Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 6 Paid Members Posted February 6 (edited) After a decade plus, itās nearly time⦠PARAMOUNT+ MAIN CARD Max HollowayĀ©ļøvs Charles OliveiraĀ - BMF Title Caio Borralho vs Reinier De RidderĀ Rob Font vs Raul Rosas Jr Drew Dober vs Michael JohnsonĀ Gregory Rodrigues vs Brunno FerreiraĀ PARAMOUNT+ PRELIMSĀ Cody Garbrandt vs Xiao Long Donte Johnson vs Cody Brundage Alberto Montes vs Ricky Turcios Cody Durden vs Nyamjargal TumendemberelĀ Su Mudaerji vs Jesus AguilarĀ Rafael Tobias vs Diyar Nurgozhay Ā Luke Fernandez vs Rodolfo BellatoĀ Ā Yep. The rematch Iāve been banging on about forever is almost here! Buzzing for this. The card isnāt quite complete yet but the main event is obviously doing most of the heavy lifting. No idea what the co-main is gonna be or why theyāve left it so late. Thatās the UFC in 2026 for you! Was thinking a Joshua Van title defence against Kape or Taira but the clock is ticking on getting that done. And Iām not sure whether Renato Moicano is gonna stay on the card or not now the Brian Ortega rematch is off. There was talk of Esteban Ribovics stepping in but Moicanoās gone quiet. Whatever. Iāll update this post as the card takes shape and reaches its final form. Ā Ā Max Holloway vs Charles Oliveira 2 is on! Fucking FINALLY! And sod it, this is absolutelyĀ ***WANDāS ONE TO WATCH***Ā on this bad boy. I donāt think Iāve ever had a main event as my one to watch but I donāt care.Ā A rematch over a decade in the making and now itās finally almost upon us. Anyone whoās even stumbled across my posts on here over the last few years is probably sick of me waffling on about wanting to see this fight. Well I can finally shut up about it soon. Weāre just weeks away now. Needless to say, I canāt wait. Theyāve been two of the most consistently exciting fighters to watch in the sport for years now and also two of the most popular and beloved fighters in the game. Itās babyface vs babyface all the way this one. Iām sure if you do enough digging you can find some sad sack of misery whoās finding ways to hate these two but theyāre both probably about as close as itās possible to get in MMA to being universally loved. The sport will be a much poorer place when these two are gone, so Iām just thankful that weāre getting to see them throw down before that day comes. They crossed paths way back in August 2015, as the main event of a Fight Night card in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada of all places. Iām sure many on this board will only know of that place because it was the site of Bret Hart winning his first WWF title back in 1992. Throwing a Hawaiian against a Brazilian out there in Saskatoon was proper random but they were doing Fight Night shows all over the place at that time. Better days before the Apex came along. Anyway, I remember being hyped for the fight going in. Even back then, they werenāt in any title mix yet but theyād both already established themselves as entertaining young fighters on the rise who were always worth tuning in for. Sadly the fight ended in anti-climax⦠At justĀ 1:39Ā of the first round, the fight was over due to an apparent injury to Oliveira. I was gutted back then. If youād told me at that point that weād have to wait another 10-11 years to see them rematch Iād have been distraught! But they went on different paths after that. Holloway went from strength to strength and went on a winning streak that ultimately led to him becoming Featherweight champion in 2017. But Oliveira had a shaky few years of inconsistency, weight misses, some bad losses and gained a reputation, rightly or wrongly, for being a āquitterā. I hate that talk and it seems mad now that Charles was labelled that way, knowing what he went on to do. But that was the knock on him back then. That heād crumble and ālook for a way outā if things got too rough in there. That loss to Holloway was actually used by people for years as part of that āquitterā narrative against Oliveira. It was kind of a strange ending to the fight and there were conflicting reports at the time about what exactly the injury was. Some were saying it was a neck or shoulder injury, others were reporting it as a āmicro-tear in his oesophagusā. Charles himself later said it was a minor neck injury stemming from previously hurting it in camp. Itās came up again recently though when rumblings of this rematch started popping up last year. And Max apparently isnāt buying it⦠āI heard Oliveira was yapping, saying that he had an injury when we fought. Last time I checked, when they did a follow up and they wanted to find out what the injury was, there was no injury report on it. They said he was fine so I have no idea what the hell heās talking about.