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  1. Doomsday (2008)

    The trailer alone made me never want to see this. It was pretty clear that Neil Marshall is one of those directors that completely loses the plot when they have access to a bigger budget. Dog Soldiers was fucking amazing, Descent was alright, but really overrated. If it had been men instead of pretty women, the reviews wouldn't have been half as good. "Ooh, it were all a dream!" But then you get a trailer where there's a ridiculously attractive woman who's the ultimate slow-mo, jiggling boobies killing machine - right up there with superbrainy scientists played by Tara Reid in glasses - who says "nice car, I'll take it!" or whatever that Godawful line was at the end of the trailer. I know trailers are mostly out of the hands of the director and often portray the film differently than it actually is, but dreadful lines like the ones in the Doomsday trailer wouldn't have been in there if they hadn't been written and used in the film.I'll probably rent it someday, but that was the first trailer that made me go from being excited about a director to saying "fuck this guy."
    Isn't it hugely tongue in cheek though? That's the impression I got, that it's a British Escape from New York, or Mad Max 2. Over the top, camp, completely insane plot, but just good old fashioned entertainment.Incidentally, I don't think Descent was overrated, I think it was a really high quality work, and a step up from the low-budget feel of Dog Soldiers. It wouldn't have worked with an all-male cast, as men react differently to women in such situations - a lot of the really unpleasant stuff in that film came from seeing the "friends" basically sacrificing each other in an attempt to escape themselves.If Doomsday does turn out to be a "serious" film, then I reserve the right to hate it, mind you :p
  2. Really for me, the great mystery of 9/11 is how people can watch, live on tv, 2 huge planes full of fuel thump into the heart of New York city and go "I wonder if that did enough damage?" I swear someone could Senate Building in Washington and there'd be someone on the internet who'd complain that the Washington monument falling over is suspicious.A friend of mine got really into the whole 9/11 conspiracy stuff, even going so far as to organise an event about it where people discussed it, showed films etc. I sat through a 2 hour film about the whole thing, and then fell out spectacularly with him after I remained unpersuaded.2 months later he had a severe mental breakdown and spent 3 months in a mental institution, and has never fully recovered since. In retrospect, the compulsive fascination with conspiracy theories was a warning sign of his mental deterioration.

  3. A little research on the internet will reveal that the impact of the plan on the Pentagon is entirely consistent with what one would expect from a plane that size and a crash like that.

     

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    Bearing in mind it's a reinforced concrete building apparently designed to withstand a nuclear attack... that's a lot of damage. It may not add up to you, Kenny, but it adds up to the exeprts in structural engineering and air crash investigation, and that's good enough for me.

     

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    I've found a good site for you, from the un-conspiracy/debunk site Popular Mechanics:

     

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology...842.html?page=6

     

    The problem is that rumour is much more compelling than fact, and so rumours will circulate a lot more widely than the more prosaic reality of a situation.

     

    This is compounded by a more basic human instinct - the desire to believe someone is in charge. It's why the concept of God/gods has been so prevalent in human society. Early man sees the sun rise in the morning and think "someone must have done that". We see the World Trade Centre destroyed in a random and violent act of mass murder and think "There must be more to this, there must be some grand scheme behind all this" It's hard to accept that all that death was achieved with a couple of knives and a flight schedule. Conspiracy theorists love to link together unrelated information, weaving a web of control with some sort of shadow government at the centre, because the reality that the world is a chaotic and ungovernable place is just too hard for them.

     

    Governments are as guilty of this as us - the US has justified its entire foreign policy be creating this concept of a unified, organised Al Qaeda, as it's easier to fight a proper enemy than accept that there are many small, dispirate groups of people, loosely connected by their shared hate of western capitalism.

