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1 hour ago, Tommy! said:

Following this didn't Gauntlet start some non 1PW shows that stopped before it really started?

Pro Wrestling 101. I went to one of the shows in Sheffield (possibly their only one?) It was a really excellent show with some great matches. 

Off the back of that, I bought a ticket to the next show like a mug. It got cancelled and I never got a refund. 

And yet, I'm still half intrigued by this new show. 😫

XPW's deathmatch return went SEVEN HOURS and finished at 5am local time.

The winner destroyed the trophy and shouted "fuck Rob Black, fuck this company, fuck this trophy!"

PWInsider Report

The one review I've found, on Cagematch, calls it "surprisingly good" so I think I'll give it a go. 

Show results on Cagematch

Necro Butcher wrestled for almost 20 minutes, against Hoodfoot, easily the longest match on the show. I know Necro has been a sad state in recent videos, but fuck it, that's a dream pairing! 

Full show on YouTube

I think SS 92 was the only televised one called a Coffin match. By RR 94 it was a Casket match. 

Weird that they used a coffin in some casket matches but still called it a Casket match. 

What was the first Casket match to actually use a casket? 

I keep seeing people say they didn't like Orange Cassidy at first because they didn't get his character/gimmick. I see similar said about Danhausen.

I like Orange a lot and always have, but I don't know that he has a character or gimmick to get. He pretty much seems to me like 'guy who wrestles in denim'. What's his character that I'm missing?

Bret Hart v Piper from the same show

King Kong Bundy v Hogan, WM2 I think had a fair bit of blood.

....That's all I can think of though. 

Great quiz @air_raidthanks! Only just seen it or I'd have had a stab. Kurt Angle was the only one I thought I knew 100%!

How about continuing this Round Robin style, as winner @SpykeDudlei1could pitch a question, first correct answer gets to set one etc? 

I've been listening to the Way Of The Blade podcast a lot recently. It's hosted by Phil Schneider of Segunda Caida/DVDVR. He has great guests (Necro Butcher, Tony Khan, Dustin Rhodes) and really interesting discussions on there. A recent episode with Jimmy Jacobs had some mad stories, including him demonstrating blading during a lecture in front of his class. 

I don't always agree with the kind of wrestling Phil likes (hard punches and workrate-y) but I had to check out a match they talked about on the last ep.

It's from an extreme Mexican promotion I haven't heard of before - Zona 23. The show takes place in a literal junkyard. The match is between 69 year old Black Terry and 64 year old Mr. Condor. They beat the absolute shit out of each other. There is a lot of blood, and I don't even know what causes them to bleed half the time. It is wild! 

4 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

Funnily enough I probably enjoy the PPVs more because I've not had to sit through all the shit beforehand. And that's weird right? Like surely I should need to tune in to the storylines and the developments etc but somehow that's just not what they sell.

Couldn't agree with your post more, especially this part! 

It's been well over a year since I've even tracked down a WWE TV match or segment. I think the last think was probably Nia Jax and "MY HOLE!"

In terms of watching something because it's actually good, that would be the original run of Firefly Funhouse segments and before that the first couple of months of AJ Styles and that was 2016!! That same year had Shane McMahon's return. I can't think of any surprises that have happened on WWE TV since then? 

I was a huge mark at the time, of wrestling in general, but didn't have a Sky subscription so only kept up with WWE via here (or maybe even the old TWO forums at that time).

I was really excited for the show. I enjoyed the WWECW I could catch. The one hour run time helped and I enjoy so-bad-it's-good wrestling like the Balls/Kelly Kelly/Mike Knox love story and the "Monsters" like Khali and Big Daddy V.

I think the awesome Silent Night, Deadly Night-inspired poster also helped, back when you could download them as wallpapers from WWE.com - it was my laptop background each December for years after!

Of course, when I read the show reviews the next day I was hugely disappointed. I don't think I've watched anything except clips since.

One thing that got me excited was the EXTREME~! Elimination Chamber. I went wild imaging what that would be like! Would they replace the chains with barbed wire? Would they hang weapons from the roof like Lethal Lockdown? Nope! You can take one weapon in each fellas. Did they announce that in advance, or were the details of the match kept vague?

Here's a highlight video. Probably all you really need to watch from the show. 

The video quality is amazing! The explosions are fantastic. They looked genuinely dangerous, the exploding lighttubes especially.

Gotta love the addition of straight up fireworks. There's some fancam clips that show the streams of fireworks going up. 

Onita doesn't take a single bump, or certainly no big bumps. The fire spot at the end was just reckless as well. 

I've been obsessed with John Rare since reading on here about the Finger Incident (why does deathmatch wrestling love to call them 'incidents'??)

Here is a long bit I wrote about John Rare:

And here are my thoughts about the match itself:

Verdit: definitely a work, I think Rare really had his finger end removed, but there was something odd about how it was done. 

Will the whole story come out eventually? Maybe. Do many people care? Probably not.

By complete coincidence, I've just discovered a podcast called History of FMW. On most podcast platforms and also YouTube. The later episodes have branched out into other Japanese deathmatch promotions, including Freedoms. They're up to 2020 now, so could be a good starting place. 