ā - Max Holloway This took me by surprise a bit, to be honest. Like I said, I wanted to see the rematch from the second the first fight ended but with two of the nicest and classiest guys in the sport, the last thing I expected was any kind of beef or shit talking from either side. I donāt think thereās any real bad blood there, but even Max just talking like that feels out of character. He never really trash talks anyone and heās not the type who creates fake animosity just to build a fight. If heās saying this stuff, itās because he believes itās true. On the other side, while Oliveira did have a few weird performances and losses back then, I donāt buy for a second that he was faking the injury either. Fuck knows? Something of nothing really but it definitely felt like there was unfinished business after the fight ended. Itās taken so long Iād almost given up on the idea of us ever seeing a rematch but here we are. Hollowayās had a hell of a career since that night in Saskatoon. He followed that fight with wins over Jeremy Stephens, Ricardo Lamas and Anthony Pettis before finally getting his opportunity at UFC gold and dethroning the great Jose Aldo in back-to-back fights, both by stoppage. By 2017 heād fully arrived. Unfortunately for him, Alexander Volkanovski had came along at the same time and he turned out to be Hollowayās kryptonite. Max went 0-3 against Volk between 2019-22. And it wasnāt like Max was on the decline. He had stellar performances over the likes of Brian Ortega, Frankie Edgar, Calvin Kattar and Yair Rodriguez in between those Volk losses. Volk is just that good. If not for him, Max likely wouldāve dominated 145 for a good few years. In more recent years, Hollowayās been mostly out of the title picture but heās still been delivering big time in the cage. The win over Arnold Allen in 2023 doesnāt jump off the page now when you look at his record but at the time I remember there was a sense that Max might be slowing down and a lot of people fancied Allen to win. Max wasnāt having it. Then he sent the Korean Zombie into a retirement with a rare one punch KO in Singapore. Then came UFC 300⦠Itās gonna get brought up until the end of time whenever MMA fans talk about Max Holloway but that BMF title win over Justin Gaethje was absolutely bonkers. Insane. Maybe THE greatest knockout in UFC history right there.Ā At 4:59Ā of the last round, he scored the most ridiculous faceplant KO ever against a fellow nutcase warrior in Gaethje. It was already a great performance from Holloway and he was well on his way to a clear decision win anyway. He didnāt have to put himself at risk by going all out for the KO but he did and that was the result. A legitimately legendary moment in MMA history. And in a funny way it actually kind of gave the silly BMF belt some credibility. Itās a gimmick belt but it felt like Max somehow elevated it to mean something a bit more that night. The fact that it was up at Lightweight and about 85% of the media and fans were talking before the fight as if he was a lamb to the slaughter and out of his depth at 155 made it even more of a badass move. Realistically, they shouldāve just retired that BMF belt there and then. Just let Max keep the thing. Nobodyās ever topping that Gaethje KO are they? It peaked and itās all downhill from there. Of course, Max went back down to Featherweight after that win for a crack at the proper belt. Trying to regain what Volk had taken away from him in their one-sided trilogy. This time it wouldnāt be against Volk though. Ilia Topuria was the new King Of 145. Iām a little bit hazy now but I actually remember Max doing alright early on against Topuria. We know how it ended though. Topuria chinned him in the second round and that was that. I was happy to hear Max confirm after that loss that heād be moving up to 155 permanently. At 34 years old, why keep cutting that weight? And heād already reached the pinnacle at 145 years ago. There wasnāt a lot left for him there. It felt like the right time to sack that off and make a fresh start up a division. In July, he was back at Lightweight and successfully defended his BMF belt (I believe heās the first to do that) against a retiring Dustin Poirier in another fun fight. And being 0-2 down against Poirier going in, it mustāve been sweet for him to finally get a win back against him. Oliveira had more difficult times after that injury against Holloway in 2015. He didnāt actually turn his career around for another couple of years. Itās mad to think back to that time and newer fans probably donāt even realise it but Charles was really struggling for a while there. After the anti-climax against Max, he bounced back with a submission win over Myles Jury but missed weight in the process. Then he got submitted by Pettis and Lamas in back-to-back fights (and missed weight again in theĀ Lamas fight). After the weight misses, he finally moved up to Lightweight in 2017 and subbed Will Brooks. But then he got battered to a TKO loss by Paul Felder at the end of that year. Youād have been forgiven around this time for thinking Oliveira was never gonna amount to anything. He clearly had skills, but there always seemed to be something with him. Felt like heād never put it all together. Then 2018 arrived and, whether it was a New Yearās resolution or what, something seemed to click for Charles and he went on a tear. Over the next two years he rattled off seven straight wins, all finishes. Included in that streak were wins over Clay Guida, Jim Miller (avenging his previous loss to Miller in 2010), Jared Gordon and Kevin Lee. At the end of 2020 he got his break against a top name and beat Tony Ferguson on