andrew "the ref" coyne

59 minutes ago, Infinity Land said:

They went public in 1999. Most of the playboy shoots. GGW PPV, The Kat flashing, HLA all happened as a publicly traded company. It was simply chasing the cash from sponsors that changed their approach since most teen boys found actual porn by early/mid 2000s.

I stand corrected *tips hat*

1 hour ago, RIDDUM_N_STYLE said:

Wasn’t just that, it was the pics in the shower with Tino as well, somehow word got out to Mattel, one of WWE’s main merch partners, and that’s what broke it

The whataboutism around this is dumb as well, digging out Ronda Rousey and Charlotte Flair for their ESPN shoots and bringing up the Saraya sex tape row again even though the former two were professionally done and tasteful and the latter was leaked as revenge porn essentially 

There was also a video of her grinding her boyfriend in just their underwear, and another of her with her hands down her knickers simulating masterbating. She was really pushing the envelope.

And yeah the whataboutisms on Twitter have been stupid. It's not the same as the ESPN shoot, it's not the same as Sarayas revenge porn, and it's not even the same as 20 year old playboy shoots when the company was targeting a completely different demo as a private company.

Truth is both sides of the argument are right imo. She totally pushed her luck and breached her contract... AND wwe are scummy hypocrites who support abusers.

Regardless Mandy Rose has won at life. She's making half a million a month. Fuck her wwe contract and wwe. Long may she chill by the pool with Otis while swimming in money.

It's been interesting reading how some people think the roster will work with ROH.

I kind of like the idea of it being a sink or swim scenario for midcarders. I think you're going to need SOME names in their if you want people to sign up to Honor Club, but overall the  idea of it being a home for talented guys who are on the fence when it comes to getting over could be a way to use it.

Yeah, you're guaranteed to see some technically competant to great matches, and if one guys happens to get over, GREAT, you can move them over to AEW in the future and talk about their 8 month ROH Championship reign. 

So one thing that has me quite interested is that now that ROH will have it's own show, this means they can get ROH off the main AEW shows and start focusing on making both brands worthwhile.

Tony Khan has a shed ton of talent, from jobbers to guys worthy of a decent spot, but who goes where?

Does anyone here have a "10 ten wrestlers I'd like drafted to ROH",  or is there anyone key you'd like to see shifted to ROH?

Personally I'd like to see Keith Lee get a strong singles focus on ROH, eventually building to a Samoa Joe TV title show down, and maybe even put Hangman Adam Page over to ROH to give him a bit of a change of scenery. 

I was a bit disappointed with the Young Bucks / Undisputed split. I know some stuff has been sizzling underneath, but nothing to justify a ouright assault. Like what is the motivation for this?

Also disbanding Team Taz JUST as a trios tournament was coming (sad face  )

I just have to say, it's a small small thing, but I LOVE how Regal keeps referring to Moxley as THE aew champion. Not interim, just... THE champion.

The fact that Moxley then drove that point home in his Jericho promo this past week... it's fantastic. The build for Moxley as this fighting champ is great. 

When Punk returns, the inevitable match up will be great. I hope they replicate that scene from WWE when Punk came out with the true championship and went face to face with Cena. Be typical Kahn to go "I like this, but I can do it better".

Hell do the reverse of it. Have Punk return, only for Moxley to come out and Punk to do the "look of doubt on his face" spot. 

5 hours ago, JimmyAnderson said:

Can they keep Wardlow's momentum going or will he fall off a cliff and start a pointless feud with Lance Archer. And can they retain MJF's heat or saddle him with another string of cheap shots at Brian Pillman.

I can already tell you Wardlow is gonna fall off a cliff sadly. Whenever he has a overlong match the crowd goes super mild. The chase and storyline is great, but after that... I have zero faith.

Real shame. I hope Im wrong.

With Ember Moon it's so much worse than that. I recommend you listen to this interview.

She tells of story of blatant marginalisation and being royally fucked around, and deeply ingrained misogynistic behaviour towards her.

Although this is  very much reading between the lines, it's almost like the mentality is "well I wouldn't shag her, so why would we put her on the main roster?"

It's incredibly gross.
 

5 hours ago, Louch said:

I just want a recording of the meeting where he told Cody to take his castrated dog a walk back up north. Stats optional 

Okay Cody, here is the percentage of people who hate your neck tattoo, and here is the percentage of people I want watching my product.  Do you see the massive overlay?

5 hours ago, Jonny Vegas said:

I think if Vince decides he's getting the World Title then maybe theres a chance of him keeping up his momentum.

I reckon keep up that "big deal" aspect till Summerslam then have him lose to Roman Reigns. 

Then give him the IC belt and send him home.

