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4 hours ago, Keith Houchen said:

One person got numbers wrong and didn’t correct it, it’s not some coke fuelled paranoia that it means the media want it to not sell out. Most of the media couldn’t give a fuck about wrestling.

Which makes the Coppinger tweet what it was. This wasn't WWEGareth or some guy trying to get click bait money. It was the ESPN boxing writer who wrote it. I don't believe in coincidences and a CAA guy writing a blatant lie was not a coincidence. 

It's deffo not coke paranoia because it's been two months since I've done that lol

@Keith Houchen The whole people wanting the All In tickets sales to fail come from WWE uber fans (I'd use the word Stan but I got told off for it on here once) who trying to claim the numbers aren't real.

The Coppinger tweet was just spectacularly erroneous and disproved within 2 days and yet he hasn't said "yeah, got that wrong" despite correcting errors in tweets about locations of future boxing fights in the last 48 hrs. So why not correct himself in the All In seating plan tweet. Coincidence that he was CAA client, Nick Khans old place of work obviously. Like it was a coincidence that Coppinger named Nick as the third most influential man in boxing. 

Journalists are always going to be biased. But there's a difference between saying "I think WWE is better than AEW" and blatantly lying on twitter about AEW only planning for 40,000 and not going "oops" when proved wrong. 

15 hours ago, CleetusVanDamme said:

https://www.f4wonline.com/news/wwe/roman-reigns-advertised-for-wwe-money-in-the-bank-london

I have this image in my head of Triple H with his tie undone, hand propping his head on the phone saying "Look Roman, we really fucking need you for Money In The Bank. Those Elite guys are going to sell out Wembley ffs" 

For those who don't know who Louis is he "writes" for Give Me Sport (who may be paid by WWE to be nice to them) 

He made a joke about Vice Media going bankrupt, pissed people off and then it turned out he was a sex pest. 

He did say when All In at Wembley was announced that he wasn't going because it was his birthday weekend. Because obviously if you write about wrestling for a living the idea of  going to a wrestling event on your birthday is abhorrent. 

Maybe he will go now considering he hasn't got any friends any more. 

2 hours ago, d-d-d-dAz said:

It amazes me people with actual power and influence put this much time and effort into Twitter.

Just sell more tickets and Copp will be shown to be demonstrably wrong. Arguing with him on Twitter is just pointless.

Tony knows what he's doing. 

He's pointed to Coppinger and yelled "Nick Khan stooge" and people have gone "oh, Nick Khan has stooges in the media" 

Coppinger is one of Nick Khan's former clients who has conveniently become a wrestling historian in the last two years.

Not enough gets talked about this imho

I remember watching WCW when I was a kid and Schiavone mentioning Ticketmaster and thinking Kevin Sulkivsn ran the company. Judging by the horror stories I've read today, I think he'd do a better job than the morons in charge of TM

@Matthew we have some nice restaurants here in Birmingham. We have a Toby Carvery and a Dixy Chicken if you need food. 

Left field opinion here. Maybe Punk is recruiting for the Saturday night show. Impact do have guys on short term deals and Punk as well as saying hi to people was maybe doing some scouting for Collision. 

Also if you watch Punk become Muffin Man at All Out again, he makes references that suggest he might actually some stake or points in the AEW. He says "I'm trying to run a business here" 

2 minutes ago, Statto said:

Having Shawn Michaels act pissed off at the NXT call-ups was kind of odd. It's very much back to being presented as a developmental brand again, surely the person in charge of developmental should be chuffed when their proteges make the big leagues?

Plus, it's two more titles he can vacate and fill with multi-person ladder matches, so it ought to be his dream scenario.

Shawn Michaels being irrationally pissed off. Most realistic booking in wrestling in 2023 

I'm guessing the Doink episode is about Matt Borne. 

2 hours ago, Kfogg1991 said:

Christ the ones that jump out as potentially being depressing as fuck are the Tammy and the Marty janetty episodes

The Graham family one might be a dark horse in the depression stakes. Although having to deal with an hour of Vince Russo being Vince Russo in the Bash 2000 ep might make me contemplate the point of it all

I like the Owen Hart Cup idea for this year. 

Going through Forbidden Door acknowledges his time in New Japan and Canada hosting it with Calgary getting the finals is really cool. 

But is it really going to be an opening ceremony if Mr Bean isn't playing Chariots of Fire on the keyboard. 

Lockdown was the thing that killed Dark. There was a fun 1 hr show in there before Dailys Place was a thing. Elevation was just there to give people something to do while they were in Jacksonville. First show aside, the only things I've watched from AEW Velocity was Abadon, Brandon Cutler and The Acclaimed. 

