Impact Wrestling Discussion and Spoilers 28/9/12

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Im guessing Ray/Sting vs A&8s with Ray turning in the match.

 

This is the first thing I thought after hearing Bischoff stipulate that Hogan couldn't be in the match, and that he had to name two of his "toughest" wrestlers. Especially when you consider that they've been pretty much laying down obvious clues that Ray's involved for weeks.

 

All in all, I've been thoroughly enjoying the shows; I thought it was a shame they turned down Evan Markopoulos when Sam Shaw and Alex Silva were so shite - Markopoulos isn't brilliant, but he showed a lot more than those two. Also, I'm really hoping they do something with this Joey Ryan/Al Snow thing - about six months ago, I'd never have believed I'd want to see Joey Ryan on TV, but he's actually been pretty decent, and I'd like to see him "bring sleazy back" to TNA programming.

 

I'd like TNA to make their teams feel a bit more "permanent" by giving them team names. WWE went through a brief period of just having two names together, and that felt temporary too, which is why I was glad to hear about "Air Bourne" etc. at the time. Guernandez need something - they're a pretty good team, and whilst it might be too easy to stick Hernandez into yet another Latino-themed team, this is still the best thing to do with him right now (also, the women seem to really like him - I suppose he's got that whole porn-star bloke look down). Daniels and Kazarian should've had a team name ages ago, same with Angle/Styles. Didn't like when Joe/Magnus didn't have one either. Overall, I'd like to see the tag-team division get a bit back to its old height - it's a shame Billy Gunn's back with WWE, because I'd have liked to see a last run with NAO/James Gang/VKM.

 

The only thing interesting me about the Tessmacher/Tara feud is the supposed new Hollywood boyfriend who's turned Tara heel. They really need to think of more things to do with Tess, as she's getting rather boring to watch, even in spite of her hotness.

 

Aries/Hardy - have to agree that, despite the potential for a great match, this feud needs something fast, or it will indeed be the worst feud A-dub's had in TNA.

 

Hate to say it, but I'm not really interested in Roode/Storm any more. Think they killed it a bit, though can't quite put my finger on how.

 

TV title - really wanted to see Magnus vs. Joe, to further the feud they have. What I'd have liked to see is Joe win the belt, to really piss Magnus off and drive him to worse things in attacking Joe, it's a great storyline motivation. I liked that they're trying to make Anderson look tough by having him pass out instead of tap, but there's just not enough been done with him to keep any kind of interest any more.

 

And I hope that camera angle on Garett Bischoff's face and his expression when Hogan dismissed him was a little sneaky clue that he might be turning heel. I honestly think he's got potential to improve, but only if he goes the Cody Rhodes route of going villain first. With his dad showing up again, this is the perfect opportunity for that.

[IANdrewDiceClay]

Daniels and Kazarian should've had a team name ages ago

The World Tag Team Champions of the World are a professional wrestling tag team in the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) promotion, consisting of Christopher Daniels and Kazarian.

 

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Daniels and Kazarian should've had a team name ages ago

The World Tag Team Champions of the World are a professional wrestling tag team in the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) promotion, consisting of Christopher Daniels and Kazarian.

 

Did they actually establish that as a team name, rather than just a tag line? It never gets put on any of the graphics.

[IANdrewDiceClay]

The commentators call them it, the announcers call them it, Borash calls them it, Hogan does, its on a t-shirt and it has its own hashtag. That's their team name. Its been their team name since about May.

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Fair enough. I suppose it just didn't feel complete when the graphics didn't have them, and it also has the slightly-bugging quality of raising the question: would they still be called that when they lose the belts? With their characters, I guess they'd continue to claim they were still champs, but my brain just doesn't like having these niggling little gaps.

[IANdrewDiceClay]

and it also has the slightly-bugging quality of raising the question: would they still be called that when they lose the belts?

They've already lost the belts while referring to themselves as the World Tag Team Champions of the World. They mention the word "world" twice in the name, because they say they are "two planets of greatness". They dont call themselves the "TNA WTTCOTW". Them holding the belts is irrelevant to their boast. The name itself isn't supposed to make sense anyway, so the joke is on whoever is trying to question the meaning behind it.

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and it also has the slightly-bugging quality of raising the question: would they still be called that when they lose the belts?

They've already lost the belts while referring to themselves as the World Tag Team Champions of the World. They mention the word "world" twice in the name, because they say they are "two planets of greatness". They dont call themselves the "TNA WTTCOTW". Them holding the belts is irrelevant to their boast. The name itself isn't supposed to make sense anyway, so the joke is on whoever is trying to question the meaning behind it.

 

The meaning of the name isn't beyond me, I was well aware why they'd refer to themselves as that. What I wasn't aware of was that it was their team name, as opposed to a nickname or tag-line, simply because they're always just called Daniels/Kazarian on the match/entrance graphics, and was also not sure as to whether they could call themselves that without the belts - I could've sworn they hadn't referred to themselves as that during their first run; first time I remembered Daniels referring to it was when they'd just won the belts back.