points. Then a bit of good luck fell in his lap when Khabib retired and vacated the belt. Oliveira was matched up with Michael Chandler in May 2021 and knocked him out to win the vacant title. Amazing. Youād never have called it back in 2017. He genuinely seemed like he might be one bad loss or one more weight miss away from the UFC cutting ties with him at points. I think a lot of newer fans love him anyway just because heās fun to watch. But they got into it when he was already on top and had overcame his issues. They probably donāt even fully realise why the āold headsā love him so much. Thereās something about fighters like Oliveira, who go through serious slumps in their career and might even look like a lost cause at times. When they turn things around and come out the other side of that, and have the unlikely rise to the top, thereās nothing quite like it. Thereās been a few examples over the years. Robbie Lawler coming from being written off in the dying days of Strikeforce and being given another chance in the UFC, almost out of courtesy, to then go on his career best run and win the title is another. But yeah, seeing Charles with that UFC belt was magic. There arenāt many UFC wins/moments that made me happier. From there he had a short but wildly entertaining title reign with wins over Poirier and Gaethje, before getting chewed up by the Makhachev machine in late 2022. Kind of a parallel to Max at 145 in a way. Like I said, Max probably wouldāve had a long run as Featherweight champ if Volkanovski wasnāt around. It mightāve been a similar thing at Lightweight with Charles but, unfortunately for him, he became champ just in time for Islam Makhachev to arrive as one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the sport. Itās been a mixed bag for Oliveira since. Heās gone W, L, W, L, W since the Makhachev loss. Wrecked Beneil Dariush, lost a split decision against Arman Tsarukyan, beat Chandler in their rematch but somehow went five rounds, got ironed out by Topuria, then in his last fight he submitted Mateusz Gamrot in front of a rabid home crowd in Rio, Brazil. Crazy scenes. And actually was probably his best performance in years. He was originally supposed to face Rafael Fiziev that night but Fiziev dropped out. When it got switched to Gamrot, with Charles going from preparing for a striker to a wrestler, I wasnāt sure if that was good or bad news for Charles. It felt like it had real banana skin potential to me but Charles ended up schooling him and submitting him in the second round. In hindsight, coming off a bad KO loss against Topuria, facing a grappler in Gamrot was probably exactly what Charles needed. It was great to see him back in the win column and, for me, even better than that was it cleared the way to possibly, maybe, finally, getting that Holloway rematch on. The talk had already started increasing a bit after Holloway beat Poirier in the summer. But Holloway injured his hand in that fight and that shelved him for the rest of 2025. After Oliveira beat Gamrot though, there didnāt seem to be any more obstacles in the way. Max was saying heād be cleared to fight in early 2026, fans and media were talking about it more and more, the buzz around the rematch potentially happening was starting to pick up steam. For a brief moment, there was a fair bit of talk that Max and Charles should rematch on the White House card. Oliveira was even pushing for that after the Gamrot win. I hated that idea. For one, I donāt want this fight bogged down with all the political bollocks and the image of Trumpās orange face looming cageside. But also, that card isnāt until fucking June. Who wants to wait all that time? Not me. Iāve already been waiting since 2015, FFS! Max didnāt like the idea either and thankfully that talk fizzled out. Then in early December, the UFC finally put me out of my misery. It was announced. Confirmed. Signed. Officially official. And, wellā¦Iām erect.Ā Itās actually mind boggling that itās taken this long for these two to circle back around and come face to face again, isnāt it? But I guess they were in different weight classes for a lot of the last decade. Oliveira moved up to Lightweight a couple of years after their first fight and Holloway was in the the thick of establishing Featherweight greatness by then. Better late than never. And to be honest, itās probably a better fight now theyāre both in that legend bracket anyway. Itās certainly a bigger fight now. āWe have history. Thereās not too many people right now that others are considering BMFs, and on that very short list, Charles Oliveira is one of them. My coaches are probably going to kill me when they see this and hear me saying - a BMF thing to do in this fight would be to submit the submission artist. Never say never. If your boy throws up some submissions here and there and I get one, whoās to say what happens? Thatās a pretty BMF moment to go submit a submission artist.ā āThe goal never changes. From my first fight to now, I want that undisputed belt. Thatās all I want. I had it for a while at Featherweight, now weāre at Lightweight and I feel good, I feel strong, fast. I have a bunch of fun fights lined up in front of me too. All I gotta do is go out there and get my hand raised.