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Was hoping for some AEW Markets to be published....C’mon, this show is in Las Vegas.

Jericho and Lucha Bros are going over.

I was in the crowd. Wrestlers showed up and gave it all. Lots of respect. Lots of fun at the start. Undertaker was special.

Started off red-hot, but WWE shot themselves in the foot with the main event and the overproduction of RAW. The crowd was dead for many matches in the second half. Loud CM Punk and AEW chants followed at the end to voice displeasure. ‘This is bullshit and Change the channel’ heat, not only ‘RAW after Mania’ fun.

They simply killed us with the lightning setup and the gazillion overproduced, video packages between breaks. I guess I prefer House shows.

We couldn’t see shit as there were big lights aimed directly at the crowd. We were blinded the whole show. We chanted it multiple times. Production did nothing. 

Overall it was a fun show, despite being half-blind now.

Bobby Lashley was fantastic at RAW. Grown heaps since his "sister" interview. Insane,

Fun show. Good storytelling again in the matches. The NXT roster has real depth.

Sullivan vs Black was pretty solid. Good stuff. To bad about Lars’ rookie mistake. Misses happen to the best, but why the fuck did Lars sell it...Adrenaline I guess.....However, they rebounced with a brutal finish which popped the crowd bigtime.

Velveteen Dream vs Ricochet was my match of the night.

1 hour ago, Nostalgia Nonce said:

Wrong.

Unless you can prove conclusively that the parents and the promoter were complicit in this deliberate act, the fault lies entirely with the person that dumped him on his neck.

I deliberately didn't list the other wrestler to see if you'd pick them, but even though you did, you've now added the element that they were an Adult when this was not previously mentioned. As younger guys like Robbie X will tell you, sometimes 13 year olds wrestle 13 year olds.

The fault is always on the person that deliberately causes the harm.

To shift your answers to the BritPest situation, you're suggesting that the girl's parent's are equally to blame for Tom Russon sending pictures of his nob to her as they allowed her to contact him about training, or that Dan Edler shouldn't be held totally accountable because the girl's parents allowed her to be put into a situation where she could be raped. You're a cunt.

They are not equally to blame. Yes, the parents are victims aswell. However I would definately blame them for being ignorant to the dangers of this unregulated pro wrestling business. The promoters and building managers are also irresponsible by allowing a minor backstage and in that ring.

Grown ups wrestling kids in a match is pure child endangerment. 

Why is everyone acting like it's normal for kids to participate in pro wrestling matches. How can a 13 year old be classified as a "trained professional"?

Youth boxing is heavily regulated. Youth MMA is illegal. Yet,  nobody cares about the dangers of kids in independant pro wrestling. I hope this mess results in change and improvements to protect these young kids.

Why is smoking and drinking "unsafe" for kids, but getting beat up and thrown on year head not?

It's simply because these kids will work for free and.promoters have tons of kids who pay them to get in the business.

10 minutes ago, Nostalgia Nonce said:

 

 

So stop making excuses and answer the question. After all, you're happy for discussion.

Who's fault is it if a 13 year old is deliberately thrown on their neck during a match? Is it:
a) The 13 year old's, as he shouldn't be having matches at that age?
b) The parents of the 13 year old, for letting him have matches at that age?
c) The promoter/booker, for putting him in a match at that age?
d) All of the above?

I would say b and c +2. The parents, the promoter, the building manager AND the adult that was wrestling the 13 year old.

The 13 year old should not have been exposed to such dangers.

No excuses here. I gave the accused the benefit of the doubt last night.

After reading more about it now on the Britwres Crusader twitter, my opinion has changed. I completely agree with you guys as it now seems that the accused truly knew the girl was a minor.

Such a mess.

Cody/Kenny is slowly building. Great stuff. Reminds me of Hogan/Macho in the nWo days.

I see your point. Apologies if it looks that way. You can always bump the thread. 

Good noticing. Really digging the embed feature. Looking to get some more "wrestling" discussion going here. 

Apologies for posting wrestling related stuff on a wrestling forum. 

Road to WrestleMania starts tomorrow on RAW. Should be good.

Elias is starting to be one of the highlights every week.

Go read it. One of the biggest stars of he 90's.

Chris van Vliet always has great podcast interviews/shows:

Just watched a Vince documentary from 2001 (not produced by WWE)

Such a fun opening btw.

Really fun to catch up on some Steve Austin in WCW. Austin vs Sting, Austin vs Macho and even found Austin vs Scott Steiner.

Just random. The Green Ranger and Sting. The 90's revisited.