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  1. 4 minutes ago, Liam O'Rourke said:

    I remember friends coming to school the Monday after telling me that Pillman pulled out a gun and swore, so I assume it aired in full. 

    Yeah, the issue of Power Slam runs the whole angle down in full with no mention of an edit, so I imagine it went out in full. I know the RTL2 version went out in full, because that's the version I saw. I simply remember thinking "what the fuck is going on here?" Regardless of what your opinion of this angle is, good or bad, for me its the most mind blowing angle in wrestling history. I didnt know what the fuck was happening.

  2. WWF werent fucking nuts didnt it?  It was only a few months before this they were doing a simple "you shagged my wife?!" angle with Bulldog and Shawn Michaels. Then out of the blue Brian Pillman had a gun. In the Jerry Springer era, you can sort of see why some thought it was real. Because TV was so exploitive you wouldnt put it past wrestling to be like "keep the camera rolling while this man murders the other."

    Although, Jerry Springer turned out to be a work just like wrestling, so ...

  3. If Jericho's heart stops from a bad line, and he ends up like Chris Farley all fat and blue on the floor of some shit hole he's pretending to sing in for the vanity of telling people he's a musician, the headline will read "WWE wrestler dies of drug overdose."

    McMahon's a cunt, but whatever the reason for him doing it, he is going to put you in rehab and make sure you dont get the "WWE star dead LOL" treatment. Moxley would have got help if he asked for it.

  4. 1 hour ago, Factotum said:

    He's actually shaved the beard now. He was on WORD IN YOUR ATTIC, which is a video podcast and he actually looks in some of the best shape he's been in in years.

    He does! Looks much younger than his 53 years actually.

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  5. 49 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

    Stew is on Marcus Brigstocke's radio show on jazz fm at the minute if this sort of nonsense is of interest to anyone else.

    I'll give that a listen. They really need to start using updated photos of him. I want to see him as the garden gnome who let himself go.

  6. On 3/19/2017 at 8:06 PM, gmoney said:

    He was actually fairly chunky back in the day, at times. There's a Fist of Fun sketch where he and Rich run naked through a garden and it's Stew who looks worse. He just held it better under his clothes.

    I know I'm a few years out of date with the reply, but fucking hell you're spot on. Doesnt even look like the Stew in the studio minutes later. Herring's in better shape than him throughout this series.

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  7. On 10/12/2021 at 8:02 PM, Mr_Danger said:

    When has Herring said he didn’t think Lee contributed anything to the double act?

    Herring did tell Stew on the podcast that TMWRNJ was actually meant to be Herring and Nick Owen (based on a humourous appearance on Fantasy Football), who got cold feet and dropped out. I've been watching them back the last few days and Herring certainly takes most of it, as if its his gig and Lee is just there as the spider haired pretty one.

  8. 6 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

    That's probably why it worked so well, but these days you could easily pick out the bits that they respectively put in there. That bit in the first TMWRNJ when they were asking for Seinfeld to be put on at sociable hours was Lee all over.

    Absolutely. Think he mentioned the Larry Sanders Show as well, in with that.

  9. 22 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

    He was always the Baddiel of that double act, let's be honest.

    Its funny watching that stuff back, because Herring looks like he desperately wants to be in that 90s catchphrase comedy Cool Britania circle with Baddiel, Skinner, Vic and Bob and all that lot. Where as Stewart Lee looks uncomfortable and stand-offish when Herring is drinking milk out of a hamsters tits at 1 in the afternoon on a Sunday. And you cant do that shit forever. Even though Herring seemingly tries to.

  10. This is the interview Herring mentions, for those interested.

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    "It seems hard to imagine that we did work together now, given that I haven’t really spoken to Richard, aside from during his podcasts when he would ask me to remember things he had done, this century.

     I understand from his appearances on podcasts that he thinks I didn’t really contribute anything to the double act anyway so I don’t know how or why it worked. I know I wrote some of the material as it was based on my personal experience, opinions, interests, and sad memories of my own family, but he may be right. Certainly my individual popularity and success as a stand-up initially lead to us both being signed by Avalon, but I am not sure that was a very good result for either of us in the end anyway.

     I think there was an adolescent dynamic at work, probably based on how we saw ourselves as teenagers, that limped on into our 20s, but I don’t think there was much more you could have done with it as adults. Certainly there was no financial incentive for me to continue with the double act as on balance the double act lost money because the tours ate up anything else we made in debts to Avalon promotions and everything I made from the 90s was from the stand-up circuit or writing for other people. (After that, Avalon produced Jerry Springer The Opera and lost millions in much the same way) I think I was good at hanging back live and providing Richard with the opportunity to be excessive – he sort of plays chicken with notions of taste – that I would then reign in at the last possible point, like a police dog handler, but I don’t think I was able to transfer over many of the skills I developed in the stand-up.

     I was doing stand-up 5 nights a week for most of the 90s, which was where my heart lay and was always where I saw my future, ever since seeing Ted Chippington at the age of 16. But I tour around the country there is always someone in the merch queue that wants a Fist of Fun book signed so it does seem to be fondly remembered by some older people. I can’t really remember much about it to be honest. I hated the production style of the second series of Fist of Fun and just remember being very stressed by the two live series. The other performers in all of our TV stuff were very good – especially Kevin and Paul and Pete Baynham.

     I am ashamed that I strip-mined my family’s lives for a lot of material in This Morning With Richard Not Judy without thinking what that might feel like. As a parent I understand them better now but they are all dead. The Lee and Herring live dvd was badly produced by Avalon which was a shame as we did sometimes get quite a hysteria going live and that isn’t documented anywhere, although the bit of my stand-up act on that is quite interesting. Rich worked very hard and was very conscientious but I don’t think he had much of an ear for tonality or musicality and wasn’t interested in learning from other practitioners or in finding out about areas of culture outside his immediate sphere, although I think that very insularity might have helped him to consolidate his podcaster character, which has proved an effective and lucrative way for him to maintain both his profile and his independence. I am the opposite. Maybe that was what was good about it. I am glad I had a second chance in life to do things I was happier with. I have been very lucky."

     

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