ā - Max Holloway What do we make of that? Is Max bluffing about trying to sub Oliveira? Or is he crazy enough to go for it? Iām kind of leaning towards the latter. Itās not like heās not capable of pulling off subs but itās not exactly his bread and butter. I donāt see him catching Charles but who the fuck knows with Max? I wouldnāt have predicted heād one-punch Gaethje with a buzzer beater KO either. I wouldnāt dismiss the possibility but itās not likely is it? And on the flip side, Charles is saying similar stuff, hinting that heās gonna accept Hollowayās challenge if he does the old āpoint down, throw downā bit Gaethje fell victim to⦠āIf itās time to trade, Iāll trade. If itās time to take it to the ground, Iāll do that. The fight starts standing and I trust my Boxing and my Muay Thai. If he calls me forward, Iāll stand right in front of him. Letās see who has more firepower. Iām ready.ā āBoth of us have evolved a lot. Holloway is the BMF champion and, not long ago, he was champion in the division below. Heās grown massively and deserves to be among the best in the world. Right now, my full focus is on the Lightweight belt. If I win the BMF title, Iād defend it, but my main goal is the divisionās main title.ā - Charles Oliveira Both seem to be in the same frame of mind going into this fight. And clearly, even they see the BMF thing is nothing more than a trinket. Theyāre both already eyeing the proper belt. But the other stuff, Max talking about subbing Charles, Charles talking about standing in front of Max, I get that they could be just saying stuff to give each other something to think about. But I donāt know. This really feels like a fight where anything could happen. Everything is on the table here. Would it really shock anyone if Max actually tried to guillotine choke Charles? It definitely wonāt shock me if Charles decides to just stand and trade and test chins with Max. How does this one go then? I canāt even picture this in my head. Maybe by fight week Iāll have a better read on it and a feeling on who will win. But right now, I donāt have a bastard clue whatās gonna happen. Theyāre both great offensively, both have some vulnerabilities defensively but theyāve both got that little bit of craziness about them where I canāt rule anything out. And itās not even like we can look back at the first fight for insight on how the rematch might go because 1) it was donkeys years ago and both are different fighters in 2026, 2) itās a different weight class and 3) the fight was so short and ended in such a way that thereās not much you couldāve got a read on from the first fight, even if they had immediately rematched back then. Part of me thinks that Oliveira being the naturally bigger guy and more settled in at 155 might give him the edge. I think heās probably got the heavier hands as well. But then I think Max is the better actual boxer and heās looked refreshed since moving up in weight. Heās never been known as a massive puncher (Gaethje KO aside) but I think thereās some evidence there that heās got a bit more pop in his punches up at 155. The Gaethje knockout obviously showed that but he was also hurting Poirier last time out in a way that he was never able to do in their first two fights. I also feel like Charles might be slightly further along the road to decline than Max is. But then Charles has the edge in submissions as well. I donāt know. I just donāt know. I canāt fucking wait though. Finally! Ā Caio Borralho vs Reinier De Ridder is a solid Middleweight fight. Important one for both. Itās not like itās a strict āmust winā, the loser isnāt gonna be on the chopping block or anything. But itās one of those fights where youāve got two guys who were getting very close to title contention, lost a crucial fight and are now having to rebuild. Borralhoās ranked #7, De Ridderās ranked #8. So theyāre still in the race. But this fight is one neither can afford to lose. One guyās gonna get back on track, the other is gonna fall further behind. Brazilās Borralho just turned 33 years old and has a record of 17-2-0-1 with 9 finishes. A member of the Fighting Nerds team. He was on quite a winning streak until his last fight. He lost his second pro fight all the way back in 2015, then went on a 17 fight unbeaten run including notable UFC wins over Paul Craig and Jared Cannonier in 2024. He lost a decision to Nassourdine Imavov last time out though, in their Paris main event in September. Not really sure what to make of him. I remember him looking good in the Cannonier fight. That was the first time I felt like he might actually live up to his potential. But then he had a year long layoff and Imavov outpointed him quite clearly. Iām not sure how much of that was down to the time on the shelf and how much was just Imavov being better. Borralhoās not bad but, at 33, heās probably not getting any better than he is now so he mightāve already maxed out his potential. As for De Ridder⦠He had some real buzz around him when he signed with the UFC in late 2024, two-division champ in ONE FC etc. He made his Octagon debut in November 2024 and had already gone 4-0 in the UFC by July. Four wins in nine