Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 15 Author Paid Members Posted May 15 (edited) Apologies in advance, thisāll be a long ramble. Itās taken me all week to even be arsed to comment on this walking bag of vomit becoming two time champ. Awful scenes. But I guess Iāve got to begrudgingly give credit. Whether we like it or not, this twat can now say he took the title off Israel Adesanya and Khamzat Chimaev. Sean Strickland of all people. I donāt think anyone wouldāve predicted a few years ago, that Strickland would be the one to hand Khamzat his first loss. MMA is fucking weird. I havenāt watched it back but on first viewing I had Khamzat taking it 3-2. Accuse me of being a hater or biased but thatās legit how I had it. Canāt remember now which rounds exactly I scored to who but I do remember thinking the third was the āswing roundā, with them splitting the other four 2-2. And I recall that third round being close and one where you could make a solid case for either of them. My recollection of that round is that Strickland had more volume but I felt like Khamzat did more damage, hence me leaning towards him. But although I had Khamzat edging it, I wouldnāt be outraged at anyone scoring that round for Strickland either. So yeah, a less long-winded way of saying it would be that I had Khamzat winning the fight but I didnāt think Strickland getting the nod was a bad decision. And definitely not a robbery. I hate admitting that but fairās fair. This was a bit much for me. Helwani and Strickland have got into a big tedious back and forth on this with Helwani predictably making multiple videos beating the subject to death like the boring little nerd he is. Canāt stand either of them so Iām not gonna take a side. But while I get the whole āthey were just building a fightā bollocks usually, this was a different case where you had Strickland calling him āgoat fuckerā for weeks, slagging off Muslims every chance he got and outright calling Khamzatās mother a āwhoreā at the weigh in. Then after the fight theyāre all up each others arses? I doubt Khamzat okayed him saying that stuff beforehand. Itās not like I even wanted them to carry on the beef post-fight. Nothing good was gonna come from that and Iām actually glad there werenāt the ugly post-fight scenes I think many expected. But to go from ripping into Muslims and insulting the guyās mum to then going āOh no I love my Muslim fans, Khamzatās a great guy reallyā isnāt really gonna cut it. Thereās faking beef to sell a fight, and I think thatās lame anyway. But he crossed lines here and said things you canāt just take back and chalk up to fight promotion. And for people who use this to go āSee, Seanās a good guy reallyā, Iād say thatās shite. The fact heās happy to use religion, racism, homophobia and insulting family members merely as āpromotionā for his own financial gain tells you all you need to know about what a piece of shit he is. The worst/funniest thing about Strickland getting a big win like this is all the dopey talk you get from his fans in the fallout. State of shite like this⦠Just one of many examples Iāve seen this week. Heās champ again and this was a legitimately great win for him, youād think that should be enough. But no, we have to get silly and start with the āStrickland is the GOAT!!ā talk. He was 2-2 in his last four coming into this fight, for fuckās sake 𤣠I compare his resume at 185 to Fabricio Werdumās at Heavyweight and I think it fits. Werdum had skills but he never had a prolonged run of consistency where he could put together a real streak of wins over a series of top guys. He had a bunch of losses sprinkled in there. He also had wins over three of the greatest Heavyweights of all time in Fedor, Cain and Big Nog. Do you consider Werdum the GOAT Heavyweight? Of course not. Stricklandās now in the conversation when it comes to the best Middleweights ever but his overall record doesnāt match Anderson Silvaās. Sorry, it just doesnāt. Rogan saying this was āone of the best Middleweight title fights everā made me laugh as well. It was dramatic and Strickland ending Khamzatās unbeaten streak was a significant moment. But best fights? Like actual fights? I get some are high on it now because it just happened but this isnāt gonna stand the test of time when it comes to āgreat fightsā convos in the future. Even if weāre just talking Middleweight, this fight couldnāt hold a candle to Adesanya vs Gastelum, Silva vs Sonnen 1, Whittaker vs Romero 1 and 2 or even Weidman vs Machida, which is a forgotten great fight. Stricklandās little apologetic attempt at a babyface turn probably isnāt gonna last long. Iām guessing heāll be defending