Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted April 17 Paid Members Posted April 17 (edited) Ha, this is tomorrow⦠PARAMOUNT+ MAIN CARD Gilbert Burns vs Mike Malott Kyler Phillips vs Charles JourdainĀ Jai Herbert vs Mandel Nallo Jasmine Jasudavicius vs Karine SilvaĀ Thiago Moises vs Gauge YoungĀ PARAMOUNT+ PRELIMS Dennis Buzukja vs Marcio BarbosaĀ Robert Valentin vs Julien Leblanc Tanner Boser vs Gokhan SaricamĀ Melissa Croden vs Darya Zheleznyakova JJ Aldrich vs Jamey-Lyn HorthĀ Mitch Raposo vs Allan NascimentoĀ John Castaneda vs Mark VologdinĀ Jamie Siraj vs John YannisĀ Ā Not much to this one. If weāre being honest weāve had Apex cards that looked stronger than this going in. But whatever. Itās a Canada card full of Canadians. There are some decent fights on there, couple of debuts Iāll be keeping an eye on and at least the crowd should be invested. Worth a skim on Sunday. Not gonna whinge too much because the cards have actually been quite fun lately. Ā Gilbert Burns vs Mike Malott headlines. Yeah. Is it any wonder why I havenāt been in a hurry to knock this post up? I like Burns a lot, seems a great guy and heās been a very good fighter over the years. But it feels like heās on his last legs at this point. And Malott? They donāt make āem any blander than Mike Malott. Nothing against the bloke but thereās just fuck all to talk about there. Heās plain, dry, flavourless Ryvita in MMA fighter form. They keep trying with him though and here he is headlining a card in front of a home crowd. This is his chance to get in the rankings. Heās unranked, Burns is at #11. Yeah, just not sure what Burns has left now. Heās gonna turn 40 in July, heās 22-9 and heās coming into this fight off a four fight losing streak. There was a time a few years back when he was legitimately one of the top Welterweights in the game. He was never gonna be the champion, there was always that one guy he couldnāt beat. But he was always in and around that mix at the top end of the 170 division. Beat Gunnar Nelson, Demian Maia, Tyron Woodley, Wonderboy Thompson, Neil Magny and Jorge Masvidal. And he was one of those guys who had that reputation that heād step up and take fights against anyone, regardless of ranking or status. He genuinely didnāt seem to give a fuck and it was quite refreshing. He was the first guy to really give Khamzat Chimaev a test as well back in 2022. First guy to take Khamzat the distance and, while he clearly lost that fight, he made a scrap of it and had a few moments. Fought for the title in 2021 but lost to Kamaru Usman. Heās clearly been on the slide the last few years though. In his last four fights heās lost to Belal Muhammad, Jack Della Maddalena, Sean Brady and Michael Morales. OK, all top guys. But losses are losses and itās been three whole years now since Gilbert got a win. At nearly 40, itās gonna be hard to come back from that. His last loss was rough as well⦠He got beat down and stopped in a round by Michael Morales at the Apex last May. Fair enough, Morales has turned out to be one of the scariest rising contenders in the division. But Burns offered basically no resistance and got walked through, which never usually happens to him. He suffered concussion issues after that loss, which is why we havenāt seen him for the best part of a year. āThe Michael Morales fight was a weird one. Half of me thought that I quit. And then I rewatched it, I had a concussion. The guy was huge and hit me really hard. I was like, okay I didnāt quit. I wasnāt out but I fell and my head got swollen very big, next day bigger. And then the swelling went off and I was good for a week or soā¦and then I think it was International Fight Week, I got a flight to Vegas. On that flight, it kind of came back. My head was exploding when I got there. I went to the PI, did a bunch of tests, still had a concussion. Felt nauseous, throwing up, and then we had to readjust all the protocol again. Started doing hyperbaric chambers, going to the diet supplementation again. After that it was a month and a half and I was back in training.ā āI am turning 40 this year. As I am getting older, what drives me is that I know I can still do better. Iāve been 12 years in the UFC. This is going to be my 25th fight. Fought the best of the best. All this experience that I have, itās time to use it. Because I want to prove to myself that I can still do this on the highest level. I still believe I can perform against these young guys, but I need to work my butt off.