Paid Members lambyUK Posted July 16, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 Pretty much echoing what Daz said, it was a good left hook from Mir, but fuck me was that fight sloppy. Both looked dreadful with Duffee swinging for the fences and Mir looking like he could barely move with that gut of his.  Credit where credit's due though, I didn't expect Mir to be willing to trade with Duffee and it paid off for him.  Unfortunately I haven't seen the co-main or Holm's fight yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted July 16, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 Well Holm's has kept her boring streak intact. Â Decent show - Ferguson looked impressive. Hard to finish Thomson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted July 16, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 Well Holm's has kept her boring streak intact.  Decent show - Ferguson looked impressive. Hard to finish Thomson.  From what I read the flack Holm is getting is unjust and according the Helwani she looked a lot better than her first outing. That said, that's not a hard thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanz25 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 The Jouban/Dwyer fight was superb really great fight. Didn't watch anything on this card other than that and the main event which was as others have already stated, good fun but very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METAL ON METAL Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Not an amazing event but a few good moments. Had the main event spoiled for me by UFC's UK facebook page. Scrappy as fuck, but surprised Mir got it. Â Co-main was cracking. Can't underestimate Thompson's toughness at all, he was eating some fierce elbows and his face looked like shit because of it. That 2nd round was probably one of the best rounds of fighting this year. Â Holm did look terrible and lacked any sort of pressure, her performance was just so bland. Anyone who was hoping she'd be the one to take the fight to Ronda at some point is going to be sorely disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 16, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 well, you doubt Frank Mir and that's what happens i guess  little to take from that main event really, i didn't expect it to go like that, form went out of the window and they threw down. It's probably best it ended when it did for Mir cause at that pace he was gonna be dead on his feet after 2 mins. Still, Mir nailed it post fight when he said you can't allow Duffy to bullrush you, he had to meet him head on. Frank Mir's career has been ridiculous, so many ups and downs  Dunno what to make of Duffee really, he looked shit but you can't gauge much from a fight fought like that...we never see him fight more than a minute or so. Physically though he doesn't look what he did pre-injury.  Few other things of note:* Alan Jouban is a guy to keep an eye on, he's due a breakout and is one of the more exciting fighters buried down the roster. Great to watch, excellent fight.  * Tony Ferguson beat the piss out of Josh Thomson. That's the kind of fight that i aint sure if Thomson comes back from, there's been retirement talk previously and that was the kind of beating where he maybe realises his time at the top is done? Tony Ferguson is a beast, he's the sleeper at 155lb for sure.  * Can't be hard on Holly Holm, i thought she looked great, it was a Jackson-esque performance though, it was safety first but Holm dominated. Im not sure if she's gonna need a finish to push her into Rousey territory but i think she poses legit threats to Rousey now.  Frank Mir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 I know this looks like revisionist shit but I honestly have never rated Duffee too much. He's big and hits hard but I've never thought he was that good really. I think people originally got carried away when he made his debut and won by KO in 7 seconds, and ever since then he had this rep as some badass prospect. But that KO was over Tim Hague who was never much cop himself. I think a lot of the hype on Duffee is wrapped up in how he looks. He just looks like he should be a world beater. I think some people get mesmerised by his look and think he's better than he actually is sometimes. But I've never been sold. It's why I was pretty much 50/50 on him vs 2015 Mir. Don't get me wrong, he's dangerous and pretty quick for his size. But he's never had much of a chin, has he? Mike Russow put him out cold with one of the weirdest knockouts ever, after taking Duffee's best shots for two rounds. Russow's not some imposing striker either. Â Mir's done well to rattle off two wins in a row at this stage of the game. Fair play to the fucking smug cunt. But I wouldn't read much into it as far as him being 'back' or whatever. His two wins are over Bigfoot - always been fairly inconsistent in durability, was coming off TRT and has also not looked right since the war with Mark Hunt (Hunt hasn't either, for that matter). And Duffee who's never beaten a top flight heavyweight (or really, even a mid-level one has he?), and has shown signs of a dodgy chin. Â Oh and I hate Frank Mir. I forget sometimes but seeing him win disgusts me. Prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 16, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 Nah, i still won't get on the comeback train. I expect to see him crash and burn in the next couple of fights, it is Frank Mir after all. Â As for Duffee? Guys always been a bit of an enigma, i think potential-wise the sky was the limit, he's had to so many issues outside of the cage though its hard to say what's left. His fights never really show us anything either, they always end so fast. Â Thoughts on Tony Ferguson wand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 Yeah Ferguson looked awesome. He's looked really good for a while now, hasn't he? He reminds me of a lightweight version of Carlos Condit in his fighting style. He's a terror everywhere the fight goes. Â He should get a big fight next. Like a title contender fight. Maybe do Ferguson vs Eddie Alvarez or something? I don't know where Ferguson's ranked currently (can't be bothered to check) but he's got to be up there in the discussion for title challengers for me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METAL ON METAL Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 He was ranked 11th before last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 Cheers. Definitely gets a top ten next then. The more I think about it the more I want to see him vs Alvarez. I think that could have a serious chance of being a FOTY contender. I'd like to see that headline a Fight Night as well, so we get five rounds out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I know this looks like revisionist shit but I honestly have never rated Duffee too much. He's big and hits hard but I've never thought he was that good really. Not really revisionist. No one has ever really rated Duffee as a potential top-tier HW. Sure, he had a few impressive wins, but they were not enough to get people really excited. There was always more questions than answers.  When he was preparing to fight Overeem in Japan, his own camp were saying on the record that he was going to get butchered. When your own people don't think you can win, it speaks volumes.  I caught the fight on YouTube this afternoon. I like Mir, but he is miles away from his 2008/2009 best.  On that form, if you put him in there with the likes of Stipe, JDS or even Arlovski, he would be lucky to last a round., even if he did fight more conservatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 Never heard that stuff about Duffee's camp for the Overeem fight. I just always got the impression people were pumping him up as some 'future of the division' type and I never saw it myself. Â As for Mir, I don't even know what they do with him now. Do they throw him in with Arlovski in a 'hey, it's 2004 again' fight? Or is Arlovski getting the next crack at Werdum? Â Personally, I'd feed Mir to Cain next. All the other top heavyweights have had a go battering Mir. It'd be a shame if Cain missed out on that pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 One of Duffee's camp relayed the information to one of the Sherdog journos.  I would go with either Gonzaga or Meathead. They are in Mir's range. Matching up Mir with Cain is just nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 Nasty maybe. But it'd be bloody well enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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