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Can't find the original thread (Search is shit imo), so whatever happened to Raven's lawsuit against WWE?

2nd account. Yeah, that'll turn people's opinions around. Taking a looong run up to next year's awards I see.

I'm already hating JLM's new sig.

Where the fuck is Tomko?

When you get the occasional Just Me post that is actually serious I find myself re-reading it to see where I missed the subtle pun until I realise there wasn't one....

Same here - it's like if Harry Hill appeared on a panel show and just made serious points with no laffs. Even if what Just Me posts is interesting, I feel disappointed it's not funny.

Carbomb. A good poster who I'm glad to see back.

It's not enough to be knowledgeable, you also need to actually be able to have a back and forth discussion and remain on-topic, something some of the more egotistical members seem to find very hard.

As a point of order, does it make sense for someone to be both in a Best Poster poll, and Most Underrated? Surely that's a contradiction...

Cheers for the nomination though, that's sweet.

Famous Mortimer. I don't agree with him at least 50% of the time, but he's interesting to discuss and debate with, puts forward well-thought out arguments, and understands that a different opinion doesn't make for an enemy. A rarity on the internet.

Mab, because even though he makes the occasional effort to improve, once every few months he spectacularly throws it all away with a day-long spaz out. Plus his massive over-posting annoys me - like getting the first post in each of these voting threads. It's obsessive, a bit like his extremely unhealthy interest in a pregnant/post-preggers board member.

What's the deal with the Indian Lake Project then? Is it just a blog hoax, or a viral for a film?

I'm putting Showdown in Little Tokyo on my Xmas wishlist. That sounds great.

And they say the Devil has all the best tunes...

http://kotaku.com/5090070/christian-guitar-hero-the-trailer

I can't see it being high on Obama's list of priorities right now, considering the international banking crisis, a recession, 2 wars and the impending climate Armageddon.

How on earth is Katy Perry an unconventional beauty?

Exactly, Wodge. Everyone knows the gays don't like Columbo.

Biggles is a bit shit, from what I remember.

I echo the praise for Miller's Crossing, a simply superb film. I really like Fargo too, though, so take that for what it's worth.

"Eeeuh ma gorsh it's eh you eff euhhh!"

Credible witnesses

It's supposed to be a mess.

It's mainly teenage girls with sawdust for brains. Transformers was completely spoilt for me by the wannabe wags behind me giggling and commenting their way through the film, until I broke with the usual British demeanour and asked them to be quiet, politely. When 5 minutes later they were still at it, I stood up and loudly told them to shut the fuck up or I'd get management to kick them out. Luckily the shock of someone actually telling them off shocked them into relative silence, but of course by then it had fucked up my enjoyment of what was meant to be a nice nostalgic trip. Even my wife got involved, that's how annoying they were.

A large bunch of childrens' balloons?

And stop fucking double posting. You're not twice as interesting as everyone else, you're half.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this, I'm trying to talk about the larger picture of debate on this subject and you keep missing the point. Clearly I can't debrief Kenny in person to the level I'd like, as he's a poster on the fucking internet! I have already said that, taking his sighting as an example, and assuming as I have repeatedly said that he passes the sort of criteria you mentioned which obviously would be the first points of elimination, assuming for the sake of our hypothetical Kenny witness that he was neither drunk, blind or a lunatic, and a person in full possession of faculties, and therefore a reliable witness, the sort of motion he was describing is strongly indicative of a man-made object. I can't believe I actually have to take you step by step through this, can't we assume some level of intelligence on the part of other people in discussions on this forum?Moving back to the larger point I'm making, there are a number of extremely reliable and often qualified observers who have reported observations that cannot be ruled out as a cloud in the sky or marsh gas or whatever. As these collate together, they form a body of observational data that I think is extremely interesting, particularly as you look at similarities in the reports. Outside of a smoking gun of actually being handed the keys to Area 51 or whatever, all we have to go on is witness evidence that must of course be sifted and critically examined. I do not think it a large leap of logic or feasibility to suggest a hypothesis that these witnesses may in fact have seen man-made craft of types relatively unknown to the public, rather than them being liars, crazy or simply dismissed as kooks. Clearly you think differently, I accept that.

Clearly, it was marsh gas igniting ;)This is the thing, we're not all stupid. The fast changes in motion of objects like the one you saw are a common element of sightings and basically rule out the normal debunk theories. Assuming it's not little green men, then it's a man-made craft, either manned or unmanned, and at that point it's just a question of who made it and why.

See, it's that logical leap that means things that genuinely defy explanation get thrown out along with the nonsense. Absence of one sort of explanation does not automatically mean another sort of explanation is accurate. The movement Kenny described might be from a man (or alien) made craft, or it might not. But it's not certain, just because the sight he saw was unusual. Do you know for certain that nothing naturally occuring could create a vision like Kenny saw in the sky? Are you that prepared, from the paragraph of evidence Kenny gave you, to rule out all the "normal debunk theories" and go straight to some unknown sort of man-made craft?I'm aware I sound like an apologist for the status quo (not the band Status Quo, they're rubbish). I'm not, I'm just a healthy skeptic about second-hand information "definitely" being anything, especially when it's a long way outside what we currently know about science. I don't think there's anything wrong with holding bizarre occurrences to a higher level of proof than normal ones. Like the Bigfoot thing that started this thread, that I said was bullshit and turned out, indeed, to be bullshit. Like virtually every single UFO sighting in the history of the human race. Someone going "oh, a light moving in a weird way, must be some craft created in secret by the Government" is just starting from square one when there's already been tons of research done on this topic.

I saw a UFO once. There was a very bright light in the sky, completely stationary, like a star but about 4 or 5 times the size. If I remember right, it was white, then kinda blue-green, then white again. Suddenly it dropped almost to the horizon, stopped then shot off to the right at a ridiculous speed before vanishing. Each movement took only a split second, so it wasn't a shooting star, and the stop and the right angle move were certainly not natural.I have no idea what it was, but if anyone has any ideas, let me know.

Man, do I love the creepy gnome. My favourite Fortean stories are by far those weird one-off ones, as opposed to the big sweeping subgenres like UFOs or ghosts. It's also a great look into the cultural belief of other countries, when stuff like India's monkeyman and the Popabawa bat-rapist of Indonesia are believed in by so many people. One of my favourite youtube prank clips is a really fake looking skeleton riding a bike through the streets of Brazil, cackling and saying (through speakers) it was going to take everyone to hell, with everyone who sees it shitting themselves. If that happened in England, people would just idly throw cans of Redbull at it.

Cool!Sadly, as you say the existence of an "alternative" take of the video exposes it as a fake. Scary though.