Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted March 26, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2011 Good comeback. Nice to see you putting up a strong backup to your argument.
The Miz Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 My argument has nothing to do with this fella. Your just one of these people who are such a know it all, when they debate and don't agree with someones opinion they come out with shit that is rude and makes you look like a bit of an idiot, which i'm sure your not. I'm not the only one you talk that that too around here. And your argument about plugging on American Idol is totally false because I have seen them plug personalities and shows on other networks several times over the past few seasons alone.
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted March 26, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2011 And your argument about plugging on American Idol is totally false because I have seen them plug personalities and shows on other networks several times over the past few seasons alone. Was the product they plugged a wrestling show on the same night on a different channel and by a bloke they have on to do a skit with a contestant? Saying stuff like "Hogan on American Idol and he doesn't mention TNA once. Awesome work TNA!" is completely false. I'm just pointing it out to you. Hogan isnt Bon Jovi or George Michael. He's there for them to have a laugh with, not to promote a product to make advertisers happy.
The Miz Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 No it was plugging a product, regardless of what it is it is still a product that Hogan is being paid big money to work with. And TNA should have asked him to atleast mention it.
Paid Members WWFChilli Posted March 26, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2011 As big as Hogan is in the world of wrestling, in the world of TV he doesn't mean jack shit much. He got a little spot on Idol on ANOTHER channel the same night as TNA. Do you think the executives at American Idol would really let Hogan promote a show on a rival network. It would be stupid, they shouldn't have a job if they let him, as they would be essentially telling there demographic to piss off to another channel. It's not the fact that Ian's talking down to you Miz. It's just logic, If Idol was on Spike it would be a different matter altogether.
Paid Members WWFChilli Posted March 26, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2011 No it was plugging a product, regardless of what it is it is still a product that Hogan is being paid big money to work with. And TNA should have asked him to atleast mention it. and the executives would have said "No mate it's on another channel, that's a bit mental for us to do that in Primetime TV" only in american and using network lingo probably
Paid Members Teedy Kay Posted March 26, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2011 Hogan was promoting one product and one product alone, the same product he's been promoting since the turn of the 90s, the product being Hogan. He could've worn a TNA shirt at the minimum, but no, twas a Hogan shirt. Either way, the clip was decent. I loved the fact that black lass was so anti wrestling, but as soon as Hogan came out she popped like everyone else. Very disappointed that the 'fan' didn't do the Hall/Nash pointing when he was stood next to the big man.
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted March 26, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2011 Hogan was promoting one product and one product alone, the same product he's been promoting since the turn of the 90s, the product being Hogan. Of course he was. They hired him. They didnt hire a bells and whistles media campagn with TNA on it. He could've worn a TNA shirt at the minimum, but no, twas a Hogan shirt. How do you know he could have? Logos and brand names are forbidden on reality shows and television shows in general, especially ones advertising products on a rival channel. He could have worn a "Bischoff Heavy Entertainment" shirt as well, considering it was through them that he got the gig. But, he your not allowed to.
Paid Members Teedy Kay Posted March 26, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2011 Hogan was promoting one product and one product alone, the same product he's been promoting since the turn of the 90s, the product being Hogan. Of course he was. They hired him. They didnt hire a bells and whistles media campagn with TNA on it. He could've worn a TNA shirt at the minimum, but no, twas a Hogan shirt. How do you know he could have? Logos and brand names are forbidden on reality shows and television shows in general, especially ones advertising products on a rival channel. He could have worn a "Bischoff Heavy Entertainment" shirt as well, considering it was through them that he got the gig. But, he your not allowed to. A T-Shirt, now pause, breath, think of a humming bird, think of a dolphin, think of Ted Danson in the role of Sam Malone in Cheers, dismiss all ideas of bells, whistles and media campaigns with confetti flying and dancing girls prancing to Final Countdown by Europe, and then go back the point ... A T ... ... ... Shirt. Product placement is banned, hence the shoddy yet VERY clever job of the Coca Cola glasses on previous seasons of American Idol. A guest wrestler with a logo on shirt would not be, Christ look at the WWE talent appearances over the years, WWF/E can be found on them easily. To think a show of the magnitude of American Idol would even give two shits about TNA is laughable, their key demographic of school girls and housewives wouldn't even consider turning over to see Hogan on a different channel and the show would know that. They'd made a joke of the whole concept of wrestling before the appearance anyways, they know to most it's seen as a joke. To believe that it was through Bisch that Hogan got the gig is also redundant, think wrestling, think Hogan, his agent is a simple bi-product of that. The simple fact is Hogan has money in TNA, a simple Tee could have easily been worn and AIdol wouldn't have given a fuck about it, that appearance serves as a physical manifestation of Hogan and his ideology of TNA, an ego trip to get him on telly. He has no inclination of getting that product over, just his ego. I mean it's ridiculous to consider a different show on a different channel would ever be plugged isn't it? Oh wait a mo, hasn't RAW and isn't Wrestlemania serving as an out and out commercial for an MTV show? I do believe it is!
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted March 26, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2011 American Idol reaches 23 million homes. WWE has celebrities from other shows to get them in gossip columns and to raise their profile in markets that usually wouldnt give a toss about WWE. The Jersey Shore comparison just doesnt hold up, because that is a far bigger TV show that Raw is. Fox wouldnt want a TV show which is shown straight after American Idol being promoted on their show by one of the most famous wrestlers on the planet. WWE arent allowed to wear Affliction shirts or any logo based shirts because its company policy. They wear generic fashion shite or WWE shirts. You cant just promote anything. T-shirts and logos are always checked, because if he went on TV with some logo that was an in-joke for "Ryan is a Peado", they'll not be to pleased. And Hogan's whole act is tearing his shirt off. He should be wearing a Hulk Hogan t-shirt. Steve Austin never wore a "WWF" t-shirt when he would go on Mad TV in the late 90s. Hogan's done a shitload to promote TNA, and it simply doesnt work, because it takes more than one person on a big TV show to promote the company, because the marketting and promotion side of the company just isnt very good. The simple fact is Hogan has money in TNA Does he?
Paid Members WWFChilli Posted March 27, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 27, 2011 Drunken Edit... My dad Mike Castle told me straight
Paid Members Mike Castle Posted March 27, 2011 Paid Members Posted March 27, 2011 Ian your on your own He's only on his own because there's no need for anyone else to step in and back him up as he's making a perfectly good job of talking sense by himself.
iamtheman Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 CM Punk busts a move and funny promo honestly just about to post that punk is a better wrestler(sorry) entertainer than anyone else and he can do the worm too
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