ā - Gilbert Burns Sounds grim. We hear the word āconcussionā so much that you almost become desensitised to it but when you actually stop and think about your brain rattling around and swelling up like that, itās fucking terrifying. I hope Iām wrong but I feel like heās kind of deluding himself in that second paragraph there. Itās something no fighter ever wants to accept but, at 40, your best days are behind you and theyāre never coming back no matter how much you āwork your butt offā. It does kind of amuse me though how people talk about Malott like heās some promising young prospect. Heās gonna be 35 himself this year. Malottās the home fighter here. Hailing from Burlington, Ontario, Canada. Heās 13-2-1 with 11 of his wins coming inside the distance. Made his UFC debut back in 2022 (on the same card that Burns fought Khamzat actually) and stopped Mickey Gall in a round. Had a couple of wins after that and then ran into Neil Magny. From what I remember, Malott was winning that whole fight and appeared to be cruising to a comfortable decision win when he inexplicably fell to bits in the last minute or so and Magny subbed him with 15 seconds left on the clock. Disaster. Itās been his only loss so far in the UFC but itās the main thing that sticks in the memory about him for me. He bounced back with wins over Trevin Giles and Charles Radtke and then beat Kevin Holland on points in his last fight on the Vancouver card in October. Easily the biggest win of Malottās career to date but, even that, it was a mess of a fight and not exactly a āclean winā for Malott considering he blasted Holland in the bollocks a couple of times and it clearly altered the trajectory of the fight after that. What do we make of this then? Not the best is it? Theyāre obviously trying to set this up as Malottās big breakthrough moment in front of a Canadian crowd but I hope Burns wins. And I think he very well could. As much as Iāve said above that I think heās pretty close to done, Iām so unconvinced by Malott that I think Burns could still win this one. And while Burns is coming off those four losses, Malott is a significant step down from those four guys. In that sense, this should tell us a lot about what Burns has left in the tank. Because itās one thing losing to Belal, or JDM, or Brady, or a monster like Morales. Itās another thing entirely losing to Malott. That would suggest Burns is fully washed up to me, especially if he looks bad in defeat as well. Weāll see. But if Burns isnāt completely shot to bits, I absolutely think this is a fight he can still win. But pushing 40, four fight losing skid, concussion problems and a year layoff? Yeah, Iām not exactly confident. Ā Kyler Phillips vs Charles JourdainĀ could be a really exciting fight if theyāre both up for it. At one point I think both were seen as decent prospects but patchy form and hot and cold results have knackered that up. Both are still only 30, so theyāre far from the scrapheap, but I donāt see either suddenly finding the consistency to become a contender in a loaded division like Bantamweight. Nothing wrong with that either. Not everyone can be a title threat. Theyāll provide fun fights here and there regardless and I think this could be one of them. Jourdain is Canadian so he should be fired up to fight at home again. Heās 17-8-1 with 15 finishes and submitted Davey Grant in a round in Vancouver back in October. He subbed Victor Henry before that as well. Both wins bagged him POTN bonuses. And to be fair to Jourdain, that Henry fight was his debut at 135. So for all my talk of inconsistency, that was up at 145. At 135, heās currently 2-0. Weāll see how it goes. Phillips is 12-4 and coming off back-to-back decision losses to Rob Font and Vinicius Oliveira. Ā Jai Herbert vs Mandel Nallo is WinnipegāsĀ ***WANDāS ONE TO WATCH***Ā here. Try and say that ten times. There isnāt much to choose from on this card but I am actually looking forward to this. Itās Nalloās UFC debut. I knew I recognised the name so looked him up and he fought a bunch of times in Bellator a few years ago. Wasnāt a world beater there, won some, lost some. But he scored some big knockouts and one of them is obviously why his name was stuck somewhere in my memory. Iām pretty sure it was this one⦠Fuck me! Anyway, depending on where you look, Nalloās nickname is either āMangoā orā¦āRat Garbageā. OK then. Heās Canadian, trains out of Tristar (theyāre still going?), heās 36 