months! And that run consisted of wins over Gerald Meerschaert, Kevin Holland, Bo Nickal and Robert Whittaker. He subbed the first two and stopped Bo with a nasty knee to the body. Not to mention that was Boās first loss. De Ridder shut down Boās hype spectacularly. And of course, the decision win over Whittaker. A win over Whittaker in any fashion is big. By the summer, De Ridder found himself ranked #4 and the feeling was he was probably one win away from challenging for the title. He was signed to fight Anthony Hernandez as the headliner of the Vancouver card in October and I think everyone felt like the winner of that would be next in line for a title shot against the winner of the upcoming DDP vs Khamzat title fight in August. Nope. Everything went tits up. Hernandez pulled out of the fight and Brendan Allen was put in as the replacement. On paper, an easier opponent than Hernandez but a late switch all the same. It all went wrong for De Ridder though. He started well but faded rapidly, Allen took over and De Ridder just seemed to be drowning more and more as the fight went on. It ended up being stopped between the fourth and fifth rounds, with De Ridder unable to come out for the last round. Or āquitting on the stoolā as many called it. I felt like a lot of the criticism was harsh but it was a really flat and disappointing way for the fight, and De Ridderās win streak, to come to an end. He did actually have a fight in ONE against Anatoly Malykhin which ended in similar fashion, so the āquitterā stigma is probably gonna follow him now. But I canāt help thinking a lot of this particular loss was due to burnout. Fighting five times in less than a year is ridiculous. Not just the fights but the endless training camps and consecutive weight cuts canāt be good for you. Thereās a limit to what the body can take. And that goes for everyone. Fuck, even cardio machine Merab probably regrets squeezing that Petr Yan fight in last year when heād already defended his title three times in 2025. Against low level opposition you can get away with fighting a bunch of times in a year. At the top level though, itās not a good idea. Burnout is real. Thereās no other logical explanation to me why De Ridder wouldāve just fallen apart so quickly against a so-so, middle of the pack 185er like Allen. Heād just beat Whittaker and had to gut through some bad moments in that fight, yet he couldnāt deal with adversity against Allen? There has to be more to that and I think that insane schedule and all the back-to-back training camps and fights probably were a big factor. Iād like to see him beat Borralho here but Iām not confident either way on this one. Ā Rob Font vs Raul Rosas Jr could be fun. These two were actually supposed to fight on the Noche card in September but an injury took Rosas out. Font ended up facing David Martinez that night and lost on points. Fontās got to be on his last legs at this point. Heās 38 years old now, which is pretty much a senior citizen as a fighter but especially in the lighter weight classs. A Bantamweight whoās pushing 40 is basically an OAP in fighter terms. In fairness to Font though, he beat Kyler Phillips and Jean Matsumoto before that Martinez loss. So thereās fight in the old dog still. Those wins proved he can still give some of the young guys a run for their money. Rosas is the opposite end of the spectrum as far as age goes. Heās still only 21 years old, despite being on the roster since 2022. Heās 11-1 with the only loss coming by decision against Christian Rodriguez in 2023. Heās won four fights since then but will have been inactive for just shy of a year by the time he steps into the Octagon here. Kind of an interesting old guard vs new breed battle. And despite me talking like Fontās a relic, I could be wrong but I feel like this might be a step up that young Raul isnāt ready for. Weāll see but I think Fontās still got enough about him to derail these youngsters unless theyāre actually a legitimately solid prospect. And Iām not sure Rosas is just yet. Should be an enjoyable fight regardless. Ā Drew Dober vs Michael Johnson has been added to the card just a couple of weeks before show time. Itās a fun fight on paper but Iām not sure how much actual prep time these guys have had so we might not be getting the best out of this one. Itās happening more and more now though so I guess we just have to get used to fights just being thrown together at the last minute. Should be entertaining enough though. Both are veterans at this point and both have fan friendly styles. Doberās 37 years old now, 28-15-0-1 with 21 finishes and heās coming off a late TKO stoppage win over Kyle Prepolec on the Vancouver card in October. Not without controversy though, the finish came right after a bad kick to the balls that Prepolec clearly never recovered from. But it was a much needed win for Dober, snapping a three fight losing streak. Johnson was supposed to fight Alexander Hernandez at UFC 324 in January but the fight got pulled the day of the show due to āsuspicious betting line movementā. Donāt know what happened but Iād say the fact Johnson is booked again so soon indicates the dodginess wasnāt on his end. I say it every time with Johnson but heās had one of the strangest UFC runs ever when you look back through his record. Wins over Dustin Poirier, Tony Ferguson and Edson Barboza but has somehow ended up with a 24-19 record and losses to a bunch of way inferior fighters to that lot. Heās kept plugging away though and, right now, heās actually on an unexpected three fight winning streak. Itās alright, this fight. Does look out of place on the main card of a numbered event in 2026 to me though.