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2 hours ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

The criticism's not of The Fiend, rather that top babyface Seth Rollins is shrieking and cowering in fear at the mere sight of him.

If the top babyface stood there and giggled in the face of The Fiend, it'd look like a shit gimmick. 

34 minutes ago, Loki said:

I don't the criticism of this angle.  Everyone universally wants The Fiend to be portrayed as a big deal.  Nothing punctures the aura of a monster more than their opponent not giving a shit about them.  Rollins' horror at The Fiend is a major part of why he's looking so hot right now.

Who criticised the angle? Where are you getting that from? I don't read every single forum post but as far as I can tell, people are loving the angle/gimmick.

57 minutes ago, Cod Eye said:

I've not watched any of WWE's current output since 'Mania(ish), barring the Firefly Funhouse vignettes and The Fiend's debut.  Can someone please explain what is going on in that gif(I assume it's Bray Wyatt related with the lighting)?

Bray attacked Rollins, as 'The Fiend'. 

Hangman Page Vs PAC announced for Oct 2nd, as per Page's Twitter.

https://twitter.com/theAdamPage/status/1176897079945416704?s=19

I assume this is a PC game?

1 hour ago, Carbomb said:

One of the odder things about this is that Quildan is or used to be a ref himself (I haven't watched much BritWres recently, so don't know if he's still doing it), and I'm fairly sure he'd have objected to being treated in a similar manner, both in terms of the incident, and the professional and public reactions afterwards.

It just gets worse. That's unbelievable. 

4 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

The ref called the match with the right result. The only thing wrong was it wasn't the right finish. Sha's bodyslam was weak and while I don't agree with doing something without consent, he protects the ref. Bodom on the other hand is acting like he's had too many bottles of Hooch and a kebab on the way home from the pub. Absolute thuggery 

I'm not sure he does. I think he picks him up with the technique he knows, which at his level would be second nature to him. Sha is a big guy, and from the video, there's no way the ref isn't sandbagging. He clearly didn't want it to happen, Sha gave him no choice, and as already mentioned, there's about a split second between Sha getting in the ring (at which point the referee appears already on the defensive) and bodyslamming the ref. 

The footage being uploaded just makes the whole thing worse. So much for Andy Quildan respecting the referee and wanting to help. All he's done is used it to sell his on demand show. At this point, the whole thing is just an absolute shambles.

1 minute ago, big7thletter said:

Val Venis was extremely underrated in the ring, and given the right gimmick, would have been an excellent top level star. Probably not world champ, but up there

I completely agree with this. 

7 minutes ago, Accident Prone said:

Grand stuff, so Sha should've called the audible to make sure instead of just going ahead with it. "Are you okay to take a slam right now?" and the ref indicates yes or no.

Sorry for the double post, but absolutely. As said above, Jericho pushed Charles Robinson and made him aware of PAC being injured. If the message didn't get across, you think Jericho would have just bodyslammed him? How about back him into a corner, safely, and make your point? It's a little known fact that wrestlers are quite good at talking to each other in the ring, to let each other know what's going to happen. Sha could have made sure the ref was good to go, and it appears he didn't. That's not ok.

Whether he called it on the spot, had a 5 minute sit down and spoke about it before hand, or did it wildly with no communication, the fact remains that it was needless and pointless. It simply didn't need to happen. What did it add to the situation that helped or covered for the botched finish? Sha and Bodom come out looking like they can beat up a ref for no reason. If they were supposed to come out of the match looking strong, beating up the ref on a whim isn't the way to do it. There were two other perfectly qualified and probably more willing participants who could have been involved instead.

Or they needed to not fuck up, and then assault someone who wasn't at fault in any way.

Would have been nice if the promoter didn't lie about it too. 

25 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

You can’t work on the fly if the person doesn’t know they are expected to work on the fly. That for me is the main problem. This wasn’t a botched move, it was completely unplanned 

This. The fact is, the referee only did his job, in counting a pin. They could have worked on the fly with the other team, to get done whatever it was they were so angry about not having done, or whatever...

But you're missing a big point. The crowd aren't to know whether or not a 3 count is the planned finish (unless it was something with absolutely no chance of being a finish, like that leg sweep the flippy lads do), so there's literally no reason to involve the referee at all. 

2 hours ago, harlow2 said:

 Any word on how the TV is going to air in the UK 

Probably over digital signal.

But no, no official news. I've seen a graphic saying it'll air live on ITV4, and then later in the week at more reasonable times, but nothing from AEW or ITV

5 hours ago, The King of Old School said:

I'd say any fan that enters the ring is fair game for a beat down like that.

If that is being compared to the ref situation though then that really is bizarre.

Unfortunately, it doesn't quite work like that. Reasonable force, I think they call it. If a fan jumps in the ring, a person can do what they need to do to defend themselves but I don't think a beatdown is necessary.

9 hours ago, LWOLeN said:

Wrestling. Family Entertainment

How is this relevant? Being a fan jumping into a ring, starting with the wrestlers, and getting beaten for it is one thing (perhaps they could have handled it a little better), being involved in a scripted show and being assaulted for no reason is another. 

Because turning on the victim instead of realising that Samuels, Bodom and Quildan are the bad guys in this is easier, and that way they can still buy a ticket to see Okada and pals guilt-free? 

3 minutes ago, kidzero said:

Any word on when itv 4 will show it would it be Thursday or Friday night 9-11 pm slot

You're the one with the insider knowledge. You tell us

51 minutes ago, TildeGuy~! said:

Did you only just read the thread title?

A TV guide is currently listing the show as All Elite Wrestling : Dynamite.

He was copy and pasting news, without giving a source.

Has Andy Quildan responded to any of the controversy surrounding his comments? He uses the UKFF, right?

I'm confused. You had pictures of an underage trainee, screenshots proving sexual messages, and yet the police did nothing? Care to share your side of what happened with the police? (Not the bit before, I think that's all been shared already).

Also, let's not let Edler distract from the fact that Quildan is a shady bastard.

Just had a message from a friend asking if I wanted to go to a RevPro show soon. We used to do York Hall and Cockpit shows regularly. 

Told him about all this, and how Andy Quildan has come across during all of it, and we're going to take our money elsewhere. Hopefully others will do the same. 

They likely won't, because as people said, as soon as they book Okada etc, people won't care, but I think giving any money to Andy Quildan at this point is just a little bit morally wrong.

I was just watching the Fighting With My Family channel 4 documentary. I'm not too clued up with British wrestling nowadays. 

Is Zac still going? 

Jazz and Roddy Piper's daughter Teal have also been announced for the Casino Battle Royale.

Should be interesting to see who else they add to it. Jazz and Ivelisse are very good additions, but I'm skeptical about Teal Piper. Anyone know anything of her? Her training?
 

3 hours ago, LaGoosh said:

Ivelisse announced for the womans battle royale. She's fucking great and a really welcome addition to the roster. They need a few more of the overlooked Lucha Underground talent on the roster for sure. Marty Martinez and Mil Muertes in particular. 

Marty would be a solid hire. I'm not sure about Muertes, but he would be a good big-guy addition. He's not too tall though, right? 

My friend was number 71000 in the queue. With that level of demand, these guys could easily sell out a reasonably sized stadium.

That's Goldberg collapsing after the match