11 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

Seen it reported a few places on Twitter that he's kissed and made up with The Miz. Which, if true, is far and away the biggest story in wrestling that will happen this year. Because that's bordering on an apology.

CM Punk. Apologising. It's the apocalypse.

Next person should be Colt

Stupid idea. Only thing that can save this is Cody winning this and we can all laugh at Cody's story finishing in a worse way than a JJ Abrams series. 

Belt looks disgusting. Looks like someone with behavioral problems nicked Big Gold and got a stencil to it

On 4/23/2023 at 9:33 AM, 2Xtreme_lives said:

On 4/23/2023 at 9:17 AM, FelatioLips said:

 

it wasn't the best dream i've ever had but if it happens we know Tony is definitely reading this forum

The day we know TK reads the forum is the day we find out that Keith has been found after a "autoerotic asphyxiation" accident. 

On 4/19/2023 at 4:20 PM, Hannibal Scorch said:

I have to say since he’s AEW run, I actually have come to really like Justin Roberts. Probably the best RA in wrestling right now, although maybe that speaks more about current talent. However that Samatha woman is bloody awful and doing the announcing sitting down is proper Indy level shit. Get in the bin.

It's almost as if Justin Roberts was produced badly and out of the WWE bubble he's good 

Samantha sounds like she's trying to start a fight everytime she's on the mic

Booking two evil groups coming to a business arrangement and it all go tits up felt like Triple H sending a message out to the wider public on his thoughts on the merger 

The Bully/ladder/refs beef was amusing but if the refs hated Bully so much why didn't they just count to 3 after the DVD even if Bully did kick out

13 hours ago, Fatty Facesitter said:

Crowd - I know the venue isn't massive but fucking hell, give it some wellie Toronto, would you

Impact crowds have been shit for awhile. The Alexander/Bailey match a bunch of people raved about had a crowd that sounded like it had never watched wrestling before. 

Just watched the San Jose NJPW show on YouTube on their channel and after watching Jay White get kicked out of Bullet Club by Finlay, seeing Jay set up BC Gold has got me thinking that Jay is wrestling's version of George Costanza. "If you turn up in the Bullet Club shirt, does it mean I wasn't kicked out of the group?"

1 minute ago, Loki said:

Meltzer is reporting that the rent on Wembley Stadium is $400,000.
 

@d-d-d-dAz does that sound right?

Meltzer quoted Eddie Hearn when saying this fwiw 

I would imagine that Tony knows every bit of worth when it comes to Wembley considering the Jaguars play there once a year and his dad tried to buy the stadium several years ago. 

I have a feeling that Jay White was supposed to debut later on but with Vince being back, I think Tony brought it forward so it looked like they got one over WWE and made them look bad after the debacle of Monday Night Raw. 

The BCC are finally doing what they should have done a year ago. The whole "let's make this place better" vibe was the story of Danieson vs Moxley at Revolution. 

I wish Hayter vs Riho was 10 mins longer

MJF Day was better sports entertainment than anything WWE have done bar Mysterios and Bloodline in the last 10 years

The one that is interesting to me is that while Nick Khan is a conniving shit and Ari has the morals of a sociopath, they are rich people in LA for a reason. 

Nick must see Vince changing things and going "why is he doing this" and while Triple H's show was boring aside from the Mysterio's/Bloodline vs SamiKo and Gunther, you can see that there was great growth in ratings. Then Vince comes back and does Vince things. 

How long until Ari and Nick go ask Vince to fuck off? 

35 minutes ago, Loki said:

I mean, this was Dusty's booking philosophy in the 80s wasn't it?  The money is in the chase?  Dusty himself generally came up short against Flair.  It's an old-school idea that you keep your champ as heel and heat up babyfaces as opponents.

It's not something that has ever really worked in WWE until this Reigns reign.  Historically WWE over the last 20 years has struggled to make credible babyface top stars beyond Cena, and so usually it was face champ, monster-of-the-month challenger.

But over the last few years they've managed to make us all think Reigns was losing on a number of occasions.  So from that perspective, the system is working!  If they can heat up Gunther, Cody rematch, face Orton, there's another 12 months of booking.

But Dusty won the title at the first time of asking in the 70s I think. Yes, he lost the belt shortly after because the NWA belt was a heel title with the heel champ going into territories to defend the belt. But at least the fans knew he could beat the champ. 

Even when he didn't win at least he pinned the champ with a "Dusty finish" playing into effect. 

Last night Cody was just another guy who lost to Roman

Maybe my brain is working properly today but can someone tell me a time when a popular Babyface loses a big world title match and then comes back later down the line to win the belt on the second attempt and that reign was great business wise?