Ā Ā Gregory Rodrigues vs Brunno Ferreira 2 then. Another rematch. This was supposed to be Ferreira against Paulo Costa but, surprise surprise, Costa pulled out. āRobocopā Greg stepped in and here we are. Actually think I like this better anyway, to be honest. You know with their styles itās probably gonna be a slugfest. The first one was short and sweet⦠They fought at UFC 283 back in January 2023. It was actually Ferreiraās UFC debut and, the funny thing is, heād stepped in on short notice after Rodriguesā original opponent dropped out. Now the roles are reversed and itās Rodrigues filling in. Anyway yeah, Ferreira ended up scoring the knockout late in the first round. I barely remember anything else about it so I might revisit it for this thread. Theyāve both had mixed results since. Rodrigues has done pretty well for himself, going 5-1 with the only loss being to Jared Cannonier in a dogfight last February. He rebounded with a horrific KO win over Jack Hermansson in June then beat Roman Kopylov on points at MSG in November. Ferreiraās gone 5-2 and is coming off a decision win over Marvin Vettori at UFC 323 in December. Yeah, I like this rematch. A chance at redemption for Rodrigues. Fair play to Ferreira for accepting the replacement as well despite already being 1-0. Ā Cody Garbrandt vs Xiao Long. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Garbrandtās getting to that point now where itās feeling a bit like Renan Barao at the end. Heās not that washed up but just in terms of going from being champion to a āwhere is he now?ā propping up the prelims. Itād be hard to even remember he was ever champ if it wasnāt for the fact people on social media keep furiously bumming his title winning performance in the Dominick Cruz fight. That fight will be a ten years old in December and there are fans out there who still seem to believe that version of Cody Garbrandt will come back one day. But at 34 years old, I think itās clear heās done as any kind of top level fighter. Heās 14-7 now, has gone 2-4 in his last six and heās coming into this fight off back-to-back losses. On paper this is a step down but Iām still not sure he wins. Thatās where weāre at with Cody now. Chinaās Xiao Long is 27 years old with a record of 27-10, 14 coming inside the distance. Heās 1-2 in the UFC so far and Iām not gonna pretend Iām familiar with him. Think Iāve seen a couple of his fights but nothing is jumping out in my memory. Itās pretty obvious this is the matchmakers trying to throw Cody a bone but if he loses a fight like this, man, I donāt know what you do with him. That might well be it for him. Ā Donte Johnson vs Cody Brundage. Another card change. This was originally Johnson against Dusko Todorovic but thatās off. Shitarse Brundage steps in. Smashing. Johnsonās 27 and undefeatedĀ at 7-0Ā with a 100% finish rate. Hasnāt beat anyone of note yet but did submit woman beating scumbag Sedriques Dumas in his UFC debut in November. Good stuff. Although I remember he was kind of defending Dumas after the fight for some reason, as if the shit he gets from media and fans is harsh or something. āI guarantee you thatās a good man. I think people should just get off his back. Weāre all sinners.ā Imagine saying that about a cunt with multiple arrests for domestic violence? Yeah, bollocks to that. Wouldnāt mind seeing him bash up Brundage here though. Him going on a bit of a tour of battering some of these ham and egger dickheads wouldnāt upset me. Brundage is 11-8-1-1, has lost his last two in a row and is coming in fresh off getting stopped by Cam Rowston on the Sydney card a few weeks ago. Ā Alberto Montes vs Ricky Turcios is another fight thatās been chucked on the card late in the day. Turcios was all set to fight Cameron Smotherman at UFC 324 back in January but you might remember Smotherman had an awful weight cut and actually faceplanted on the stage at the weigh in after stepping off the scale. Obviously the fight got binned immediately. Turcios won TUF back in 2021 but heās had mixed results since. Heās 32 now with a record of 12-5. Not much of a finisher but generally pretty entertaining from what Iāve seen/can remember of him. Really needs a win now though. Heās gone 1-3 in his last four and is coming off back-to-back losses against Raul Rosas Jr and Benardo Sopaj. Montes is making his first Octagon appearance. Heās Venezuelan, 31 years old and 11-1 with seven finishes. Heās won his last three fights by submission, including his anaconda choke finish on DWCS in October. Ā Cody Durden vs Nyamjargal Tumendemberel. Donāt know. Durdenās a prick but I canāt deny Iāve enjoyed some of his fights. In particular, he had an absolute corker against Jake Hadley a couple of years ago that went under a lot