and I've been listening to it non stop for about two hours, the reason for this post is to bring this to peoples attention and look for similar stuff.

 

So yeah, I want the heaviest, nastiest Grime you can find.

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Not underground in the slightest, but if you're looking for aggressive, angry rhymes over jarring grime beats then Dizzee's first album 'Boy In Da Corner' is amazing.

 

If you want something more under the radar check out 'Axiom EP' by Durrty Goodz which is straight up relentless quality tracks.

 

Also, a personal favourite is Johnny Was A Bad Boy by Wiley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDGzQ5h_cJQ .

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I downloaded a couple of cd/mixtapes at the weekend. Hit & miss, Slaine - The Devil Never Dies is pretty good. Slaine is one of my favourite mc's, he's pretty witty & can quickly change his flow depending on the tone of the song. Raekwon vs Nas - Verbal Intercourse. Some mixtape seemingly knocked up by a 14 year old who felt the need to cut his name into each track at the most inopportune moment. Threw the CD out of the window in a fit of rage

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That second album suffered from a total lack of Apathy and not enough Celph; nice to see them featured more heavily on the tracklisting from the 3rd album from last year. I never checked that out because the second was a let down but I will have to give it a listen.

 

I've been catching up on some more releases from Duck Down Records recently. They're one of my favourite labels in hip hop these days.

and Rock (collectively Heltah Skeltah) have two of the coolest voices about these days too; I'd like to hear either of them do a track with Celph.

 

As well as a bunch of their stuff (the last

album, and a mixtape from each of them I hadn't heard yet), I also got the Skyzoo & Illmind album, which is quite brilliant. Illmind is a
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Have you heard much of Reef Tha Lost Cauze? The couple of tracks he did with Snowgoons have been excellent, unsure if he's dropped a solo record or not yet. I'd also recommend the Styles of Beyond/Green Lantern 'Razortag' album, it's got Apathy & Celph on it, aswell as Esoteric (I think), it was availavble as a legit free download & is definitely worth checking out.

 

I'll get onto Heltah Skeltah later.

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Not consciously, no. I know the name, and I know I've heard him on posse cuts, but I don't know his voice and I don't know which one he is out of the general AOTP dogsbody.

 

That Razor Tag mixtape sounds like it would definitely be up my street; I'll be sure to check that out.

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Not yet but I'm really behind on hiphop releases as I've been listening to a lot of metal/hardcore recently. I'll get on it tonight, I checked out Heltah Skeltah last night....good shit. Downloaded D.I.R.T and stuck it in the car this morning.

Have you heard the DJ Muggs & Ill Bill collab 'Kill Devil Hills'? I found it hit & miss but when it's good it's really good. There's a track with Raekwon that's absolutely blinding.

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