Hannibal Scorch

22 minutes ago, RedRooster said:

I think that’s irrelevant. You don’t have to accept the cash - especially when you’re a billionaire who can afford to spend one wrestler’s salary to license a song.

Are you saying you’d rather he paid for Flair himself because he can afford it?
 

I think this goes to Tony being a people pleaser. He wanted to give Sting everything he wanted. He should have turned around said Ric Flair ain’t coming in because he’s a dirty old man who should be blackballed from the industry. But he instead asked what Sting wanted to round out his career and checked it off. It pretty much backfired, Flair was booed each appearance and no one seemed to be for it.

TNA, after getting screwed fairly recently on a toy deal, now have one in place from Powertown and they look great 

32 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said:

Can't see anything on there?

Did see some quotes floating around social media but they were old ones.

Of course, one of those things that didn’t copy the link properly. But when I go back and find the tweet it’s been community noted 

and from the comments I think he was just engagement farming. Not that the statement wasn’t great, but it has nothing to do with recent events.

Daniel Radcliffe responds to She who shall not be named https://www.thetrevorproject.org/blog/

10 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Thankfully for you, you’re not watching WWE after Night 2, so it won’t be much more of an issue for you going forward.

He was named during speaking out as sending inappropriate messages to a 13 year old. But I’m glad you got to reuse your joke from the other day. So in that spirit,

Something something bus, something something bus wanker.

3 hours ago, garynysmon said:

“Banning” Hulk Hogan and signing Ric Flair is about as clear an example as I can think of. 

That’s not quite true, although optics. Flair was supposed to be signed and once the Darkside of the Ring episode aired. Sting wanted him to come in during his final run and AEW did a deal with Woo Energy which they would pay Flair to appear. And he only appeared 3 times. 
 

Optically, still looked shit to have him in, but I guess they weren’t paying for the privilege. Jay Lethal is probably the best (worst) example

Austin Theory is supposed to be an irritating character but he’s also an annoying twat outside of that.

1 hour ago, no user name said:

@Hannibal Scorch  I don’t get it lol 

It’s someone tiny. Not much demand for that in gifs 

18 hours ago, no user name said:

Personally I don't like to be that near you have to look up and it hurts my neck I prefer being just above. 

This you?

15 minutes ago, FUM said:

Do we include house shows in everyone’s win/loss record now? Granted he’s not won much on TV since Cena but the way people exaggerate the impact by including house shows is a bit silly. He’s had 5 TV matches this year of which 1 has ended in a no contest, 2 have ended in DQ’s and 1 was a handicap match where his team were outnumbered. On TV, his only loss he’s actually ate a pin in 2024 was to Randy Orton.

I just looked up his record this year on cagematch and thought it was funny, it’s not that deep, or even important. It’s wrestling where we suspend our disbelief frequently.

An edit just for you @SuperBacon. The line was rightfully shat upon when Brandi used it in 2021 for being cringe. Although she’d top it later on when cutting a promo on Dan Lambert used the line, “You might be a Black Belt, but I’m a black bitch”. Sure, not offering Brandi an extension of her talent contract is probably what cost AEW from keeping Cody Rhodes, but it was the right decision, especially as WWE have also not hired her back. But if you think it’s cool, go you!

1 hour ago, TheScarlettChad said:

Solo as the temp leader until The Rock comes back just works. He's a killer heel. 

His justification was that loses have consequences. He’s had 24 matches in 2024. Drawn 1, lost 23.

Been some good discussions in here last few days* and for me now having let the dust settle (and stop taking his to seriously), I think it was a stupid decision to air the footage on Dynamite. I’m not apposed to the footage being out there, but I do think it outside of the ratings bump, they should have released it to an outfit like TMZ and had the storyline follow up on TV (because I do think that part of this worked well. Certainly gave a reason to care about the match which was pretty ice cold in terms of story. I also heard the reason punk did the interview was he was told the footage was going to air and wanted to get ahead of the lead (but that’s dirtsheets so pinch of salt).

21 hours ago, garynysmon said:

Good old whataboutery…

In all seriousness, as @RedRooster alluded to, is Tony Khan really a ‘nice guy’ though?

Yes he gets excited about wrestlers he signs, which may be endearing to some. But ask Big Swole and others he’s had a wobbler about if he’s a nice guy or not.

Tony Khan’s major advantage over any other booker is his financial clout that he inherited by virtue of his birth. A hill I’d happily die on is if you gave Scott D’amore AEW’s budget it would be a better product all round.

He has done some great things. Brodie Lee, giving talent time of when there have been bereavements or births (and I mean more than a week). I certainly think on balance he’s done better things than WWE have done in the past. But I don’t think he’s infallible or not due criticism (although the Swole point is tricky. She has medical issues and I thought he gave her lots of time off when needed. She’s an awful wrestler though so he wasn’t wrong, but definitely said the quiet bit out loud. She definitely did warrant a new contract.) and I’m sorry but I’d love D’amore to be picked up by AEW. I’m shocked he’s not been picked (unless I missed something.

18 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

What did he even say about Ospreay? I missed it, but surprised he'd reference him directly.

He didn’t. But he was asked about signing free agents and he made a comment about talking to people who decided they didn’t want the grind and were happy to work one day a week and he’s glad he didn’t pick them (Not understanding if you offer someone a contract and they take a different one, they didn’t pick you). Of the recent free agents, apparently they only made offers to Will and Mone, and Will had publicly discussed that the WWE offer was good, but AEW allowed him to keep his family living in the UK and not needing to relocate (and we obviously know why that was really important to him). So it’s reading between the lines but also pretty obvious.