of radars. If you never saw it and have 15 minutes to kill, Iād recommend it. Heās floundering lately though. Heās gone 1-5 in his last six fights, lost his last three in a row and was finished in his last two. Nyamjargal Tumendemberel is a piss take of a name. Bloke needs a snappy nickname sharpish. Apparently his actual nickname is āArt Of Knockoutā, which is funny because out of his nine wins heās only ended two by KO/TKO. Anyway, heās Mongolian, 27 years old and 9-1 with eight finishes. Havenāt seen him fight yet but heās coming off a first round submission win on Road To UFC back in August. Ā Su Mudaerji vs Jesus Aguilar is alright. Has potential to be a bit of a banger but I donāt know anymore. Su Mudaerji had that incredible bloodbath war with Matt Schnell a few years ago and that went a long way with me. Thereās only so long he can dine out on that though and the truth is he hasnāt been much fun to watch since really. Heās 18-7 now and coming off a couple of decisions over Mitch Raposo and Kevin Borjas. Aguilar is 12-3 with eight finishes. He got fed to Tatsuro Taira in his UFC debut in early 2023 and bounced back with a stunning 17 second one punch knockout over Shannon Ross at UFC 290. Pretty forgettable 3-1 run since then though. I donāt know. The ingredients are there for a fun scrap but Iām not confident it plays out that way. Ā Rafael Tobias vs Diyar Nurgozhay might be worth checking out. Brazilās Tobias is only 22 years old and has a 14-1 record with 11 of his wins not requiring the judges. Heās on a six fight winning streak and scored a first round submission on DWCS last time out in September. Interesting nickname as well⦠Nurgozhay is from Kazakhstan, a somewhat weathered looking 28 years old and heās 10-2 with 8 finishes. He won via headkick on DWCS in late 2024 but heās gone 0-2 so far in the UFC, getting subbed twice by Brendson Ribeiro and Uran Satybaldiev. Seems like a fight clearly designed for Tobias to have a bit of a showcase debut. You never know but on paper it looks like thatās the way this is going. Ā Luke Fernandez vs Rodolfo Bellato. Not a clue on this one. Never seen this Fernandez fella fight before. Looking him up, heās 30 years old, unbeatenĀ at 6-0Ā with five by KO/TKO and heās coming in fresh off a 15 second knockout victory on DWCS in October. Not a bad way to enter the UFC. Bellatoās 29 with a record of 12-3-1-1 and 11 finishes. Heās been all over the shop results-wise in the UFC. His last four fights sum it up. A win, a draw, a No Contest and a loss. Christ. Only needs a DQ and heās pretty much got the full house. The win over Ihor Potieria was a crazy back and forth wild srap. Well worth a watch if you never saw it. But yeah, heās been all over the place in his last few fights. Feels like theyāre trying to set him up to get chinned here but weāll see. Ā Ā MAX VS CHARLES 2!! Edited March 6 by wandshogun09 Quote
jimufctna24 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 It's amazing that Oliveira can be accurately seen as an underachiever prior to 2018 nowadays. Not that I would disagree, but prior to entering the UFC he was apparently seen as a bit of a joke on the Brazilian MMA circuit, despite sporting an unbeaten record. Therefore, a respectable 7 or 8 year UFC run actually exceeded the expectations thay many had for him. Of course, what he achieved post 2017 went far beyond even that.Ā Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 8 Author Paid Members Posted February 8 On 2/7/2026 at 1:23 AM, jimufctna24 said: It's amazing that Oliveira can be accurately seen as an underachiever prior to 2018 nowadays. Not that I would disagree, but prior to entering the UFC he was apparently seen as a bit of a joke on the Brazilian MMA circuit, despite sporting an unbeaten record. I think I remember you saying this before. For the record, I wasnāt saying he was an underachiever pre-2018 myself. I donāt think there were any big expectations for him from people watching at the time. Even his second fight in the UFC they had him against TUF winner Efrain Escudero and I think the UFC and most media and fans wouldāve still been looking at Escudero as the better prospect going into that fight. Pretty crazy with the benefit of hindsight. For me, from Oliveiraās UFC debut in 2010 to him finally putting it all together and turning the corner in 2018, I remember just seeing him as a fun to watch but very inconsistent, flawed and often vulnerable fighter. I liked him from the off though. Just never saw him as anything more than an exciting fighter to spice up the undercards for years until it became clear heād flipped a switch. While Iām here, not that I needed any help getting up for this fight but the official promo has got the juices flowing⦠Am I imagining it or did they stop doing these promos for a bit? Donāt feel like Iāve seen one like this for ages. Itās fights like this where I wish theyād bring back Primetime. A fight like this seems too good for a bog standard Countdown show.Ā Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 9 Paid Members Posted February 9 What's the story behind him being a joke on the Brazilian scene? Never heard that before Quote