years old and has a record of 14-3-0-1 with 14 not making it to the scorecards. Heās currently on a five fight winning streak and finished all five of those fights in the first round. Fought on DWCS in September and knocked out Samuel Silva in about three minutes. At 36, of course heās no spring chicken. Time is of the essence. But he seems like an entertaining fighter and if he was ever gonna have a bash at the UFC, itās now or never really. Herbert is from Wolverhampton, turns 38 a few weeks after this fight and heās 13-6-1 with 10 finishes. Very mixed results in the UFC. His most memorable moment was when he blasted and actually dropped Ilia Topuria with a headkick in their fight in London back in 2022, but even then, it was a fleeting moment of success and Topuria came back and absolutely waffled him into an unconscious heap the following round. Herbert comes into this fight off a split decision loss against Chris Padilla on the MarchĀ 2025 LondonĀ card. So heās been out over a year now. Heās primarily a striker so him and Nallo should have at least a solid stand up fight for as long as it lasts. Timing and recent results would suggest Nallo is probably gonna have a successful Octagon debut but you never know. Ā Jasmine Jasudavicius vs Karine Silva is whatever. Not the worst fight but itās not grabbing me either. Canadaās own Jasudavicius returns to home soil here to try to rebound from her devastating loss against Manon Fiorot back in October. Sheād been on a solid five fight win streak prior to that, was coming off a first round submission over former champ Jessica Andrade and was put in with Fiorot, who was the #2 ranked Flyweight at the time, and given home field advantage in Vancouver. Had she won that fight, I genuinely think she mightāve got a title shot. Didnāt exactly pan out. Fiorot, who had mostly been a decision machine in the UFC to that point, decided that then would be the time to absolutely blitz someone in the first round. What a bitch. Seriously, felt bad for Jasmine. I doubt sheād have had anything to trouble Valentina Shevchenko with had she got the title shot anyway but what a way for it all to go up in smoke. Faceplanted in front of your home crowd in a minute and change? Ruthless. Sheās already 37 as well. Itās not like sheās got a ton of time to climb back into contention. She might never get there again. If she loses this fight, she can probably forget about it. Brazilās Silva is 32 years old with a record of 19-6 and 17 finishes. Unusually high finish rate for a female Flyweight that. I remember enjoying her first few UFC fights actually. She busted out a couple of quick submissions and I remember her mangling Ketlen Souzaās leg with a gruesome kneebar. Sheās gone off the boil a bit of late though, dropping decisions to Viviane Araujo and Maycee Barber in two out of her last three fights. Ā Thiago Moises vs Gauge Young. Dunno. Moises is going nowhere. When I looked him up I was amazed to see heās still only 31 years old. Feels like heās been on the roster for donkeys years. He actually main evented a Fight Night against Islam Makhachev back in 2021, which seems mad looking back. Survived into the fourth round as well before being subbed. Heās been all over the shop results-wise over the years. Heās 19-9 now and was last seen getting knocked out inside a round by Jared Gordon last May. Barely remember Gauge Young. Heās only fought twice in the UFC, lost a decision against Evan Elder in his debut, then won a decision against Maheshate Hayisaer on the Shanghai card in August. Iām hazy on him. Heās 25 years old and 10-3 with 7 finishes. Ā Dennis Buzukja vs Marcio Barbosa is another one Iām only half vaguely familiar with. Seen Buzukja a few times. Heās 28 years old, 12-5 with 6 finishes, fights out of New York and heās a Ray Longo guy. Hasnāt fought since August 2024 for some reason though. And he was floundering then. Heās gone 1-3 in the UFC so far and lost a split decision to Francis Marshall last time out. Barbosa is making his Octagon debut here. Heās Brazilian, 27 years old and 17-2 with 16 inside the distance. Heās on a four fight winning streak, all four ended in the first round, including his first round TKO win on DWCS last August. Doesnāt sound like the worst signing. Ā Robert Valentin vs Julien Leblanc. Never seen Leblanc before and thisāll be his UFC debut. But just looking at it on paper, this feels like the matchmakers basically booking a squash match for Leblanc