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  1. I would like that, but only if they put the work in to make the match seem important. The actual Survivor Series matches have largely felt like an afterthought at that PPV for years, particularly with all the brand supremacy nonsense they've used to promote it - I don't want to see the reason for The Undertaker's last match to be whether he's wearing a red or blue T-shirt this month.
  2. if he can work Survivor Series this year, in front of a crowd, that would be ideal - let him have a "proper" match with AJ, or come up with something else entirely, but to round it off at the same event he debuted at, after 30 years, is as good a way as any to go out.
  3. Other allegations that have seen about Riddle have been around cheating, rather than anything as severe as the biggest accusation. That said, people who I trust have come out in support of the accuser, in such a way that makes it sound like something she's been struggling to live with.
  4. There's also that we're only seeing what the women in question are comfortable sharing publicly. While there are obviously gradients of behaviour to be considered here, and it can be difficult to determine tone, we have to assume that women (and these women who have been around all the creeps of wrestling for year especially) can tell the difference between honest flirtation, a clumsy pass, and something more sinister.
  5. I think with Enzo he was so widely disliked that they were glad of the excuse to sack him off. I don't know what came of Velveteen Dream's story, but they never seemed particularly fussed about that one.
  6. That's part of it, but also it's women like Jayla Dark and, especially, Sierra Loxton at the forefront of this, both of whom are retired, so they don't have the usual worries of being blacklisted or losing bookings for speaking out.
  7. Yeah, I'm seeing a refreshing lack of dickheads targeting the victims compared to last time (how fucking depressing is it that there's a "last time"?), and a more coordinated effort to provide support for those coming out. That some of the women involved in spearheading this and coordinating stories are basically in a position of having nothing to lose, in terms of losing bookings or anything, is probably a huge help, too.
  8. I would suspect his "other forms of racism" is an entirely imaginary racism towards white people.
  9. found that video yet?
  10. I hate it. It's smug, classist bullshit to present racism as the preserve of a lazy working class/benefits culture stereotype. If you want to critique racists, start with the ones with smart suits and ties in the corridors of power. What part of "that's for all communities, if you want to uplift yourselves - invest in your own businesses" do you disagree with, exactly? Or is just the bad faith right wing argument insisting that he told people to boycott white businesses that you object to? Tyson Fury is right that there is still a problem with racism against traveller communities - it goes largely unremarked upon, and when I was a kid growing up just outside of Hull, it was probably the most common form of racism I encountered. Can we expect to see you campaigning for their rights any time soon?
  11. I'm more worried about what they do with Orton next than Edge, actually. If he can keep up this level of intensity and character work until Edge comes back, happy days, but if he gets dragged down into the mire of 50/50 booking and not giving a shit, they're going to have to work to heat this one back up again when Edge is back.
  12. yeah, in some ways it could be a blessing in disguise to almost hit the reset button on his return, that way he gets to come back in front of a live crowd again, and him being back will still feel fresh and exciting, rather than potentially losing all its novelty before the fans come back.
  13. BomberPat

    Backlash

    My problem with the Profits/Raiders match is that it was set up by Tom Phillips saying something like, "I'm receiving word that our cameras have caught up with something going on backstage". It was presented as something that was happening live, that the cameras happened to catch going on - yet it had multiple camera angles, extreme close-ups, background music, and flashbacks. You can excuse some of that stuff when it's a scheduled cinematic match - there'd have been a lot of cameras in the WWE building for the Money In The Bank match, so you can account for there being one around every corner to catch everything going on. If it had all been filmed a few days earlier, you can accept that they might have stuck on some background music in the editing suite, even cut in some flashback footage. But when it's meant to be a fight that's going on live, can we have a little internal logic, please?
  14. It was a perfectly serviceable WWE main event. Might have been better if it had been live, but then probably would have booked and presented entirely differently if it had been. The weird late '70s/early '80s trappings of the MSG microphone, Finkel's voice, and Charles Robinson's old-fashioned gear just seemed bizarre, as none of it played into anything - they didn't present the match as if it were filmed anywhere else, it wasn't edited or produced to look like a "classic" of days gone by, they just stuck that stuff at the beginning and then very quickly moved on. It's pretty telling that WWE's attempt to do "best ever" is to call back to the past, rather than celebrate where they're at now - in that respect I'm surprised they went with MSG references rather than the Attitude Era, but maybe this was Bruce Prichard's personal nostalgia trip. Either way, it's not a good look to say, "remember what you used to have?" Speaking of Attitude Era nostalgia - a lot of wrestlers I've worked with or spoken to have all had stories of working inconsequential indie shows where whatever they were doing wasn't getting over, so they just thought "fuck it" and started spamming old WWF finishers to amuse themselves. A stretch of this match felt like that. There's some kayfabe logic for Orton going for a Pedigree, but Edge hitting the Rock Bottom? In a match that's already seen the Three Amigos and Christian's finish? In terms of editing - there was a point where Samoa Joe was visible on camera, his mouth shut, while you could hear him speaking on commentary. It would be rightly shat on if any TV show had that level of poor continuity. I have no objection to "cinematic matches" in principle, but they should be reserved for daft stuff like the Boneyard Match that's at a different location to the main show. Doing a standard wrestling match, but having retakes and impossible camera angles within it, feels like a waste of time and like you're slightly insulting the audience's intelligence. It starts to feel like wrestling actually is all the stuff your wrestling hating dad said it was - all acting, fake blood and whiffed punches - except that, in spite of all that, wrestlers are still getting injured and cut open. It's not worth it.
