Hannibal Scorch

12 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said:

AEW fans are like Trump fans. Tony Khan could shit on the entrance stage and they’d cheer them.

I don’t think you realise how many AEW fans don’t like Tony Khan. Even here on the forum that’s the case. But it’s the internet wrestling community a place where many WWE fans openly support Vince despite the allegations so I shouldn’t be surprised.

22 minutes ago, quote the raven said:

Oh what a cluster that had Khan fearing for his life? 

 

Not the same incident 

Punk fans are like Trump fans. He could shit on the entrance stage and they’d cheer him. @RedRooster not sure what you mean about the chants following the bucks around, that pretty much happened after Brawl Out anyway. 

Whilst you all just want to watch the juicy bit, I recommend the whole segment to at least give some context

As to the rest of the show, Copeland vs Penta was a real surprise in quality, he’s really got his work boots on now he’s in AEW. I’m going to watch hour 2 in the morning.

“ Sometimes you can’t let someone get close. I didn’t punch anybody I just choked someone a little bit”

If you thought/think Punks a saint or that he’s the man, you probably still do. If you think Punk is unprofessional and a man baby, this confirmed it. It also confirmed he lied about Jack Perry’s actions. He tried to sucker him, he failed to choke him for more then 2 seconds and Jack never squared up to Punk. Now we know, now we move on. I thought both the Bucks and FTR did great work here weaving it into the PPV match and I assume the next blood and guts with the return of Jack Perry.

53 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

It's fucking own one where we can all ignore it.

Genuine question, Do you actually watch any AEW or you just here for making quips?  

25 minutes ago, JLM said:

- Chris Jericho. 

Chris Jericho since 2023, absolutely. I do think it was a savvy pick up at the time. Remember this was pre Mox, pre Danielson, pre Punk, Pre Cole. He was a WWE guy, at the top for many years, it was a great statement of intent.

But yes, he needs to go and while he’s continually featured, it makes Tony’s booking stupid.

20 minutes ago, RedRooster said:

I promise I’m not trying to catch you out or be an arse here, but could you list three negative traits you’ve noticed in Tony Khan, specifically in relation to his booking or handling of talent? 

For someone who likes my posts, that’s a weird thing to ask, because he’s a flawed guy. I think he is unfairly treated overall (especially compared to how the other place has been run), but he’s not faultless.

- Women’s division. Yes it’s getting better now but for ages it was the 21:20 - 21:40 segment. A match, maybe a promo, that’s your lot. 
 

- Talent Relations. we’ve seen wrestlers released who have found out from dirt sheets because no one could be bothered to call them. That’s not how you treat people.

- Freedom. What does an EVP do? What do you mean you’re not happy with that angle, call you with new ideas next month? Backstage can be chaotic (ignoring the punch ups), it does seem to be they need more structure. Tony Khan wants to be hands on with everything, stretching himself to thin. Though I think Punk has turned out to be a bit of a prick, I can imagine that a lot of his comments made in that interview about the backstage of AEW were accurate. It definitely needs to have a better structure.

Do you want to give me 3 things you like about the current AEW landscape or is that a bit too Cody/Rock belt swap?

6 hours ago, RedRooster said:

I think that’s reading into something that isn’t there at an extreme level, I’m afraid. In reference to the tweet, the only ‘layer’ that exists is a thin layer of skin that has caused Tony Khan to do this. I 

We’re really going to discuss who has the thinnest skin in wrestling? At this rate I’d put £5 on Tony ”Dweeby” Khan being able to take down Philip “Fragile Ego, Fragile Body” Brookes. And one has the look of Mr Burns physic, but the other has the mobility of him.

2 hours ago, Chili said:

I think airing the footage unless it's something absolutely extraordinary (given we know most of the thing it won't be) is a waste of time you could use for a promo, or a new talent.

It’s a fan theory, but think it makes a lot of sense

2 hours ago, andrew "the ref" coyne said:

I think the main thing that disappointed me is that I would of liked to of seen Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens involved in that final match too. In fact I would of preferred them over the legends (though im probably in the minority here). They were so much more involved in the two year storyline and would of closed their arcs off nicely. 

 

No, I said the same to my mate yesterday. What they gave us was nostalgia pops, which are seemingly bad in every other medium bar wrestling. But if all the people who had challenged Roman and got screwed of a win, were involved to help Cody win, that would have been a far better way for Cody to finish his, but also Romans, story. 

6 hours ago, Lorne Malvo said:

Not sure if I've got the dreaded Cove or some other godforsaken illness, but I've been absolutely fucked since Friday night. Shaking like a shitting dog despite wearing about 6 layers. Can't stop coughing, even moreso at night. Throat is in agony, struggling to speak. Bunged up, dodgy stomach, and the worst part of it all is a constant chest/heart pain which makes me convinced I'm going to get rushed into A+E at any given point. 

Sick of it.

Had this since Thursday. I think it’s the Flu as I was the only idiot in the house who didn’t get their flu vaccine and everyone else has been fine.

Mania used to be 4/5 hours, for years. But now they’ve seen what a cash cow it is, 2 nights are here to stay.

9 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said:

AEW just trying to suck up some clout from WWE's biggest weekend ever. 

There was a hell of a lot of AEW discourse from WWE talent during WrestleMania week. It does make me wonder if (Nick) Khan is trying to do something with (Tony) Khan about this open relationship. It’s clear there is talent who are in AEW now who, now Vince is gone, want to go back, maybe some talent exchanges wouldn’t go a miss*. I mean I don’t think that was what Nick was referencing exactly but wrestling is a funny place at the moment.

*not CM Punk though.