On 4/5/2022 at 7:49 PM, BomberPat said:

Cody leaving AEW came down to money and creative control - he'd had a lot of the latter taken away when Tony Khan became more heavily involved, and when he wanted to renegotiate his contract, he was asking for the same money as CM Punk. I've heard stories of Tony Khan literally showing Cody the breakdown of the ratings between Cody segments and Punk segments and saying, "this is why you don't make CM Punk money". 

If true, I wonder if this is why he suddenly pulled that ridiculous CM Punk promo out of his where he moaned "I'm the real game changer" as some odd ball way to build a fued for someone else entirely.

But yeah... Cody heel turn was the biggest missed opportunity ever. The CM Punk / Cody fued practically wrote itself.

Punk: "Dude. You're the world's biggest hypocrite. You're smashing Triple H thrones but promoting yourself over other much more deserving talent. You give yourself the biggest pyro, you have a whole segment to announce your wife is pregnant, you're using AEW as a platform to promote shitty reality shows and you always position yourself to have a featured spot on shows at the expense of others. Dick off."

Cody: *Hits him with a golden shovel and tries to bury him alive the following week.*
 

5 hours ago, Chris B said:

If his stuff over the last year (in particular) had hit, then that'd have been one thing - but instead, his feud with Ogogo shit the bed...

Yes... but he solved racism by shagging his hot black wife.

5 hours ago, Sphinx said:

Agreed on Wardlow. He's Batista/Goldberg-lite.

Having said that, I didn't really get the fuss about Batista when he was first coming through either.

Im worried about him too. I want him to succeed, but I've seen matches where he comes in, the crowd is hot, then it gets super cold until he starts hitting powerbombs.

Personally I would of given him the TNT belt and have MJF contractually force him to hand it over, would of got amazing heat, but it looks like were on the path now that we are on.

3 hours ago, air_raid said:

The post I was replying to. To which you then replied, telling me I couldn’t deny something which I wasn’t. Read it again.

 

Gotcha

On 3/16/2022 at 12:48 AM, air_raid said:

 I do deny what was posted....

All I said was:

"Another I'd like to see...

The curtain call dosent happen.

As a result Triple H wins the 1996 KOTR instead of Austin."

What are you denying?!?!?

43 minutes ago, air_raid said:

Hunter was in the main event before he was dating Steph.

Yeah but you can't deny there would of be a massive shift as to how his future would of played out both inring and as a exec.

No NXT Gold! Imagine that!

Another I'd like to see...

The curtain call dosent happen.

As a result Triple H wins the 1996 KOTR instead of Austin.

Just for the curiosity of the aftermath, Bret Hart figures out what the fuck is going on at Survivor Series vs Shawn Michaels and shoot pins / submits him to retain the championship. 

9 hours ago, Version1.0 said:

True, considering the current nXt UK Champion isn't even in WWE 2K22, despite being champion for over 200 days.

Actually he will be... he's due for one of the pending DLCs.

1 hour ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

The PAC match was only thrown on because the title match ended early

Psst.... wrestling isn't real.

It's weirdly ingenious. Kahn was the best man to buy it. Simply because a man with way too much talent under contract goes on to buy a established brand with no talent. 

The next ROH show will be incredible. Use a few AEW with links to ROH, contract a few of the more established current ROH talent, and then fill it with the underused talent.

I just hope he gets other people to run it and dosent so any fueding bollocks. Keep it civil between the brands. 

Anyway... Whose up for CM Punk vs Samoa Joe in ROH?

2 hours ago, WyattSheepMask said:

 

Oooh, watch out everyone, Austin Aries has something to say. And you’re not complex, you’re just a wanker

What will happen when not even #TYPOS matter anymore?

Considering ROH will come with no talent, it would be an interesting acquisition for a promotion with a bloated roster.

Be like a brand split but handled properly.

The Rant room?!? There is no way in hell someone like Austin Aries is going to sit there and listen to a angry fan tell him "he's shit".

1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

Yeah, it was certainly an attempt at it and I didn't rate it, nor did the casual audience. They took so long to move Page into the top spot that by the time he got there his beer was flat. What did they achieve by it? He's currently the worst champion they've ever had, in feuds with midcarders whilst the big stars (Mox, Bryan, Punk, MJF) fight amongst themselves in hotter matches. 

One thing we need to take into account is that the death of Brodie Lee and Covid really messed a lot of this up and extended the eventual championship win. Im not sure you can lay all the blame at the feet of AEW on this one.

Personally I disagree with you (though respect where you're coming from). I felt it had extra layers if you watched all the additional stuff but there was still enough story to enjoy if you didn't. Heck ratings have still been decent on the whole, he gets a hell of a pop and had cracking matches with Daniel Bryan and Lance Archer so far. 

I do get a bit of a "we've ran out of ideas" vibe from AEW at times, but that's not directly related to Hangman.