against Nassourdine Imavov next, another Muslim, so heāll probably forget about all his āMuslim fansā again, like he has any, so he can āsell the fightā, even though thereās no PPV now, so whoās he even āsellingā it to? Thereās no āmoney fightsā anymore. You get paid whatever you negotiated for your contract and thatās it. No cut of the PPV because UFC PPVs donāt exist. So all this pathetic edgelord ragebaiting shit is for what exactly? As for Khamzat, where does he go from here? Light Heavyweight apparently. Dana said Khamzat told him after the fight that heās done at 185 and wants to move up to 205. I donāt like it. For one, I felt like he looked smaller than Strickland in the cage. And while he dominated DDP, he wasnāt able to finish. Went to a close decision with short notice Usman at 185 as well. The only finish heās managed against a top Middleweight was against Whittaker. An admittedly scary performance but thatās one finish out of his last four fights at 185. So Iām not even sure how effective he is at Middleweight, much less how his game is gonna carry up to 205. As a small Light Heavyweight, is he even gonna be strong and physical enough to get his wrestling going in the same way he did at 170/185? Howās he gone from struggling to make weight at 170, to moving up to 185 and now blaming the weight cut again after just a few fights at that weight? What happens if he loses at 205? Is he off to Heavyweight then? Whatever happens, Iām not sure Iāve ever seen a fighter lose their monster aura quicker than Khamzat has. Van vs Taira was fantastic. What a fight. I picked Taira going in and when he got the takedown and got straight into mount in the opening seconds of the fight I thought my prediction was gonna come true in disappointingly one-sided fashion. Thankfully that wasnāt the case though and we got a real back and forth battle with twists and turns. Van showed improvements in his defensive grappling as well. Taira was able to take him down a lot and get dominant positions but Van was doing well with the butterfly guard and did a good job not leaving his back exposed much, which is usually Tairaās sweet spot and was clearly what he was trying to create an opening for. Taira showed real heart and toughness as well. Even that second round knockdown was heavy and he ate it and survived. The third was brutal on Taira. Van fucked him up, especially with his jab, and I actually thought he might be about to sub Taira at one point, which wouldāve been a surprise. Taira came out fired up in the 4th and had a good round. Then the finish in the 5th⦠I can see why Taira felt like it was a premature stoppage. If youāre him, you would, wouldnāt you? He was still conscious so, to him, he can still win the fight. But he was getting battered there and every punch from Van was landing and snapping Tairaās head back. Considering the accumulation of damage Taira had taken, I can kind of see why the ref jumped in. Definitely leaves an argument for a rematch down the line though and a story to tell if it happens. Given how young they both are, you have to think theyāre bound to cross paths again whether the belt is on the line or not. On 5/13/2026 at 7:48 AM, Dai said: Van/Taira was a banger. Wont be a MOTY contender, but still a cracker. Wouldnāt be number one but Iād definitely have Van vs Taira on the FOTY contender list, even just as an honourable mention, unless weāve got loads of bangers coming in the next 7 months that end up pushing it down the list. Thought it was tremendous. Probably the best Flyweight fight since Figgy vs Moreno 1 for me. On 5/13/2026 at 7:48 AM, Dai said: Must be an immediate rematch Id assume. I wouldnāt hate it but I canāt see it myself. Iāve seen clips of Pantoja back in the gym so heās probably gonna be back soon. And he should get first dibs surely, given his reign and how the first fight with Van played out and ended. Thereās unfinished business there and not only would it be fair to Pantoja, it would also give Van the opportunity to really solidify himself as champion if he can legitimately beat Pantoja. Itās the right fight to make. Iād like to see Taira have a fight or two and get a couple of training camps in to get a bit more seasoning before having another run at the gold. Heās still only 26, thereās no rush and he might be better equipped to win the title at that point. I still wouldnāt rule him out of becoming the first Japanese UFC champion. After a fight like this, heās not gonna be far from another title shot regardless. Horiguchi could potentially beat him to it now though but weāll see how the division plays out. Feels kind of wide open at 125 now, which is really refreshing