2 hours ago, Nick James said:

 

How can you embarrass a man that pretty much everyone knows is a prick? What is it going to prove, that Punk isn't a tough guy? We already know this. That Punk has an overinflated ego? Again, already know this. 

Other than a ratings ploy, which I don't think will actually work, what is the point? 

Still think they should actually do a bait and switch and have Wee M Punk getting battered by the Bucks in a GTV style grainy CCTV footage.

I wouldn’t take Cultaholic too seriously. Whilst the dirt sheets are saying it’s definitely the Punk footage AEW haven’t said it once. I would assume this is probably something to do with FTR and the Bucks. If it is the Punk footage, it’s got to be because it’s embarrassing for him, otherwise why would they? Only 36 hours to find out I guess.

17 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

Where did I say anyone was wrong?

You didn’t, and I wasn’t suggesting you did, if that wasn’t clear I apologise. You did call some of us mad, but that’s by the by.

@SuperBaconMox is very much enjoying his life, most Wednesdays and Saturdays and some random days inbetween. I don’t think WWE could pay him enough to return because he values his freedom to much.

19 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

I didn't get that The Rock was turning babyface from that segment at all. Did I watch the wrong one? He called everyone trailer trash, put undertones of threats throughout the segment, and then ended it with a thinly veiled gesture that he's got something on Rhodes. You're all mad.

Surely when something is ambiguous it’s the viewers interpretation? It’s clear some agreed with my view and some with yours and I’m not going to tell you that you’re wrong. 
 

Great post @air_raid, especially the point about feeding families. Confused me to and I think you explained it cromulently.

18 minutes ago, Joe Blog said:

It seemed to be a very subtle beginning of a face turn for The Rock. His socials were all about how good a guy he is really over the last few months, seems daft if that is what they are going to do after how good the Final Boss character has been/could be. 

I didn’t think it was gradual, I think he went from heel to face within that whole exchange. I was surprised at the shift so soon, but like I said with X8, Hogan went from literally trying to kill The Rock in his car, to being mates the Raw after Mania™

18 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

I think RAW after Wrestlemania is less of a thing now that Wrestlemania is two nights long anyway.

 

I dunno, it was a trending hashtag last night, so it’s definitely pushed as such.

Anyway just for davynumbs i had to watch it. Very interesting to see them start the first pro wrestling era show with one of the longest in ring segments ever. I’m glad Cody got all the appreciation, he deserves it. Nice video package too.
 

I think we were all expecting The Rock to come down to kick some arse or set up the next stage. Instead it reminded me (from memory) of The Raw After WrestleMania™ from X8 where Hulk came out to go face. It didn’t feel very boss/heel like by the end so I was a bit confused as to where his character fits now. “You don’t need to open your hand to know what is in it. Don’t break my heart again”. WTF IS THAT?

Surprised to see Shin being used in a squash for Dragunov. Fun segment with Awesome Truth/Cena and the losers of Judgement Day. That faction can’t last much longer can it?

The production the whole weekend was fantastic, and demonstrated here by a quick slap of Dom’s hand. AEW had a great advantage here by not having Kevin Dunn’s rapid fire camera cuts, now it looks like normal wrestling again.

Somethings from the Vince era will never change 

Michael (not a hostage) Cole announced 201,924 WWE fans attended Mania weekend. Selling that many tickets over a weekend is impressive. Trying to make out all those were individual people, less so. But hey, Roman Reigns beat the record of headlining WrestleMania main events by being in 2 this year. One show spread over 2 nights. WWE MATHS MF!

Taking out my utter disgust at the new era (he also narrates the numpers, Ego has landed) from a moral point of view, it’s gonna be a fun ride it seems. Enjoy it folks.

1 hour ago, DavidB6937 said:

Honestly thought it couldn't get any better and then I read Scorchy isn't watching anymore? Best few days ever!

Oh no I was just going to try and have an early night. But I read this and as you’re like my metaphorical pile, I’ve had to change my view, swallow my disgust at the focus of the enablers running things and popped Raw on. I’ll give my thoughts tomorrow buttercup. 

6 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

Went on Twitter earlier and wondered why the fuck 'bisexual Undertaker' was trending.

 

HA! It was trending last night I just assumed you saw it.

15 minutes ago, Frankie Crisp said:

 

Good job you won’t have to worry about any of this bothering you again, knowing you’ve stopped watching it.

3 minutes ago, FLips said:

There’s a video clip doing the rounds now of Roman with a big beaming smile as he eats the pin and then another of a long embrace with Heyman at the top of the ramp and it really makes you appreciate how happy he must be with the run. He finally after years of trying gets over as “the guy” and almost single handedly elevates the company out of one of the dullest periods in it’s history, through the tail end of a pandemic and a barrage of allegations during the #MeToo movement and the Vince stuff that saw the company (rightfully) take a shit load of flack. He makes stars out of a bunch of people on the roster, has the longest run as champ in modern history and carries the company on his shoulders for over 3 years. Now finally, when the product has never been hotter and the company filled with stars, he can finally pass the torch and relieve the weight and stress. Must be so overwhelming.

It wouldn’t shock me if he retires tonight

Just to clarify, I think she over reacts, because she does. But that’s clearly what they want. And because I think she’s dreadful (and a few others) doesn’t matter cos it’s just a fucking preference. Glad if you agree, glad if you disagree, it’s all opinions.

The main takeaway from Mania 40 is Cody, whether you like him as a wrestler or not, got to live out his childhood dream and as he’s the nicest man in wrestling, deserves it.

6 minutes ago, Supremo said:

The best. When it’s good it’s fucking great.

It can’t be, no one’s called it Cinema on here yet