SpursRiot2012

1 minute ago, Chest Rockwell said:

Yeah. I'm sure there is, or the general politics thread. Really not a conversation that needs to be in here. I'm looking at you, Spurs!

Don't look at me like that, Chest

To be fair, my intitial post was simply me celebrating the fact that my future wife has found out she's entitled to Irish citizenship. It then did degenerate into a Brexit conversation, I grant you.

14 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

Why are people still using this thread. Isn't there a Brexit thread somewhere, there must be?

You will not stop until every, last megathread is consigned to history, will you?!

39 minutes ago, Cod Eye said:

Personally speaking though, I feel that long term it won't matter as I can honestly see the EU as we know it crumbling in the mid term future. 

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I don't exactly disagree that the EU as we know it will undergo significant changes in the future, but I think freedom of movement is such a core ideal to the whole European project that "European citizenship" and freedom of movement will be retained, in whatever form the EU takes in the future. Those are the most important elements of being a European citizen for me, my partner and I want my children to have the same freedom of movement rights I've always had, too.

Yeah, you can say that, but after Brexit you (or whoever) will no longer be European citizens, which may not be important to you but is incredibly important to a huge section of the population.

You can talk all that, "We're leaving the EU, not Europe" stuff all you want, I don't buy it. I think it's a Brexiteer line and Brexiteers are generally lying pieces of shit, so...

1 hour ago, PowerButchi said:

 

Court's a bit busy mate, he's MLW to worry about. as is Meltzer (shouting at people on twitter) and Keller (fuck knows these days). You have to slowly slowly catchy monkey as regards wrestling journalism, it's a closed shop. No-one's going to let you in straight away until you've done a fair bit of it first, or at least recognise your name.

I know. I've said in my messages to all that I realise they're very busy and don't expect an immediate, if any, response.

17 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

I don't want to get into this again, but it's easier said than done when you can pay the wages and transfer fees that they have.

Yeah, it is, and they do have more resources than we do, especially given their deep run in Europe last year.

However, by all accounts, we raised our wage ceiling to £200k a week. As an example of a player we could have signed and were apparently looking at: Shaqiri went to Liverpool for £13.5m (release clause value). When he came on today for them, he looked good. He's not a world beater by any means, but he'd have been a useful addition to our squad. £13.5m in this market is an absolute bargain for a player like Shaqiri and we didn't even try for him. And it's not like he would have been asking for £200k, either - apparently, he got just over 100k at Liverpool.

If the stadium build has made it so that we can't even afford to pay £13.5m for a player that would have undoubtedly improved our squad, which was desperately needed if we intended to fight on multiple fronts this season, then we are fucked for years to come unless and until the club is sold.

So, I've long known I'm entitled to Irish citizenship and am in the process of acquiring an Irish passport. I and my partner looked into ways, at the time I first started looking at it, that she too could get Irish citizenship, but it isn't as simple as her marrying an Irish citizen to get a passport. You would have to live in the Republic for, I believe three or five years before you could be considered.

Today, my partner found out that her grandfather, although he didn't actually live in Ireland for very long at all, was actually born there. Thus, she too is entitled to Irish citizenship, meaning we can both retain our European citizenship and our rights to freedom of movement to live, work and study in any one of 27 other nations and, just as importantly (once we get married) any children we have will also have that right, the right *everyone* in the UK currently has and most are about to lose.

So fuck you, Brexit. Fuck you, Boris Johnson. Fuck you, Michael Gove. Fuck you, David Davis. Fuck you, Jacob Rees-Mogg. Fuck you, John Redwood. Fuck you, Theresa May. Oh, and an extra special fuck you to Nigel Farage. Have your "red, white and blue Brexit." Have your sunshine and lollipops and rainbows and unicorns Brexit. Or, alternatively, enjoy the shithole that the UK will further become once Brexit happens. It's going to be monumentally shit and I'm so happy that I can take myself off to any number of other countries, without having to worry about a work visa or anything else.

I'm sorry if I've offended any Leave voters here who still think Brexit is a good idea but I am so incredibly happy that me and my future wife and our future children get to Remain European.

14 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

Hand your fucking season ticket in.

I didn't get one since the club's claim that season ticket prices in the new stadium would be "comparable" to those at Wembley turned out to be a massive lie.

In all seriousness, with club bias glasses off, there's no way that Liverpool aren't, I would say, significantly better than us, on paper, right now. That's not to say that our first 11 can't or won't beat them, just that on paper I get the horrible feeling we're going to start in our new home with a potentially devastating loss.