  4. I find it ironic that Loki is posting about Hoaxes

    :confused: ---Tough luck, Woyzeck. It's all a bit of a laugh though, really, I can't see they did too much wrong. The only harm is that people who are genuinely intelligently interested in such things, like yourself, are tainted by association with the story. That's why my initial stance (and that of the reputable scientific community) is always sceptical - there's just too much history of fraud in the area of Bigfoot.Woyzeck, what's your take on the Patterson-Gimlin film?
  5. Good thread, and I'm very sympathetic to Woyzeck (who I realise now is Sickboy??). I really want to believe.BUT but but, the problem is that whilst I firmly believe that there are plenty of things out there which are not currently documented or explained in mainstream science, the whole area of Fortean, cryptozoology etc is just awash with fraudsters, kooks, criminals, wackos and zealots. Trying to tease out any valid argument or evidence from the sea of shit is extremely difficult. One main problem is that these conspiracy/Fortean ares of interest seem to attract devotees who are neither particularly bright or particularly discerning, and so incorrect information and rumour circulates almost endlessly on the internet.Even those who have the appearence of proper scientific rigour often let you down. I was hugely influenced by Fingerprints Of the Gods by Graeme Hancock when it was first published, but for all its elegance and seductive science it was basically a big load of bullshit, as even he has now admitted. Same with Bob Dean, elder statesman of UFO investigation. I head him talk at Manchester Uni in 96 (I have the recording if anyone wants it), but over the years his fascinating story has been slowly teased apart by more rigorous debunkers.There are a few things that I still hold onto though. I believe the Great Pyramid at Giza and the Sprinx are a lot older than currently dated, and point to the mouth-watering prospect that civilization is a lot older than we think. I believe that Mokele-Mbembe is out there, and is quite possibly a fragmentary population remnant of a long-thought extinct hominid species. But I don't buy this Bigfoot discovery. There is too much flimflammery and drip-feed information, too much carny about the whole thing. If they had anything real, they would have had it rigorously tested by top men (top men) by now, and the whole thing would be out in the open. As Woyzeck said, we're halfway to the Hamptons.EDIT: "However, since their discovery, Whitton and Dyer have started offering weekend bigfoot search expeditions in Georgia for $499." This is why they are still stretching out the reveal. As long as they don't produce a body, there will be people who not only believe them, but will pay 500 dollars a pop to be driven out into the bush to look at some trees.

  6. Great publicity for their business though. There are enough kooks out there who'd believe this to keep them in customers for years.

     

    I love a bit of cryptozoology, but the whole idea of Bigfoot being out there is preposterous. Firstly, there's no fossil evidence to suggest any great ape species has ever lived in the American continent (apart from us). Secondly, no bodies have ever been discovered, indeed apart from the occasional out-of-place hair no physical evidence at all. Thirdly, given that all other species living in those areas have been long identified, and those areas are at least intermittently visited by hunters, etc, it seem highly unlikely that an animal as large and dominant as a great ape would remain undocumented.

     

    My personal belief is that Bigfoot is a race memory passed from the Native Americans to the newer Anglo-saxon population of Gigantopithecus, huge bipedal apes who co-existed with early man and who probably gave rise to our many myths of giants, ogres, etc.

     

     

    EDIT: it looks like it's this costume in a freezer box.

  7. I loved it from start to finish, if that's any help Rick. I can't find my post on it though as Search is still fucked for me.On the ending, I'll pose this for you to think about. When does anything ever really come to an end? For most of the characters left alive in that film, life will go on. Chigurh is a professional hitman that will continue to do his job. Only for Tommy Lee Jones' character have things really come to an end - disillusioned with his ability to change anything for the better, he's retired and faces a long slow deterioration to death. His only solace is that all old men go through this at the end of their life, when they have ceased to have anything to give society - hence the title, No Country For Old Men.The book is the last of a trilogy, and as such its ending wraps up a whole metaphysical contemplation of the changing nature of life on the old Frontier in America, so what you get in the screen version is a conclusion to a far longer story, if you will, than is actually present in the film.

  8. Who? I only remember it because Miss Robinson asked if he'd ever won anything, and he said "I was World Champion" with this huge look of embarrassment as he knew that it sounded ridiculous and had obviously one some local fed's "World" championship which now seemed rather a hollow victory when relating it to a huge audience of non-wrestling fans.

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