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and it also has the slightly-bugging quality of raising the question: would they still be called that when they lose the belts?

They've already lost the belts while referring to themselves as the World Tag Team Champions of the World. They mention the word "world" twice in the name, because they say they are "two planets of greatness". They dont call themselves the "TNA WTTCOTW". Them holding the belts is irrelevant to their boast. The name itself isn't supposed to make sense anyway, so the joke is on whoever is trying to question the meaning behind it.

Likely the same people who didn't get that 'One Way Ticket to Hell...and Back' was a joke title.

[InvertedSmiley]

Gotta go against what seems to be the consensus here and say that I'm enjoying the build-up to Bound For Glory, and this episode of Impact kicked it up another gear.

 

The Aces and Eights story has become a bit of a farce since Hulk Hogan returned with his over-the-top personna, but I've always believed that the idea was ultimately to get the angle to Bound For Glory to set-up the reveal of the person behind the group, and this show took us in that direction. I don't expect any madcap revelations like Bully Ray being with them all along (if that was true he would have used them to win the Series, surely?) or Abyss siding with them. I think the whole point of Aces and Eights has been to get Eric Bischoff back on television and we'll get that at Bound For Glory once the Aces and Eights pair despatch of Hogan's two guys to win them full access.

 

The seeds were planted for a potential Austin Aries heel turn last week and that was teased further on this show. He displayed a heel-like level of arrogance in the main event and was pissed at Jeff Hardy for taking the win. Add that to his apparent jealousy of Hardy and I reckon we're looking at Aries going mental at Bound For Glory and pulling out all the stops to retain the title.

 

They've already lost the belts while referring to themselves as the World Tag Team Champions of the World.

I'm almost certain that they didn't start using this tag-line until after they beat Angle and Styles for the second time. I think it was before a title defence on Impact some time in August that they demanded that they are now introduced as the World Tag Team Champions of the World.

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Going to the Impact taping this thurs and/or next thurs cant wait.

 

Was a decent show, seems odd that Bully has nout to do for BFG but that could change.

 

Dont mind Bischoff as Aces leader but hope it adds new faces instead of Jarrett, Steiner etc

 

I'll prob be Sting & RVD vs Aces & 8s

 

Samoa Joe as tv champ is a good choice, hes had a good year and could finally make the belt mean something.

 

Hardy vs Aries needs taken up a notch but with two shows to good they could pull it off.

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I don't expect any madcap revelations like Bully Ray being with them all along (if that was true he would have used them to win the Series, surely?)

 

But that's the thing - he did try to, remember? During the episode the TNA roster rumbled with the Aces & Eights, Hardy ended up getting his shoulder badly injured, leading to severe doubt over his match with Bully Ray, and it was only because Hogan had the IZ locked down with the police that they couldn't interfere further in Bully's match to cost Hardy the win.

[InvertedSmiley]

I don't expect any madcap revelations like Bully Ray being with them all along (if that was true he would have used them to win the Series, surely?)

 

But that's the thing - he did try to, remember? During the episode the TNA roster rumbled with the Aces & Eights, Hardy ended up getting his shoulder badly injured, leading to severe doubt over his match with Bully Ray, and it was only because Hogan had the IZ locked down with the police that they couldn't interfere further in Bully's match to cost Hardy the win.

At No Surrender? You're right, I had forgotten about that, largely because I dismissed it in my head with the logic that if Bully Ray did have Aces and Eights behind him then they would have interfered in the rematch on Impact. But then Aces and Eights were locked in/out that night too, weren't they?

 

I think if Bully Ray partners Sting/whoever at BFG then there's a really strong possibility of him turning on his partner, but I kind of hope that doesn't happen. I like Bully Ray on his own and I'd love to see him get a run at the title in the new year.

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I don't expect any madcap revelations like Bully Ray being with them all along (if that was true he would have used them to win the Series, surely?)

 

But that's the thing - he did try to, remember? During the episode the TNA roster rumbled with the Aces & Eights, Hardy ended up getting his shoulder badly injured, leading to severe doubt over his match with Bully Ray, and it was only because Hogan had the IZ locked down with the police that they couldn't interfere further in Bully's match to cost Hardy the win.

At No Surrender? You're right, I had forgotten about that, largely because I dismissed it in my head with the logic that if Bully Ray did have Aces and Eights behind him then they would have interfered in the rematch on Impact. But then Aces and Eights were locked in/out that night too, weren't they?

 

I think if Bully Ray partners Sting/whoever at BFG then there's a really strong possibility of him turning on his partner, but I kind of hope that doesn't happen. I like Bully Ray on his own and I'd love to see him get a run at the title in the new year.

 

This is getting a little more tenuous, but I think a possible scenario would be that he turns and reveals his A&8s allegiance, then he takes a run at the title based on how he's recently beaten AA. Probably wins it too. Then maybe eventually turns face when A&8s get too heavy or something.