The genius of wrestling is "what the people want" should be what the company has made the fans want. 

Babyfaces do cool things and give impassioned speeches. Heels do dastardly things and say bad stuff. 

For a very long time, WWE has done that thing where in a dueling promo, the babyface stands there while the other guy runs them down. Only the heels are allowed to do anything the fans see as cool. Therefore, the fans don't react the 'right' way, WWE resents this, and the people don't get what they want. 

In AEW, the baby faces are cool as fuck and the heels are bastards. The fans get what they want, because they want the same guy to win as the company does. 

I hear WCW's "plastic barbed wire" mentioned from time to time. Are there any notable examples of this? 

15 hours ago, Tommy! said:

May 19th 2006. Surely everyone remembers that? 

Even my wife knows that, and she hates wrestling.

Then again, it is the mnemonic for our wedding anniversary (and I'm sure for Prince Harry too)

Thanks @Uncle Zeband @Chris BI've found it! Turns out memory is a funny thing! 

So, I was getting 2 matches mixed together, only being a Channel 4 WWF fan at the time. 

There was a page later that must have been the Flair connection misremembering. 

Edit: so I was completely wrong and it WAS the Flair/Nash match (partly) 

Thanks for the replies guys. Definitely helps me narrow it down. 

I'm thinking it being for the commissionership must be a red herring. 

I'm also wondering if it might have been David Flair in the match, not Ric. I definitely remember bleached blonde hair but I don't know if David was a mark for the blade in WCW like his old man. 

I'm trying to find a match I remember reading about in a mate's copy of WCW Magazine as a kid. Here's what I remember (at least some must be misremembered):

• there was a LOT of blood in the photos
• they fought at the WCW.com table, used keyboard or laptop as a weapon
• I'm sure it was for the title of WCW Commissioner
• Ric Flair or Terry Funk was probably in it 
• it would have been late 90s/early 00s
• it was not the Terry Funk/Kevin Nash Souled Out match

Anyone have any guesses? I can't find any PPV match that fits. Would a TV match have had a 2 page write-up?

34 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

... That's the outlines I'd approach for those match types, though.

Couldn't agree with this more!! I hate that in the WWE's world the stipulation is picked purely as a name to market the match (No DQ matches happen as throwaways on Raw and Street Fights are saved for very special occasions), while the rules are all identical.

At last year's 'Mania there was the Extreme Hardcore Street Fight, or whatever crazy title it had. No different to a No Holds Barred match in terms of rules, and ended up being a boring let down.

I know it wouldn't do anything to fix the bigger problems WWE has (just like bringing back the special stages for different PPVs wouldn't make a difference to the actual in-ring show), but I'd really like to see the distinctions between match types like you outlined.

In regards to this show, how is an Extreme Rules Fatal Five-Way different to a 'regular' Fatal Five-Way?? Non-elimination multi-man matches are always no DQ, no count out anyway. Do the wrestlers sign contracts before the match promising they'll twat each other with chairs to fulfil the stipulation?!?

Do wrestling DVDs still hold their value? I am moving house soon and unfortunately I don't think my vast collection of wrestling DVDs will be making the trip and I'm looking at selling them. I have the majority of WWF OOP DVDs and know they were selling for a bit a while ago but appreciate with the launch of the network that these could no longer be as valuable. I have WWF/WWE DVDs/blu Rays from as early as 1999 to as recent as 2015. I also have a lot of ROH DVDs ranging from 2002 to 2008.

 

Is looking at average prices on eBay the best thing to do here to get an idea of prices?

I got rid of most of my vast DVD collection a year and a half ago, to make some quick cash. I Music Magpie'd most of it. Their app lets you scan the barcodes and tells you how much they offer, but you don't have to sell them.

I got some good money for some of my American imports (I guess as they're 'rare' on these shores). I think some got well over £10. WWF PPVs might fetch a bit, but you're better off selling those individually on eBay, along with compilation boxsets. WWE PPVs are pretty much worthless I think.

I'm currently living in China, in Jinan in the Shandong province. I get digital tv here but no idea if any of the channels I get carry WWE programming. Wikipedia says it's on "local channels" in China and the WWE website redirects to a random Chinese website. Can anyone advise if I can watch WWE TV here?

I'm planning for my final TESOL training lesson, and I've got a bit obsessed with doing a UFO themed one...

Can anyone point me in the direction of some UK eye witness testimony audio clips?

The only ones I've been able to find are all American like here: http://www.ufosnw.com/newsite/category/audio/

Why was it painted green?

Before all X Division matches, they've started showing an intro video (they've done a similar thing with Knockouts as well) and the colour scheme and video filter is the same green. They've painted the belt to match.

Seems kind of the wrong way round, and also about a month too late, because TNA.

This has reminded me there's a James Randi doc on BBC iPlayer at the moment:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04ndsb3/storyville-20142015-8-exposed-magicians-psychics-and-frauds

I caught the end on BBC4 the other week and have been meaning to watch the whole thing.

There's just been a Facebook ad in the ad break using a piano version of Like a Prayer, just to rub in it not playing during Grado's entrance. I was really looking forward to seeing his debut, but the stock music and minimal background (not even a clip of Bootcamp) really took away from the moment.