David Mantell Posted March 19, 2025 Author Posted March 19, 2025 15 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: That would be this Tony Spitfire would it? Sounds like he would get them thrown off TV for been a racist. I was talked by friends out of the temptation to join in that thread of old anti All Star axe grinding. To get one thing out of the way, Tony was the Opponent. Not the MC responsible for the situation. who was a Butlins Redcoat. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/658475/Butlins-skegness-blasted-over-muslim-race-hate-wrestling-match To recap - There is a long tradition in Israeli Wrestling going back to the Rafael Halperin days in the 60s which continues to this day of Arabs as the heels against the Jewish babyfaces. (One of the victims of 7th October 2023 was an Israeli Arab heel- you may recall his friends wrote in to Jim Cornette's show) One such Israeli Arab heel (his name escapes me - Hakeem I think it was) was on tour for All Star doing his usual act. Tony Spitfire was minding his own business wrestling the guy. The Redcoat on the other hand took it upon himself to ask the audience to "boo the Muslim". There is nothing new about this sort of thing, I once saw a video of two Japanese guys on tour here having what would otherwise have been a great tag match against Deano and Kid Cool if not for a prat in a red coat marching up and down making predictable comments. Unfortunately some dad in the audience took it up with the tabloids who gleefully put the boot in. All Star took the rap for the Butlins employee's misdemeanors and lost the contract but got a replacement with Pontins. Hakeem kept his job but had to become a good guy Arab for All Star shows.
davertfnewman Posted March 19, 2025 Posted March 19, 2025 I honestly couldn't pick him out of a police lineup, but looks like he's associated with bad news at every turn for a quick Google. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3524318/Butlin-s-caught-race-hate-row-Islamic-wrestler.html
David Mantell Posted March 19, 2025 Author Posted March 19, 2025 19 minutes ago, theringmaster said: It always fascinates me how often Tony Spitfire gets mentioned on this forum. Never in a positive light. Probably some personal issue
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted March 19, 2025 Paid Members Posted March 19, 2025 4 minutes ago, David Mantell said: There is a long tradition in Israeli Wrestling going back to the Rafael Halperin days in the 60s which continues to this day of Arabs as the heels against the Jewish babyfaces. (One of the victims of 7th October 2023 was an Israeli Arab heel- you may recall his friends wrote in to Jim Cornette's show) There is no part of this that is defensible in this day and age.
David Mantell Posted March 19, 2025 Author Posted March 19, 2025 5 minutes ago, davertfnewman said: I honestly couldn't pick him out of a police lineup, but looks like he's associated with bad news at every turn for a quick Google. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3524318/Butlin-s-caught-race-hate-row-Islamic-wrestler.html Like I said, he was minding his own business wrestling Hakeem while the stupid Redcoat was mouthing off as they are wont to do.
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted March 19, 2025 Paid Members Posted March 19, 2025 (edited) You've covered the adjacent inadvertent racism but what about the arse thing? It's something we'd all like to get to the bottom of, pun very much intended. Edited March 19, 2025 by Lion_of_the_Midlands Dale Preston made me ask.
David Mantell Posted March 19, 2025 Author Posted March 19, 2025 1 minute ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: There is no part of this that is defensible in this day and age. All Middle Eastern territories including Rafael Halperin in Israel were about the big national hero versus foreign etc heels. Adnan Al Qaisinin Saddam's Iraq. The Mansour/Saade brothers in Lebanon. Mamdouh Farag in Egypt.
David Mantell Posted March 19, 2025 Author Posted March 19, 2025 1 minute ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: You've covered the adjacent inadvertent racism but what about the arse thing? You haven't provided the details. Was he wiping his bottom?
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted March 19, 2025 Paid Members Posted March 19, 2025 Just now, David Mantell said: You haven't provided the details. Was he wiping his bottom? The details are in the quote. They lost Haven because he shoved something up his arse.