his first night in. Heās Canadian as well so a showcase win wouldnāt hurt as an introduction to the UFC. Heās 34 years old, 10-2 with 8 finishes, on a five fight win streak and stopped his last three opponents. Switzerlandās Valentin is 31 and has a 10-6-0-1 record. And heās been a 100% pure jobber in the UFC so far. Winless. Heās gone 0-3, was finished in two of them and got bashed up in just over a minute by Ateba Gautier last time out. Basically, if youāve got anything about you, anything at all, you really shouldnāt be losing to this guy. Ā Tanner Boser vs Gokhan Saricam. Heavyweights. Kind of enough said really. We just had that unexpected Hokit vs Blaydes banger. Thatās our quota filled now, weāll probably have to wait another three years for another good Heavyweight fight. Boser is making his return to the UFC here. He had a ten fight stint that lasted from late 2019 to summer 2023 and went 5-5 in that time. Most notable opponents were Ciryl Gane and Andrei Arlovski and he lost to both by decision. His last couple of UFC fights were at 205 and he left on a points win over Aleksa Camur in August 2023. Heās only fought once since, back up at Heavyweight, stopping Vinicius Moreira on a UAE Warriors card back in June last year. Heās Canadian, 34 years old and now 22-10-1 with 14 finishes. Saricamās Turkish, 35 years old and 11-2 with 8 finishes. This is his UFC debut but he previously fought in Bellator. A quick scan of his record tells me he beat Kiril āBaby Fedorā Sidelnikov in 2022. Thereās a fat, doughy, underwhelming blast from the past. Ā Melissa Croden vs Darya Zheleznyakova is just prelim filler but whatever. Croden is Canadian so it makes sense having her on this card. Sheās 35 years old with a record of 7-3, all finishes. Fought in LFA previously and made her UFC debut in Vancouver in October and got the late TKO win over Tainara Lisboa. She fought again at the Apex in December and lost on points to Luana Santos. Canāt even remember if I saw either of those fights though so fuck knows? Russiaās Zheleznyakova, AKA the āIron Ladyā, is 30 with a 10-2 record, 5 by KO/TKO. Sheās 2-1 in the UFC so far. Comes into this fight off a decision win over Melissa Mullins in their rematch on the Azerbaijan card in June. Sheād previously lost to Mullins in the Ares FC promotion. Ā JJ Aldrich vs Jamey-Lyn Horth. Nothing. No fucks to give. Going through the motionsā¦Aldrich is 33 years old, 14-7 and beat Andrea Lee on points in her last fight in March 2025 at the Apex. Sheās been in the UFC since 2016. 2016. Two thousand and sixteen! Itāll be a whole decade in December. And I couldnāt have told you anything about her record if I hadnāt gone onto her Wiki page. And I mustāve watched a bunch of her fights over the years. Zero memory whatsoever. Nothing against the woman but that is some astounding mediocrity. Horthās Canadian, 36 years old and 9-2 with 5 finishes. Sheās coming off a couple of wins here and scored a first round TKO over Tereza Bleda last time out in December. Ā John Castaneda vs Mark Vologdin might be worth a look on the Fight Pass bit. Itās Bantamweight, very rare the 135ers are bad to watch. Castaneda is 34 years old and 21-8 with 14 finishes. Hasnāt fought in a year now for some reason. He dropped a split decision against Chris Gutierrez last April. Lost on points against Daniel Marcos in his fight before that as well, so 0-2 in his last two here. Vologdinās making his UFC debut. Heās Russian, 25 years old and 12-4-1 with 10 not seeing the judges scorecards. Oddly, he lost a unanimous decision on DWCS in his last fight yet here he is. Anyone see that? Considering there have been fighters who didnāt get a contract after a win on DWCS, itās a bit of an odd one, unless there was some kind of controversy? Ā Jamie Siraj vs John Yannis jerks the curtain and was thrown together pretty late in the day. Think it was announced about a week before show time. Guessing these two were training anyway when the call came. Iāll give this a go. Itās the UFC debut of Siraj and I saw a bit of positivity to the announcement of his signing. Never heard of him myself but heās Canadian, 31 years old and has a record of 14-3 with 11 finishes. Hasnāt beat anyone of note and I see he got spin kick KOād by ex UFC fighter Diego Brandao just last year. Not great. Heās won two fights by submission since then. Yannis is also 31, heās 9-4 with 5 coming by KO/TKO and got subbed in a round by Austin Bashi in his UFC debut