  15. Edge has aged well in the same way Piper did. With a bit more grey in their beard and a bit more wear around the face, they look like hard men, whereas in their primes they both looked kind of doughy and unthreatening by wrestling standards.
  16. I really think the correct response for any non-Tory politician about sentences for people attacking statues/memorials should be, "we have existing laws against vandalism, and I expect to see them implemented here". It's "law and order" enough to say that the people who did it are doing something wrong, while not cravenly chasing the Tory narrative by suggesting that they deserve a ridiculous, arbitrary inflated penalty. Labour have shat the bed in response to this one, IMO, though I doubt it matters in the grand scheme of things.
  17. The other thing to add to that is Heenan would have been looking at his monitor, so not expecting anyone to come behind him that wasn't on camera - he might not have immediately even realised it was Pillman.
  18. Something like 30% of black households are in the lowest quarter of household income bracket, while less than 10% are in the highest income bracket. Ethnic minorities are considerably more likely to live in poverty than white households. Unemployment rates are twice as high among ethnic minorities as among white people. Black workers, including black workers with a degree education, earn on average 15-25% less than white workers of equivalent education. In percentage terms, less than half the amount of black school leavers attend Russel Group universities compared to white students. Black women have a morality rate more than three times higher than white women. Black people are more likely to be stopped by police, more likely to be arrested, more likely to receive harsher sentences, etc etc The problem with saying that racism will always exist because "some people will be wankers" is that it reduces racism to personal interaction, and basically just to "do you get called racial slurs", reducing the whole thing to "it's racist if someone uses the magical racist words". People aren't marching and protesting to not be called a black bastard in the street, though obviously no one wants that. They're marching against ingrained, structural and political issues of racism and inequality. Against all the ways the system disadvantages ethnic minorities. And the way you imply that, in protesting that, they're somehow *causing* racism, I find frankly disgusting. If right wing racists are going to be racist, I wish they'd just fucking stand by their beliefs rather wringing their hands about how all the nasty leftists and black people hurt their feelings and *made them* be racist.
  19. Statues tell us more about the society that erects them than about the person being represented - they show us who that society deems worthy of celebration, and nothing more. While I wouldn't want to absolutely claim they lack historical value, before the debate around the removal of Confederate statues in America, I don't think you'd find a single person making the argument for statues as an educational tool. It is not, and never had been, what they're for, and the suggestion that statues are a politically neutral aide memoire falls somewhere between extreme naivety and reactionary nonsense. In terms of what defacing or toppling a statue achieves for people today, it's not necessarily about the statue itself, it's a criticism on how history is taught and understood in our country. It's an extension of calls for schools to teach about British imperialism, for universities to "decolonise" their reading lists, and all manner of other social and academic movements converging. Perhaps it's a little abstract, or even utopian, but the hopeful belief is that a more honest reckoning with British history and culture would be a step towards dismantling the jingoism and exceptionalism that has turned entire generations into uncritical flag nonces.
  20. maybe if he'd crowbarred in a reference to Vince not being my dad I'd have got it.
  21. Heyman did have an autobiography in the pipeline, but it was shelved when he returned to WWE. It getting set back and set back - I had it on pre-order for probably a couple of years by the end of it all - but I've heard nothing about anything being released since he came back.
  22. I don't deny that, and it's frustrating. I don't know how we - by which I mean any social movement, really - can attempt to control the narrative better given the overwhelming political power of the press. She isn't "raising questions", she's stating as fact things that have no basis in reality, and repeating harmful rhetoric to a wide audience.
  23. It's not "dictatorship" or even "censorship". These haven't been top down decisions, or caving to pressure or anything of the sort. No one in BLM was out on the streets marching for the Mighty Boosh to get taken off Netflix. It's a cynical, commercial decision by a corporation to make it look like they were doing something. In days gone by, if a TV station decided they weren't going to show something any more, they'd just stop showing repeats, they wouldn't make a big press package about it. Any fault here lies with Netflix and the BBC, no one else. Some of my favourite things to have ever been on TV were never repeated, some never released on DVD. Some released and then withdrawn from sale. None of those were examples of censorship, just commercial decision making.
  24. It should also be pointed out that, as far as I can tell, there were no calls within the BLM movement for Netflix to do anything. They took action themselves, and it's been conflated to "PC snowflakes demand classic telly be banned" through no fault of their own. Profoundly depressing stuff.
  25. This is an interesting one, in that it's (I think) a very well constructed joke, where the punchline is that a character like the Major would uncharacteristically object to a racist slur, only for the revelation to then be not that he objects to the slur in principle, but that he's being specific about which slur to use. It's about subverting expectations. The problem is that for this to work, part of the joke has to be taking some degree of joy from the transgression of saying the slur in the first place. It's aged badly and that's fine. Comedy reflects the social values of the time, so it's only right that it would age faster than most genres.
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