Keith Houchen

3 minutes ago, Fog Dude said:

All right Keith, teach me how to argue properly then.

I'm sure @David will clear it up himself but to me it looked like he was saying how a party calling themselves socialist acted in a way that were anything but left wing.  He didn't   make any reference to the political leanings of the Catalan independence movement at all but you then waded in saying he was making a Guardian like mistake about their political leanings.  Something he hadn't even mentioned.

I'm sure he will clear it up anyway but it's bad form to invent his "Mistake"

None of that has anything to do with David's point that you quoted though and doesn't back up the claim levied against him by you.

3 minutes ago, Fog Dude said:

 

On 8/6/2018 at 3:58 PM, Devon Malcolm said:

Yeah, but the Allsvenskan is far stronger than the SPL so you can take it that if Malmo are in sixth then that's going to be a tough tie for Celtic.

Mind you, I don't think they'll get past AEK but we'll see/

D Mal knows.

35 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

I'm a huge Scorsese mark

BriGAYed more like, amirite?

I'm all for having him removed from the film.

Yeah but you got me all excited about a film with The Rock and Emily Blunt, now Jack Whitehall is in it so I refuse to open my heart again.

Well this is lovely from Barnsley. cc @Cod Eye

It was a running joke on Fantasy Football as well.

3 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said:

To answer your question Keith: yes, we do indeed still plan to move to Europe once me and her both get our citizenship issues sorted. It's unlikely to be Ireland: the opportunities in both our fields are not there in abundance and I really don't want to subject my partner to almost guaranteed daily racist abuse.)

 

I guess having citizenship to an EU country will smooth out that process massively so it makes sense to have it.  Yeah Dublin may have the opportunities, Cork to a lesser extent but I find those places pretty expensive and as you say, last thing you want in your life is daily racist abuse.  Hopefully other countries don't have the same problem.

Due to my worsening health, I haven't lived or worked there for quite a few years now and probably never will again.  Manchester is my home.  Despite being a proper 100% potato wog, I get the old "You aren't proper" and my folks had resentment as they moved over here when Kool Keith was a baby and retired back in Ireland.  Quite honestly that kind of mentality doesn't want to make me move back there.  However, this is their home town I'm talking about, not the whole country.

2 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

There are loads of stupid comic book

Just stick an "S" on the end of that and it's still accurate.

3 minutes ago, Cod Eye said:

It's obviously your prerogative to have the outlook you do, but Keith is right. Your reasons for getting Irish/dual citizenship(for how it benefits you personally, with no care for how it affects the many/the country it's self) is a very Tory-esque attitude. Your politics in general may not be right leaning, but that outlook on your dual nationality is.

Quite right, which is why I made the distinction between the process being tory, not the person.

It's not about this country, It's about you getting citizenship for a country you have no intention of benefiting and all to do with it benefiting you, you've already said that yourself.  It's 100% selfish by you own definition and therefore Tory as fuck.  If you were going to live and work there, that would be different.  Although I remember you saying you were quitting the UK after the referendum so if this is part of that plan, then apologies.

4 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said:

But, yes, absolutely, I want citizenship because of the benefits it gives me. I have no problem admitting that.

How very Tory of you.

Certain Sections refers to members of the populace who are more "Irish than thou", but as you've said you don't give a fuck about them.

40 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said:

My roots are in rural Ireland. My partner's sister went with her fiance to Mayo (where all my family on my dad's side come from) and, with her having Asian features, was treated like shit the entire time she was there. The idea that I'd subject my partner to that sort of shit just because someone wants to label me or her "plastic" Irish who just want the passport for the EU benefits, they can fuck off. If I took my partner to Mayo, I'd end up locked up because I'd hit the first prick who made a comment about her "chinky eyes" or whatever right in the fucking mouth.

Seems really odd that you'd want citizenship of a place that is like that. It's a case of asking what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country.  Quite frankly, I can see why you'd not ever be considered Irish and be resented by them.  The racist stuff can fuck right off though.

1 minute ago, Carbomb said:

I went to visit my cousin's in-laws in Ireland last year, and chatted about this with one of the brothers-in-law. He said it's not something that he agrees with, but he understands where it comes from, because Ireland's always suffered from a talent/brain drain owing to emigration, and that an often-held perception is that such people are getting all the benefits of being Irish, but aren't paying back in by sticking around to help build the country up. I saw over here in London a number of Irish papers with articles that validate the truth of that assertion (that there are people who hold it, not that it's correct), one in particular being that the Irish Ministry for the Diaspora has set up a scheme offering 100,000 EUR bursaries to any Diasporic Irish (though there's a clearly-stated preference for Irish Americans) who have a strong, innovative business plan, and who are prepared to move to Ireland to start it up and build it there.

And those who are returning to invest are getting grief.  When the whole Celtic Tiger economy was going down the drain, the calls for people to return were made by the government, those who went back were labelled plastics.  Ireland can be a very racist place in the rural parts, it sickens me to hear people blaming Romanians and the like for problems when they told you ad nauseam about "No Blacks No Dogs No Irish" in the past.

The following table may help to explain the situation: 

Carry on from @SpursRiot2012 clogging up the wrong thread, this might be of interest to you.  I take it your partner is D?  I have an Irish passport, be prepared for hostility from some sectors who dislike Irish passport holders who don't live there or even went abroad to work.  Maybe it's just small town mentality or whatnot but the resentment is there.

The context was renaissance artists, I should have clarified great classical works.  I know Motown and Stax were every bit as production line as SyCo but that's not really the case in Classical.

7 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

I hope we dont end up finding @SpursRiot2012 in a wheelie bin with a sock in his mouth once the article is posted.

Also known as "Professional Apartments" in Tottenham.

3 hours ago, Fog Dude said:

Pedantry isn't a gimmick

Your custom member title doesn't make it seem like a gimmick at all.

1 hour ago, unfitfinlay said:

It's in no way evidence of his guilt but it's surprising that Foley, in particular, hasn't responded or got the lawyers involved. He's tweeted folk from here before to tell them how upset he was that they slagged him off, but he's saying nothing about getting called a nonce? 

Because it's Foley, it could be a case of tweeting someone is free but as Punk and Cabana will tell you, getting the lawyers involved costs a decent wedge of bunce.

37 minutes ago, TildeGuy~! said:

Do you have a link to the other announcements? 

Most of the time GTA is fine.  Sure my cargo gets blown up sometimes but it's seldom by a FCT.  Nobody seems to ever want to join my Corp though, can't say I blame them.

One hopes the FA see sense and this bit of cowardly cheating results in expulsion from the football league

That's a good point, I always thought RDR was pretty level for the most part, but this is the company that gave us flying car twats in GTA.