back in August. Ā The end šĀ Edited April 17 by wandshogun09 Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted April 17 Paid Members Posted April 17 Yeah, dont hate this. If if it was at the Apex id probably skip it but I like it witg a crowd, especially with lots of hometown fighters on, this is how it should be on a show like this. On the subject of Vologdin, his fight went viral if you remember. Fight of the Year type stuff on the Contender Series, both guys got contracts. Ā Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted April 17 Author Paid Members Posted April 17 Ahh makes sense then now on Vologdin! Vaguely recall something about that doing the rounds on Twitter but didnāt put Vologdinās name to it. Iām obviously fine with DWCS losers getting contracts if theyāre having bangers.Ā Quote
Dai Posted April 22 Posted April 22 The top half of this card delivered, which is all you can hope for on these shows. I cant remember anything from the two fights before the Herbert fight, which says it all about them. That Herbert KO was class though, and mirrored the Jiri KO from last week quite a bit. Great stuff. The Jourdain fight was a very good, high energy scrap too, and Malott finished the fight as perfectly as possible. It was a bit plodding to begin with, but when he started letting his hands go. Burns just couldnt cope with the power. Looked like they were huge power punches, even though it didnt look like he was throwing them with full force either. That initial combination with the uppercut was lethal too.Ā Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted April 25 Author Paid Members Posted April 25 This came and went. Not bad, not great, just there. Mike Malott got it done in the main event. He looked good, looked huge in there on the night and got the finish in what was the biggest name, highest profile fight of his career to date. Might sound harsh but Iām still not convinced though. You canāt fault him, he turned up and did his job about as well as you could have expected him to. But I donāt think it tells us much really because Gilbert Burns was clearly way past his best. Not Malottās fault. He could only fight the version of Burns that showed up and sport is all about timing. It just so happened that Burnsā time was up. Gilbert Burns retiring was the main story coming out of this card. I was happy and kind of relieved to see Burns call it a day after. Unless heās got some dark secret that heās hidden really well over the last decade plus, heās one of the good guys in a sport full of cunts. Nobody has a bad word to say about him, from other fighters to media who have dealt with him to fans whoāve met him. Just a class act. Everyone likes Gilbert. Except the arsehole crowd in Winnipeg apparently. I get they were gonna cheer for the Canadian, of course they were. But booing Burns and then chanting āFuck you Gilbertā during the fight? I thought Canadians were meant to be the nice version of Americans? BurnsĀ had quite a run. Took on all comers, sometimes probably to his detriment. Fought for the title, gave Khamzat probably his hardest fight to date etc. Luke Thomas raised a good point this week, that MMA was Burnsā second career. He was a BJJ world champion first. He did well. Sad to see him go out on a stoppage loss but I donāt think he wouldāve retired if heād won. Itās for the best. Hopefully he sticks to it. From what heās been saying since the fight, it genuinely seems like heās had enough and seems to recognise that, at this point, carrying on now would just be him fighting purely for a paycheque and he doesnāt wanna do that. Saw Burns talking the other day about going into MMA management and it sounds like heās looking to battle for fighterās rights and pay. He said āThose fights have to happen with Hunter Campbell, Sean Shelby and Mick Maynard. I know already itās not going to be peaceful every single time.