Paid Members air_raid Posted March 19, 2025 Paid Members Posted March 19, 2025 55 minutes ago, davertfnewman said: It was that or have your opponent fuck up going up for a backbreaker and turn it into a Colonel DeBeers pancake piledriver. Rude loved a kneeling piledriver. The one he did to Warrior at SummerSlam 89 looked so brutal I nearly hold it responsible for Jim being the way he was in later years. Back on topic though - Rude was a rare ex-WWF wrestler on Worldwide that didnt make it look like a retirement home. I'll go to my grave thinking about Anvil in 93 and "Is he still going then? Why is he calling the Million $ Dream "The Anviliser", that sounds crap."
Chico Torres Posted March 19, 2025 Posted March 19, 2025 18 minutes ago, David Mantell said: I was talked by friends out of the temptation to join in that thread of old anti All Star axe grinding. To get one thing out of the way, Tony was the Opponent. Not the MC responsible for the situation. who was a Butlins Redcoat. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/658475/Butlins-skegness-blasted-over-muslim-race-hate-wrestling-match To recap - There is a long tradition in Israeli Wrestling going back to the Rafael Halperin days in the 60s which continues to this day of Arabs as the heels against the Jewish babyfaces. (One of the victims of 7th October 2023 was an Israeli Arab heel- you may recall his friends wrote in to Jim Cornette's show) One such Israeli Arab heel (his name escapes me - Hakeem I think it was) was on tour for All Star doing his usual act. Tony Spitfire was minding his own business wrestling the guy. The Redcoat on the other hand took it upon himself to ask the audience to "boo the Muslim". There is nothing new about this sort of thing, I once saw a video of two Japanese guys on tour here having what would otherwise have been a great tag match against Deano and Kid Cool if not for a prat in a red coat marching up and down making predictable comments. Unfortunately some dad in the audience took it up with the tabloids who gleefully put the boot in. All Star took the rap for the Butlins employee's misdemeanors and lost the contract but got a replacement with Pontins. Hakeem kept his job but had to become a good guy Arab for All Star shows. Don’t ever refer to them as “Israeli Arabs”.
David Mantell Posted March 19, 2025 Author Posted March 19, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chico Torres said: Don’t ever refer to them as “Israeli Arabs”. My sister could introduce you to plenty of Israeli Arabs who want NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with "Palestinians" least of all being called that. but that's a different story. ( in brief: my entire family lives out there, my sister made aaliyah 21 years ago, married an Israeli, they have four kids and a dog, Dad and Mum moved out there to be with the grandkids 3 years ago, I've got a visit booked for June/July). Edited March 19, 2025 by David Mantell
David Mantell Posted March 19, 2025 Author Posted March 19, 2025 12 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: The details are in the quote. They lost Haven because he shoved something up his arse. You haven't said what. Loo roll?
Chico Torres Posted March 19, 2025 Posted March 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, David Mantell said: My sister could introduce you to plenty of Israeli Arabs who want NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with "Palestinians" least of all being called that. but that's a different story. ( in brief: my entire family lives out there, my sister made aaliyah 21 years ago, married an Israeli, they have four kids and a dog, Dad and Mum moved out there to be with the grandkids 3 years ago, I've got a visit booked for June/July). And you used “Palestinians” in quotes. Dont associate the name of a genoicdal colony with the people who are being ethnically cleansed. And fuck off.
David Mantell Posted March 19, 2025 Author Posted March 19, 2025 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Chico Torres said: And you used “Palestinians” in quotes. Dont associate the name of a genoicdal colony with the people who are being ethnically cleansed. And fuck off. Hamas killed quite a few proud patriotic self declared Israeli Arabs that day apart from the wrestler mentioned on Corny's show. And plenty of proud self proclaimed Israeli Arabs fought alongside my brother in law (including in his actual squad) sorting Hamas out. But to get back on topic, it was the stupid Redcoat who said all the things about Muslims. Tony Spitfire was minding his own business wrestling Hakeem. Edited March 19, 2025 by David Mantell
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