jimufctna24 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 43 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: What's the story behind him being a joke on the Brazilian scene? Never heard that before When Oliveira first entered the UFC, his ability wasn't highly thought of in Brazil, or by those who had viewed his fights. It was therefore seen as a given that the likes of Escudero would beat him.Ā I recall his reputation being discussed on Sherdog Radio at the time.Ā Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 21 Author Paid Members Posted February 21 Updated the opening post. Seems that whatever they were planning for that TBA vs TBA co-main fell through because Marcel Dorffās got Borralho vs De Ridder in the co-main spot now. Think we all half expected that the later in the day it got. Theyāve randomly chucked a Drew Dober vs Michael Johnson fight onto the main card, which, I donāt hate at all as a fight but it doesnāt scream āmain cardā for a numbered event at this point, does it? Couple of other little changes and pullouts but nothing major. Iāve updated everything with the previews and stuff. Not a strong card at all but weāre two weeks away from Holloway vs Oliveira 2! Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted March 1 Author Paid Members Posted March 1 Officially fight week!Ā This gave me a chuckle. An old tweet of mine from 2014 (so before their first fight) which shows just how long Iāve been wanting to see Max vs Charles. And Max even responded to it.Ā State of that. 4:04am. Tagging them and Dana and all sorts in an attempt to somehow get something moving and make it happen. Trying to will it into existence. Then I finally get my wish in 2015 and it ends in crushing anti-climax. Only had to wait another 11 years but here we are.Ā Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted March 1 Author Paid Members Posted March 1 Yeah, I think he does a fair bit. Saw some guy earlier posted a video of his son whose birthday it was wishing Max luck and Max responded. I see Oliveira and Poirier interact with fans more than most as well. Unsurprising from those three, to be fair. Gotta be three of the soundest fighters on the roster over the last decade or so.Ā Quote
Dai Posted March 1 Posted March 1 You shoukd tag him again in that post from 2014 and see if he replies again, which would be pretty sweet.Ā Quote
jimufctna24 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 2 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: Officially fight week!Ā This gave me a chuckle. An old tweet of mine from 2014 (so before their first fight) which shows just how long Iāve been wanting to see Max vs Charles. And Max even responded to it.Ā State of that. 4:04am. Tagging them and Dana and all sorts in an attempt to somehow get something moving and make it happen. Trying to will it into existence. Then I finally get my wish in 2015 and it ends in crushing anti-climax. Only had to wait another 11 years but here we are.Ā I have a burner account on X. I follow a couple of MMA-centric accounts from it.Ā I didn't realise that you were IronMikey. I've seen you interact with Combat Chronicles (formerly Flea Man on boxing forums) a few times Ā Quote
Bruce85 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Itās not the best card but that main event more than makes up for it!Ā Ā With Dustin gone, itās going to be a very sad day for MMA when Max and Charles also hang up the gloves. Those 3 (plus Volk) have got to be some of the nicest, well loved fighters the UFC have ever had.Ā Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted March 2 Author Paid Members Posted March 2 18 hours ago, jimufctna24 said: I have a burner account on X. I follow a couple of MMA-centric accounts from it.Ā I didn't realise that you were IronMikey. I've seen you interact with Combat Chronicles (formerly Flea Man on boxing forums) a few times Yeah been mutuals with him for a few years now on there. He reads this forum from time to time, or at least he used to. He DMād me once asking if I was, well me, on here 𤣠heās a really good follow on Twitter. One of the few accounts that keep me sane on there these days along with Miguel Class, Slack and Caposa.Ā Quote
jimufctna24 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 18 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said: Yeah been mutuals with him for a few years now on there. He reads this forum from time to time, or at least he used to. He DMād me once asking if I was, well me, on here 𤣠heās a really good follow on Twitter. One of the few accounts that keep me sane on there these days along with Miguel Class, Slack and Caposa.Ā I've been a reader of Combat Chronicles's work for years from when he was Flea Man on boxing forums. He's incredibly knowledgeable about both boxing and MMA, and a better analyst than he gives himself credit for. He's bonkers, but very likeable. I follow Slack too and listen to his podcast. The other two dudes you mentioned are good follows from what I have seen too.Ā Ā Quote
NeverYield Posted March 2 Posted March 2 (edited) I remember FleaMan posting. Never knew he is combat chronicles though Edited March 2 by NeverYield Quote
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