ā So expect him to become an enemy of Dana and co in the not too distant future. Jourdain vs Phillips was fun as expected. Was never gonna be anything less than at least good was it? Donāt even have much to say other than, if youāre familiar with these two, it was pretty much exactly as youād picture a fight between them. Frantic pace, lots of movement and energy, lots of action. Phillips had some good takedowns but didnāt do a whole lot with them and I felt like Jourdain was the one doing a bit more damage whenever he had the chance. That ended up paying off for him on the scorecards. Jai Herbert vs Mandel Nallo was about as wild as a two minute fight gets. What a rollercoaster of a fight. Tremendous come from behind finish for Herbert as well. Thatās after being rocked and wobbled more than once himself, then dropping Nallo out of nowhere, then Nallo surviving and going for leg locks and shit, then Jai finally put him down for the finish. Madness. Two guys who looked like they had the exact same build just trying to behead each other in there. It was always gonna be enjoyable given both of their striking, which is partly why I highlighted it in the opening post, but it surpassed even my expectations. Felt a bit bad for Nallo, UFC debut on home soil, comes within nanoseconds of getting the finish, only to get walloped like that. Bullshit that these two never got a bonus. It was short but Iād probably have given this FOTN over Jourdain vs Phillips myself. Was happy to see Jasmine Jasudavicius get back in the win column at home. After getting faceplanted by Fiorot in Vancouver last time out, it wouldāve been rough if sheād lost twice in a row in Canada. Didnāt pay close attention to this, it didnāt look much good, but felt like a really close one to me by the end. Wasnāt a split but Jasmine mustāve just scraped it on all three scorecards. Sadly, at 37, I think sheās already maxed out her potential. Marcio Barbosa was the standout of the prelims by far for me. Maybe the whole card. What a fucking knockout! So beautiful I had to gif two angles of it⦠Dennis Buzukja couldnāt have hit the deck harder if heād been shot by an actual bazooka. Barbosa knew it was a wrap the second it landed as well. Instantly raised his hands and started walking off. Not a ton you can take away from this, Buzukja hasnāt been doing too well in the UFC and hadnāt fought in a long time. And it was over in just over a minute so we didnāt get to see much of Barbosa at all. But as an introduction, he couldnāt have dreamed of a better one. Interested to see who they match him up with next. Featherweight is full of tough tests and potential bangers for him. Definitely gonna be making a point to look out for his next fight. Gokhan Saricam absolutely smoked Tanner Boser. And to add insult to injury, Herb Dean kicked Boser in the head for good measure. Never change Herb. You big dopey klutz. Worst return to the UFC imaginable for Boser that. In Canada as well. Nice debut for Saricam though. Itās Heavyweight so itās probably not gonna amount to anything. Itās not like he looked particularly impressive before the finish here. But definitely not a bad way to end your Octagon debut. Castaneda vs Vologdin was a fun little scrap. Shame the fouls detracted from it, although they ended up saving Vologdin from a loss due to Castaneda getting a point deducted. So it worked out for Vologdin in a fucked up and painful way. A draw is better than a loss anyway. First time seeing Vologdin and based on this and hearing about that belter heās supposed to have had on DWCS, heās clearly gonna be a fun addition to the roster. Canāt see him doing too well but heās someone theyāll probably keep around if he keeps putting on fights like this. Quote
Dai Posted April 25 Posted April 25 First time seeing that Barboza KO. Nasty stuff! Reminded me of the Jonny Hendricks KO of Fitch. Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted April 25 Author Paid Members Posted April 25 (edited) Yeah, sure there was another one like that fairly recently. Think it was me and you who talked about it but canāt remember who it was giving or receiving the KO for the life of me. Got it @DaiĀ it was Punahele Soriano vs Uros Medic from January 2025. And while weāre on the subject, the Hendricks vs Fitch KO⦠Edited April 25 by wandshogun09 Quote
Dai Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) Couple of belters! I assume even for the Sorianno one we mentioned Hendricks too. Speaking of, I'm sure the Kampman KO that Hendricks did had a similar feel to it, where the person getting KO'd just falls like an oak tree. Edited April 25 by Dai Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted April 25 Author Paid Members Posted April 25 9 minutes ago, Dai said: Speaking of, I'm sure the Kampman KO that Hendricks did had a similar feel to it, where the person getting KO'd just falls like an oak tree. Yep. Mad thing is, that was the last finish Hendricks ever had. Thatās November 2012, he fought until November 2017 and not only never