and cool when you consider the possibilities of mixing and matching you can do in the title picture now with Van, Pantoja, Taira, Horiguchi, Kape, Royval and Kavanagh. A whole bunch of potential FOTY candidates with that lot. Volkov vs Waldo was shit but I was happy to see Volkov get the win just because I was getting sick of seeing people talk like Waldo is elite based off wins over Ante Delija, Shamil Gaziev and a Derrick Lewis who looked like he couldnāt be arsed. Fair enough, Waldo was way more watchable in that little stretch of wins than he was earlier in his UFC career but I wasnāt on board with the sudden āSalsa Boyā love-in. A lot of fans seemed to forget that Waldo got shut down in a plodding snoozer by a gun-shy Sergei Pavlovich as recently as last August, yet he was being talked about like some world beater by the start of this year. Glad to see Volkov put an end to that silliness. Even if it was rotten to watch. Donāt know whatās next for Volkov but whatever it is I hope itās a good fight. Because the Jailton Almeida stinker and then this load of wank back-to-back has been brutal to watch. Can see them doing him vs Hokit actually if Hokit beats Lewis at the White House. Sean Brady didnāt knock anyoneās socks off but it was a dominant performance, a lopsided decision win and youād think itās just what the doctor ordered coming off that first round clobbering he got from Michael Morales last time out. A finish wouldāve been ideal but all in all this had to be very satisfying for Brady, especially given the needle between him and Buckley when the fight was signed. Iād imagine Brady is pretty much a lock for UFC 330 in August now with it being in Philly. Iād expect him to be in a prominent main card fight on that one against a name. Seeing a lot of talk of him fighting Kamaru Usman and that would do the trick. Iād be interested to see that. Gotta think King Green pretty much drove the final nail in the coffin for Jeremy Stephens as far as MMA goes. At the very least heās surely done for life with the UFC now. Havenāt seen anything confirming that but Iād be surprised if they bring him back again. Heās gone 0-2 since they first brought him back last year, he missed weight for this fight and didnāt seem to give a fuck, publicly criticised the UFC, then got subbed in a round by Green and looked pretty crap in the process and heās gonna be 40 at the end of this month. Oh, and I saw a stat that Stephens now has the most losses in UFC history with 20. Yeah, heās a goner isnāt he? Probably be back in Bare Knuckle by summer. Ateba Gautier got back to his finishing ways after going the distance in his last fight. He had no bother with Ozzy Diaz here, took his time in the first but found the big shot in the second. Could argue the stoppage was too soon and maybe it was but I was fine with it. The way Ozzy fell like crash test dummy, like he lost all control of his body, I can see why the ref waved it off. Best part of it was, when the first round ended and Diaz went back to his stool, you could clearly hear him tell his cornermen āHe has no powerā. Ha. Howād that work out for you, Oswald? Seen all kinds of reaction to this win, from āGautier is a future champā to āGautierās a fraudā. I donāt think fights like these are anything to base either opinion on though. The juryās still massively out on him. Iāve said before that Iād be happy to see him just keep getting fed ham and eggers like this for the rest of the year, and step him up in 2027. But Iām more leaning towards the āwhy wait?ā mentality now. While him smashing up nobodies and getting the reps is no bad thing, heās not really gonna learn much or develop at this level. Wouldnāt mind seeing him get a proper test next. And even if he loses, heās only 23, heās got time to come back from it. I know heās calling for a fight with Israel Adesanya now but Iām not sure how to feel about that. Iām not keen. Saw some suggestions for doing Gautier vs āRobocopā Rodrigues though and, man, it might not last very long but imagine the violence that would bring? Yaroslav Amosov looked quality again and against a really tough and dangerous opponent in Joel Alvarez. Bear in mind the only man to beat Alvarez in his previous 9 fights was Arman Tsarukyan. Alvarez is no joke and Amosov completely outclassed him, outgrappled him and put the cherry on top with a beauty of a submission followed by a spinaroonie that puts Booker Tās to shame. Now can you dig that? SUCKAAAA! He improves to 30-1 and is now ranked #10 at Welterweight according to the UFC website as I type this. Funnily enough, the only man to ever beat him is Jason Jackson and heās fighting on the Rousey vs