Anyway, I’ll try being less of a tit.

That Kevin Owen’s backstage bit was phenomenal, even knocking off CM Punks shirt. This was not 

If you don’t know the reference 

2 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

Scorcher, please take this in the manner it's meant. You make yourself look a tit when you post this shit about WWE and WWE fans when you watch them all the time. If you're just stealing their content, that doesn't make it any better. Why don't you either not watch them or not pretend you're above it all? It'd make a better impression. Genuinely.

I’m not sure I actually do understand the manner it’s intended as the first thing after that is you look like a tit.

And me posting a load of tweets or comments of posts on facebook of some of that discourse from a few hours ago, isn’t fun or wanted by anyone. But my twitter feed was awash with Vince chat, I guess because that was the popular counter point to why AEW needs to die now they have shown the footage.

Its really upset me actually, which probably wasn’t the intention or maybe it was, i dunno. 

12 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said:

AEW fans are like Trump fans. Tony Khan could shit on the entrance stage and they’d cheer them.

I don’t think you realise how many AEW fans don’t like Tony Khan. Even here on the forum that’s the case. But it’s the internet wrestling community a place where many WWE fans openly support Vince despite the allegations so I shouldn’t be surprised.

22 minutes ago, quote the raven said:

Oh what a cluster that had Khan fearing for his life? 

 

Not the same incident 

Punk fans are like Trump fans. He could shit on the entrance stage and they’d cheer him. @RedRooster not sure what you mean about the chants following the bucks around, that pretty much happened after Brawl Out anyway. 

Whilst you all just want to watch the juicy bit, I recommend the whole segment to at least give some context

As to the rest of the show, Copeland vs Penta was a real surprise in quality, he’s really got his work boots on now he’s in AEW. I’m going to watch hour 2 in the morning.

“ Sometimes you can’t let someone get close. I didn’t punch anybody I just choked someone a little bit”

If you thought/think Punks a saint or that he’s the man, you probably still do. If you think Punk is unprofessional and a man baby, this confirmed it. It also confirmed he lied about Jack Perry’s actions. He tried to sucker him, he failed to choke him for more then 2 seconds and Jack never squared up to Punk. Now we know, now we move on. I thought both the Bucks and FTR did great work here weaving it into the PPV match and I assume the next blood and guts with the return of Jack Perry.

53 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

It's fucking own one where we can all ignore it.

Genuine question, Do you actually watch any AEW or you just here for making quips?  

25 minutes ago, JLM said:

- Chris Jericho. 

Chris Jericho since 2023, absolutely. I do think it was a savvy pick up at the time. Remember this was pre Mox, pre Danielson, pre Punk, Pre Cole. He was a WWE guy, at the top for many years, it was a great statement of intent.

But yes, he needs to go and while he’s continually featured, it makes Tony’s booking stupid.

20 minutes ago, RedRooster said:

I promise I’m not trying to catch you out or be an arse here, but could you list three negative traits you’ve noticed in Tony Khan, specifically in relation to his booking or handling of talent? 

For someone who likes my posts, that’s a weird thing to ask, because he’s a flawed guy. I think he is unfairly treated overall (especially compared to how the other place has been run), but he’s not faultless.

- Women’s division. Yes it’s getting better now but for ages it was the 21:20 - 21:40 segment. A match, maybe a promo, that’s your lot. 
 

- Talent Relations. we’ve seen wrestlers released who have found out from dirt sheets because no one could be bothered to call them. That’s not how you treat people.

- Freedom. What does an EVP do? What do you mean you’re not happy with that angle, call you with new ideas next month? Backstage can be chaotic (ignoring the punch ups), it does seem to be they need more structure. Tony Khan wants to be hands on with everything, stretching himself to thin. Though I think Punk has turned out to be a bit of a prick, I can imagine that a lot of his comments made in that interview about the backstage of AEW were accurate. It definitely needs to have a better structure.

Do you want to give me 3 things you like about the current AEW landscape or is that a bit too Cody/Rock belt swap?

6 hours ago, RedRooster said:

I think that’s reading into something that isn’t there at an extreme level, I’m afraid. In reference to the tweet, the only ‘layer’ that exists is a thin layer of skin that has caused Tony Khan to do this. I 

We’re really going to discuss who has the thinnest skin in wrestling? At this rate I’d put £5 on Tony ”Dweeby” Khan being able to take down Philip “Fragile Ego, Fragile Body” Brookes. And one has the look of Mr Burns physic, but the other has the mobility of him.

2 hours ago, Chili said:

I think airing the footage unless it's something absolutely extraordinary (given we know most of the thing it won't be) is a waste of time you could use for a promo, or a new talent.

It’s a fan theory, but think it makes a lot of sense

2 hours ago, andrew "the ref" coyne said:

I think the main thing that disappointed me is that I would of liked to of seen Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens involved in that final match too. In fact I would of preferred them over the legends (though im probably in the minority here). They were so much more involved in the two year storyline and would of closed their arcs off nicely. 

 

No, I said the same to my mate yesterday. What they gave us was nostalgia pops, which are seemingly bad in every other medium bar wrestling. But if all the people who had challenged Roman and got screwed of a win, were involved to help Cody win, that would have been a far better way for Cody to finish his, but also Romans, story.