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Cruz himself raised a great point. He's said that despite being talked about as one of the p4p best, Dillashaw only holds 2 wins against fighters against fighters in the current top 15 (both Barao), and he thinks that's down to the fact that Cruz and Dillashaw are just the worst possible matchup for Renan (Cruz also claims TJ copies his striking style). Usually i'd put this down to fight hype and mind games but i always hear about how Cruz is the amongst the best fighters in the sport at breaking down and analysing fights so i'm leaning towards him having TJ's number.

 

TJ post-Bang may (and likely) be able to beat the majority of the top 15 however, he's just been tied up with Barao for so long. It's crazy that the undisputed king of the division hasn't beaten any of the other challengers. 135 is wide open.

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He's right. It's an interesting point. Dillashaw's whole rep as a top fighter (and he definitely is a top fighter) is built on the two wins over Renan Barao. The Barao wins were so huge because everyone knows what a badass Barao is/was. But if you take Barao away, Dillashaw's biggest/best career wins are...

 

Joe Soto

Mike Easton

Hugo Viana

Vaughan Lee

 

I mean, good wins but it's hardly pound-for-pound stuff. It's a massive drop off from Barao's level, that's for sure. And even the Soto win, Soto took that fight on 24 hours notice after the whole Barao passing out/weight cut drama thing. Not knocking TJ as he can only beat what's there and 135 isn't a very deep division. But facts are facts, without the Barao wins his record isn't that impressive. His loss to Assuncao was a bit of a dodgy decision if I recall it correctly. Then there's the TKO loss to Dodson. Looking at his record minus Barao, you can really see why he was seen as such a massive underdog going into that first Barao fight. There was no reason to think Dillashaw would give Barao so many problems.

 

He looked so good against Barao both times. He looked way improved. You can't discount him as one of the best fighters in the world. But it might just have been a styles thing with Barao. Maybe he's just Barao's problem opponent and had his number. Until we see Dillashaw tested by a Cruz, Faber, Assuncao again, maybe McDonald - I'd hesitate to call him one of the best pound-for-pound (although it's a retarded discussion anyway). We need to see how he looks against different opponents with various styles.

 

On the flipside though, you can pick apart anyone's record if you look hard enough and take the right angle. I mean, Dillashaw could argue that most of Cruz's top wins are over guys who were really flyweights. Aside from Faber, you look at Cruz's top wins during his best run at 135 - Mighty Mouse, Benavidez x2, Jorgensen, McCall - these are all flyweights now. I wouldn't agree with that criticism but just pointing out that you can try to diminish anyone's record if you really want to.

 

Whatever. I'm really looking forward to this fight. Even though people might be using the logic of 'well TJ has basically copied Cruz's style' that doesn't necessarily mean Cruz wins. Dillashaw has adopted a Cruz-like striking style but I'd say he's got more power than Cruz. He's fast, has great cardio, he's dangerous until the final bell (5th round KOs against Barao and Soto). Just because he's taken things from Cruz's style that doesn't mean Cruz can do everything better than TJ. It's a fascinating one. I just can't help thinking Cruz's layoffs are going to hinder him, especially in the later rounds, against a younger, more active and highly confident champion who's riding a wave of momentum. Cruz is one of the most intelligent fighters in the game, if anyone can pull it off it's probably him. But the Mizugaki win, awesome as it was, was too brief for me to base too much on going into this one.

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They've shuffled this card up. For the better. Pearson vs Trinaldo is opening the main card now. And best of all we're getting Felder vs Cruickshank on the FS1 prelims now. Yes. Fuck you Fight Pass.

 

Here's how the card looks now;

 

FOX SPORTS 1 MAIN CARD

TJ Dillashaw vs Dominick Cruz - Bantamweight Title

Anthony Pettis vs Eddie Alvarez

Travis Browne vs Matt Mitrione

Ross Pearson vs Francisco Trinaldo

 

FOX SPORTS 1 PRELIMS

Patrick Cote vs Ben Saunders

Mairbek Taisumov vs Chris Wade

Maximo Blanco vs TBA

Paul Felder vs Daron Cruickshank

 

FIGHT PASS PRELIMS

Tim Boetsch vs Ed Herman

Charles Rosa vs Jimy Hettes

Ilir Latifi vs Sean O'Connell

Patrick Williams vs Rob Font

Francimar Barroso vs Abdul-Kerim Edilov

Don't know what's going on with Maximo Blanco's fight. It's said TBA for ages now and we're rapidly approaching fight night. They're going to have to quickly get some scrub in or scratch it off the card completely.

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Anyone see the clip on last night's show of the little Dillashaw-Cruz head to head on Ultimate Insider?

 

For those that missed it;

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=ZTKNf-ftkDI

 

I assume that's just a teaser for a longer version, yeah? Dillashaw seemed a bit wound up to me. I'd like to see them do more stuff like this. We were saying recently that we'd like to see the UFC do their own regular ripoff of Sky's 'The Gloves Are Off' and this follows that same basic principle. Good stuff.

 

If they are going to do more of this type of thing in the future though, I think they should probably get someone bigger who can handle themselves in between the fighters. Imagine if you had Anik sitting between Jones and DC and it kicked off again? He'd be collateral damage in a suit. They need someone like Brian Stann in the middle.

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Can't believe I'm still the only vote for Dillashaw. I was sure when this fight was announced that it'd be seen as a neck and neck thing on here. The poll's 7-1 to Cruz at the minute.

 

All I can say is I hope you're all right!

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If they are going to do more of this type of thing in the future though, I think they should probably get someone bigger who can handle themselves in between the fighters. Imagine if you had Anik sitting between Jones and DC and it kicked off again? He'd be collateral damage in a suit. They need someone like Brian Stann in the middle.

What's Brian Stann gonna do in between Cormier and Jones?  He'd be ex-U.S. Marine Collateral Damage in a Suit. 

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Yeah but at least they probably respect him. Everyone in the UFC seems to love Stann the Man, don't they? Anik's like a QVC presenter. He'd just get swatted aside like a little dragonfly. Action Stann would pull out a grenade or some shit. I have faith in him.

 

Seriously, if it kicked off between Jones and Cormier, I don't think there's ANY one man I'd fancy to break them up. But at least get someone more physical than fucking Jon Anik. For his own safety if nothing else.

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Cruz comes across as a bit of a bully in that short video.

 

Can't say I agree Jag. Cruz is very articulate, and isn't threatening in the slightest. He questions Dillashaw's claims that he's going to knock him out, and all he asks Dillashaw is how will he do it? Dillashaw doesn't have an answer so does the same thing that Mendes did against Mcgregor when he couldn't win in a verbal confrontation and does the hand yapping gesture.

 

Cruz is basically too intelligent for Dillashaw and it clearly comes across that way. 

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Cruz is a mental bully. I don't think he ever comes off as the most likable of guys, i always favoured Faber during their feud. Quite interested to see what side of the fence Faber sits on for this one actually.

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Don't know what's going on with Maximo Blanco's fight. It's said TBA for ages now and we're rapidly approaching fight night. They're going to have to quickly get some scrub in or scratch it off the card completely.

 

according the UFC.com Blanco is fighting Dennis Bermudez.

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