Carano card on NetflixĀ tomorrow night. But yeah, Amosov might be a real issue in the UFCās 170 division and it is nice to see at least one Bellator guy come over and not shit the bed. He didnāt come in with the fanfare of a Chandler, Pitbull, Pico or even Patchy Mix, but heās definitely the one whoās came in most looking like a legit contender. And at 32 years old, heās probably still in his prime. For once, a great pickup by the UFC, at a time when they often let guys like this slip away to another promotion. Not sure whatās next for Amosov though. Looking at the names above him in the rankings, I wouldnāt mind seeing Amosov vs Brady or even Usman, to be honest. But I reckon theyāll do Usman vs Brady next. If not one of them, maybe Iām wrong but I canāt see them giving Amosov someone coming off a loss like JDM, Edwards or Buckley next. Maybe they go with Belal if he beats Bonfim at the Apex in early June? Grant Dawson outgrappling and subbing Mateusz Rebecki was pretty much how I saw that one playing out. What I didnāt expect though, was for Rebecki to willingly grapple so much with Dawson, whoās one of the better grapplers in the Lightweight division. Even more confusing was Rebecki dropping Dawson in the second round, then instead of letting him up when he was still groggy and ripe for the finish, he grabs him and ends up tangled up in a clinch against the fence, allowing Dawson to recover enough to survive the round and then get the choke in the third. Every time they were striking, it wasnāt pretty but Rebecki was getting the better of it. Heāll have been kicking himself when he watched that second round back. That turned out to be his one chance and he blew it. Fair play to Dawson though. Survived some rough spells and found the late finish. Really couldāve done without the Bible thumping bit in the post-fight interview but whatever. Loved seeing Jim Miller get the first round guillotine (Miller-tine?) sub in his home city. Nothing against Jared Gordon but it was the feel-good moment the card needed given the toxicity of the main event. Iāve thought for a while that Iād rather see Miller call it a day but then you see him here and itās mad how good he still looks when you consider how long heās been at it, his age and how many fights heās had. Look up the card for UFC 89 in Brum, which is the card Miller made his Octagon debut on, and I donāt think thereās another guy on that entire card whoās still fighting. Some of them have been retired a decade or more. And hereās Miller, still going strong at 42 years old and 59 fights deep into his career. You just donāt see longevity like that in MMA, especially in the lighter weight classes. The manās an absolute soldier. Donāt get me wrong, heās clearly past his prime and I wouldnāt wanna see him put in with top ranked Lightweights or dangerous young prospects. But against fellow veterans like Gordon, heās clearly still got the capability to perform well. I still hope he stops soon though. When he was making noises about calling it a day at UFC 300 a couple of years ago, that seemed like the ideal time to bow out. Then he backed off on that talk and now the deadline seems to be āwhen I hit 50 fights in the UFCā, which heās only three away from now. Weāll see. Iāve got a feeling that will come and go and heāll create a new finish line. Mad bastard. He canāt hang on for UFC 400 though. He just canāt. UFC 400 is probably gonna be around 2031/32ish, Miller will be 48/49 then. Surely not. Dana did confirm heās signed a new 5 fight deal though so it looks like heās definitely gonna hit that ā50 UFC fightsā milestone.Ā One last thing on Miller, the stuff about his son beating cancer was great to hear. I only heard the story fairly recently in the run up to this show, but it was really touching to see Miller get to have that moment in his post-fight interview, with his family in attendance, giving a shout out to his boy ākicking the shit out of cancerā. Also saw this great picture on Twitter of Millerās lad⦠Heās obviously every bit the fighter his old man is. This has gotta rank right up there for me when it comes to genuine feel-good MMA moments. Lovely stuff. Roman Kopylov rightly got the decision over Norma Dumontās fella but, Jesus Christ man, Kopylov was so frustrating and baffling to watch here. Similar to Rebecki in the Dawson fight later but even worse because Kopylov had Tulio badly hurt twice, in the second round and again in the third. And both times he let him off the hook by initiating a clinch or takedown for no reason against a guy who was dead on his feet. A real head scratcher. Did Kopylov bet on himself to win on points or something? The finish was