knocked anyone out again, he went 4-7 in his next 11 fights. In fairness, some of that was down to the ridiculous toughness of some of the opponents. I remember he had Condit hurt a few times but he wouldnāt go away. And there was the 50 combined minutes of war against Robbie Lawler in their two fights. But itās always funny to me how he went from knocking people dead to not being able to stop anyone seemingly overnight. Lots of PED rumours at the time and it does kind of ring true. Memoryās hazy now but didnāt he try to accuse GSP of juicing in the buildup to their fight but then got all weird when GSP demanded extra drug testing? Always thought Hendricks behaviour was suspicious there, and his subsequent drop off in form only made it look worse in hindsight. Keep meaning to rewatch GSP vs Hendricks actually. From time to time I still see it mentioned as āone of the worst robberies everā and my memory of it never lined up with that. I remember it being close but no robbery. Maybe a rewatch would be interesting. I might do a thread soon revisiting random old fights like that.Ā Quote
jimufctna24 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said: But itās always funny to me how he went from knocking people dead to not being able to stop anyone seemingly overnight. Lots of PED rumours at the time and it does kind of ring true. Memoryās hazy now but didnāt he try to accuse GSP of juicing in the buildup to their fight but then got all weird when GSP demanded extra drug testing? Always thought Hendricks behaviour was suspicious there, and his subsequent drop off in form only made it look worse in hindsight. Keep meaning to rewatch GSP vs Hendricks actually. From time to time I still see it mentioned as āone of the worst robberies everā and my memory of it never lined up with that. I remember it being close but no robbery. Maybe a rewatch would be interesting. I might do a thread soon revisiting random old fights like that.Ā Hendricks's decline was largely attributed to IVs being banned in late 2015, which helped fighters rehydrate and perform well after extreme weight cuts. However, IVs could also be used to mask PED use, which is why there was so much controversy over Mayweather being given a waiver by USADA to use a IV before his bout with Pacquiao.Ā Iirc, I watched GSP vs Hendricks twice, once live, once a few days after it occurred. Live, I scored the fight 48-47 to Hendricks. However, I scored the fight 48-47 to GSP upon the rewatch a few days later. However, the consensus today appears to be that Hendricks won, and I also despised Hendricks at the time (I never really warmed to him), so I can imagine I would score it to Hendricks if I watched again today.Ā Quote
Dai Posted April 25 Posted April 25 I think Hendricks and Barao either just had bad timing, or there was something in the USADA timing. With the IVs, I'm sure I remember seeing lots of bad pictures of Hendricks weighing in, so if he was gaining such an advantage from IVs then that would have had a massive impact. I'm sure he missed weight loads after the ban too. Quote
jimufctna24 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dai said: I think Hendricks and Barao either just had bad timing, or there was something in the USADA timing. With the IVs, I'm sure I remember seeing lots of bad pictures of Hendricks weighing in, so if he was gaining such an advantage from IVs then that would have had a massive impact. I'm sure he missed weight loads after the ban too. Correct.Ā After the IV ban, Hendricks got sparked by Wonderboy in the opening round, then missed weight twice for his next two bouts at welterweight, both of which he also lost. Hendricks then moved up to middleweight, where he lost two out of his three fights at that weight, and somehow managed to miss weight for one of those bouts.Ā Whether Hendricks was using the IVs toĀ mask PED use in addition to recovering from extreme weight cuts is unclear. What is clear Hendricks was very reliant on IVs to be a top fighter, perhaps more so than any other notable UFC fighter. Without the IVs, Hendricks would show up to welterweight fights completely drained and still sometimes miss weight. Even at middleweight, where Hendricks would naturally give up a lot of the size advantage he had at welterweight, he would still seemingly struggle to cut weight effectively and again show up to fights drained.Ā Edited April 25 by jimufctna24 Quote
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