And it all goes back to what I said about Liverpool addressing their shortcomings in the summer and us not bothering. It is what it is, I guess. With how things stand, I'll be quite happy if we manage to even achieve a top four finish this season.

Just now, Keith Houchen said:

Also known as "Professional Apartments" in Tottenham.

Hey, you could absolutely swing a very small, emaciated cat up in my living room.

I thought Liverpool looked excellent today. I mean, they did exactly what Spurs didn't do - they identified their weak areas over the summer and fucking dealt with them, and it showed today. Alright, it's only West Ham, but still an impressive performance from them. I am not looking forward to getting spanked off Liverpool in the first game at our new stadium.

Having said that, if I were to base who I think will win the league based just on the first game week, it'd be City. They look so...fluid. Some of the passing within the City team, even in incredibly tight spaces, was unreal. I don't think, despite how good Liverpool look to be, that they're quite at City's level (and, yes, I know they beat them in Europe but I don't think they can better them over the course of 38 games).

 

5 hours ago, unfitfinlay said:

Jesus. That's just grim to think about.

Googling that, I noticed that Martinez has said a wrestler tried to rape her when she was in WWE and both she and Russo have said Divas have told them they'd been raped by wrestlers. That's really fucked up.

It's a pretty sobering realisation that most of our heroes have either done really shitty things or just looked the other way and let them happen. Even going back to the ring boys scandal.

Fucking hell, a bit off the subject here, but I just read that the reason Cornette and Bolin don't talk anymore is because Cornette hired someone to "murder" Vince Russo?!!

Yeah, I suppose "Who would like the honour of representing Mick Foley in a defamation lawsuit?!" doesn't really work.

I have actually dropped an e-mail over to Shelly Martinez - she wasn't around the business at the time I'm focusing on, but I'd like to hear - if she's willing to talk - what the deal with her and Foley was and I'm also interested to hear what her experiences as a female performer in the wrestling industry were like at that time.

I messaged Court Bauer to see if he stood by the Orton story, by the way. He's seen the message and chosen not to respond, so I am going to go ahead and assume he's standing by it. I have a sort of intro article already written outlining what I'm looking to achieve that tells the Orton story as an example of what the wrestling business considers normal, but am waiting on replies to a few e-mails (WWE media team, Meltzer, Keller, Mitchell) before I publish. The reason I'm e-mailing the likes of Meltzer and Keller is that I am hoping that they might be there as a steer for me. So, when I'm compiling all the stories of mistreatment and abuse, I can run one by one of the two guys and they can either say, "yeah, there is something to that one, worth pursuing" or "no, that one is total bullshit. I wouldn't waste your time." My worry is they will just write me off as some crazy idiot and not reply to any of my emails.

Edit: People are probably sick of me clogging up this thread with all my plans here, so when I've published the first article - wherever that ends up being - I'll post a link, and I'm going to set up a blog detailing all the work I'm putting in so everything is as recorded as possible.

I'm not usually a fan of supporters getting on the backs of their own players, either.

Having said that, at Spurs, Sissoko is a fucking liability. For some ungodly reason Poch seems to think his raw athleticism makes up for the fact that's he's an absolute detriment to our passing game. Levy only signed him to spite Newcastle after they spanked us by four goals on the last day of a couple seasons ago. This is a rib that's gone on too long!

1 hour ago, Maverick said:

Rafa will keep Newcastle up comfortably this season can only assume @PunkStep is speaking off the back of MOTD highlights. Also hope Wolves are headed for the conference. Never seen a side who got money have fans get so arrogant so quick. 

Woah, now, thats a bold statement.

I reckon City fans were worse, at least the ones I encountered. In terms of of fans of teams who got bought and then used money and connections to have success and then acted like fucks, it goes City, Chelsea, Wolves.

Though to be fair literally the only Wolves fan I "know" is Teedy Kay.

1 minute ago, PunkStep said:

@Teedy Kay

 

Spurs' kit today was rotten.

It really is. I got an email from the club today trying to flog me one. Apparently all that mess at the top of the shirt, which I took for some kind of shitty "splash of paint" design, is actually an aerial map of the N17 area.

Either way, it's horrendous.

Well, if Rockstar are looking to cash in on a current craze (as they did with zombies), we can expect a battle royale mode DLC.

Luckily, I had Neves in my starting 11.

Good game, that.

Double post.

Fuck the MOD Police. Fu-fu-fuck the MOD police.