there for him on a plate twice and he chose to tie up with him as if he was the one who was hurt and needed to buy time. One of the worst displays of a lack of Fight IQ in recent memory. Just mind boggling. Sabatini vs Gomis got the fast forward x2 treatment from me because lifeās too short. I went in fully expecting a bit of a snoozer and from what I saw thatās exactly what we got. Sabatini winning was the lesser of two evils for me. Not a fan of either but Gomis is a dirty fighter as well as a boring one, whereas Sabatini is just dull but not a cheater. So a small positive in a fight I was otherwise completely indifferent to. Baisangur Susurkaev got the job done again. Stays undefeated and got the finish against a guy whoād never been finished before in Djorden Santos. Still not 100% sold on Susurkaev but so far, so good, I guess. Oh and if you didnāt catch Jose Ochoa vs Clayton Carpenter on the Fight Pass bit, itās worth a look just to see the beautiful performance Ochoa put on. He looked sharp as fuck here. Just a glimpse of it in gif form⦠It was pretty much 15 minutes of stuff like that. Carpenter must be tough as shit because, aside from a couple of brief moments in the grappling, he got nothing done here and took a right beating. The fact he lasted the full three rounds is a testament to his durability. Because Ochoa was putting it on him the whole fight. Love watching Ochoa. Think I bigged him up in the opening post but if you havenāt already Iād really recommend making a point to check out his fights in the future. Donāt let the 2-2 UFC record fool you, heās great to watch. Edited May 15 by wandshogun09 Quote
jimufctna24 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 22 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: Helwani and Strickland have got into a big tedious back and forth on this with Helwani predictably making multiple videos beating the subject to death like the boring little nerd he is. Canāt stand either of them so Iām not gonna take a side. I haven't consumed any of Helwani's content properly in a decade or so. However, from the brief clips I've seen of his show, it's pretty dire and he talks a lot of shite.Ā I recall around 15 years ago, when Helwani was almost universally liked, that one of the Sherdog staffers revealed information about a chat he'd had with Helwani. Apparently Helwani was content to remain stagnant, and didn't really strive to become a better analyst of the sport. In retrospect, that conversation was probably a warning of things to come. 22 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: The worst/funniest thing about Strickland getting a big win like this is all the dopey talk you get from his fans in the fallout. State of shite like this⦠š GSP and Strickland both jab a lot, so therefore they must be similar I guess.Ā 22 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: The only finish heās managed against a top Middleweight was against Whittaker. An admittedly scary performance but thatās one finish out of his last four fights at 185. The condition of Whittaker's teeth probably made the face lock finish appear more devastating than it actually was. Still, a great win for Chimaev though.Ā The warning signs were there in the Burns and Usman bouts that Chimaev wasn't the unbeatable beast that he'd been billed as. Strickland, to his credit, had the defensive grappling to further expose Chimaev's limitations, and did so. Also, unlike Burns and Usman he had 5 rounds to do it in. 25 minute fights will always be more difficult for an energy limited fighter like Chimaev than 15 minute fights.Ā 22 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: So Iām not even sure how effective he is at Middleweight, much less how his game is gonna carry up to 205. As a small Light Heavyweight, is he even gonna be strong and physical enough to get his wrestling going in the same way he did at 170/185? Howās he gone from struggling to make weight at 170, to moving up to 185 and now blaming the weight cut again after just a few fights at that weight? What happens if he loses at 205? Is he off to Heavyweight then? Whatever happens, Iām not sure Iāve ever seen a fighter lose their monster aura quicker than Khamzat has. The drastic weight cut and energy-consuming style of wrestling no doubt contribute to Chimaev's lack of endurance.Ā However, he also has breathing issues due to a childhood accident and has had lingering symptoms after contacting Covid in 2020. I therefore suspect that his cardio issues would transfer over to the heavier weight classes, as well as the other issues you mentioned.Ā Ā Quote
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