I really think I'm going to make a go of, firstly, cataloguing alleged incidents that certainly have a ring of truth to them before then deep diving into each incident, seeing who'd be willing to speak with me (alleged victims, witnesses) and see where it goes.

Jannetty certainly has a lot to answer for. He has essentially admitted date raping women during his Rockers run, so he's on my list, so to speak.

I also think the WWE specifically has a lot to answer for. They're at the forefront of the "women's revolution" yet no other company has been as guilty of turning a blind eye to the mistreatment of their female performers, on such a large stage, as that company. And that's before you even think about the days of the "wrestling rats" that the boys used to use and discard, town to town, to while away the hours before traveling to the next spot. I'm going to get in touch with one of my journalism lecturers from uni (he's been a journalist for 30 years and was *the* journalist for the ANC during apartheid in South Africa) because, frankly, I'm not experienced enough to navigate especially the legal side of things by myself and can imagine that, if the WWE felt threatened with anything I'm able to put together, I'd have McDivitt on my arse pretty quickly.

If anybody with a deeper knowledge of a lot of the incidents we've heard about would like to collaborate on this, drop me a PM

6 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

Never bet on a newly promoted side. You just don't know how they will get on.

Luckily it was a £10 free bet I got for signing up for Sky Fantasy Football (which sucks, by the way - the official Premier League FPL is way better)

I also had Wolves on that acca which isn't looking good right now. I blame Teedy Kay, he had me believing Wolves were going to smash the league.

Fucks sake. I had Watford down to lose against Brighton for sure and felt confident that Fulham would win. Way to fuck both my acca and my FPL team guys.

14 minutes ago, Little Johnny said:

I don't think that's an indication of his guilt though. They probably only reply to journalists.

Burn.

Edit: well, I'm assuming it's a burn as I do hold a fully recognised UK press card. I doubt they'll reply to me more because I don't work for any outlet they'll have ever heard of.

Also, it's not an indication of his guilt, no. But if he was indeed whipping his dick out in front of new writers, rubbing it and then demanding they shake his hand lest he run to Stephanie or whoever (with the implied threat to the writers job), that's unacceptable behaviour in the workplace at best and serious sexual harrassment at worst.

Spurs, looking pretty far from their best, still able to put down Newcastle. Granted, Newcastle had some great opportunities to draw or even go on to win, but didn't take them, plus NBCSN acting like Rondon is the second coming was doing my head in so well happy with that win.

Imagine a #MeToo movement based around how women have been treated in the WWE in the past. Not just sexual stuff, but all the weird shit like somebody (was it Shawn?) shitting in Sable's bag (I think that's the story, I forget the details now, but you get the point.)

There is so much shit in wrestling's past especially that would bring down any over company. You can't tell me Vince wasn't doing some questionable shit with women back during the 80s boom period. I wouldn't believe you. For whatever reason, as much as pro-wrestling has moved into the light in terms of acknowledging it's all a work and the death of kayfabe, the boys all still seem to protect the boys (and the promoters even, given that much of the reason Vince  didn't get nailed by the feds on the steroids thing was because a bunch  of guys refused to talk about  inside stuff) And it's a wonder to me that half the guys working in the 80s and 90s haven't found themselves at the wrong end of a Twitter expose.

In fact, I might write a series of articles based on the many alleged incidents of harrassment, both sexual and otherwise, in the WWF/E, historically, against women and have just shot an email over to their media relations team asking for a comment on the Randy Orton story from Court Bauer's podcast. I'm not expecting much if anything back but we shall see.

I get what Bacon is saying to the point that, yes, we have never been a high and free spending club under Levy's stewardship unless it was money we got from player sales (Bale) and, yes, us complaining about it isn't likely to change anything but I'm of the opinion that a unified, vocal message from the supporters that we are no longer content with being a "nearly" club because Levy and Co don't want to spend the money might force the issue - either get Lewis to open the purse strings for the players we need or sell up. Shit or get off the pot, essentially.

I think Bacon is a Ministry of Defence police officer, so he doesn't need thick skin 😂

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-part-of-the-reason-we-did-not-sign-anyone-tottenham-boss-pochettino-says-11468247

Fucking Brexit tho

Bacon, Levy said the stadium build wouldn't have an effect on player transfers. Clearly it has so either he was lying to placate the THST (which is where I believe he first said that) or massively wrong in his predictions about how the stadium would affect our financial situation.

Plus, Enic value the club at 2bn. So when they do sell, it really is going to have to be to someone in the top ten on the Forbes list or something.