Undefeated Steak

And people wonder why we're embarrassed to call ourselves wrestling fans? If a non-fan took their son to a show and a wrestler swore/stuck a finger up at them, they'd rightly think it was the gutter-level entertainment it so often is. And it's a shame, because there is so much good out there, as BomberPat mentioned.

To steal a phrase, "Don't let her know I'm at the wrestling, she thinks I'm playing piano in a brothel". 

'Has coronavirus killed off Manchester's Spice supply?'

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/coronavirus-killed-manchesters-spice-supply-17868719

Was Ric Flair walking down the aisle?

'Coronavirus crisis holiday bargains!'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-8074419/Coronavirus-crisis-holiday-bargains-Airlines-slash-prices-cabins.html

Just walked out halfway through Greed - it has Steve Coogan and David Mitchell in so I thought it'd a fun couple of hours.

Avoid. 

Ignore

11 hours ago, Loki said:

Looking at the infection rates and fatality rates (2%), this could end up being the most serious health crisis this country has seen since Spanish Flu. 

 @wordsfromlee (Won't delete)

What about SARS, with a mortality rate of about 10% or Ebola which had an even higher mortality rate?

This is just the latest virus to get a main event push. For the elderly, there's statistically still a far higher chance they'll catch the flu and die from that, so it's daft to be worried about them getting the coronavirus if you wouldn't normally be overly worried about them catching a flu.

I think it'll be like any other outbreak. Mass panic at first, infected numbers charts shooting up at an alarming rate, but a vaccination or whatever found before it gets too out of control. 

Great fun. They also do great versions of Africa and No Diggity 

5 minutes ago, RedRooster said:

We have Dolph Lundgren and Dirk Diggler to blame for Dolph Ziggler,

Nobody but Nick Nemeth to blame for Dolph Ziggler. 

Thank you

Started following AEW but I'm so out of the loop that I thought you watched PPV's on ITV Box Office. How do I watch it? Nearest I've found is Fite.tv for $20.

The loss has been coming for a while. Hopefully now we've thrown the league away we can focus on Europe again. 

Umaga without Samoa Joe.

2 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

We all know people continue to watch WWE long past the point of enjoying it in order to moan about it. I wasn't talking about WWE as a whole though. I was talking specifically about this show. It's almost stand alone anyway. It's bought and paid for. Apart from Goldberg winning the title, none of it matters a jot to the wider products.

Sorry that post wasn't aimed at yours - it was to a couple on the previous pages. Should've quoted it. 

Edit - Yeah I get that the Saudi show is a stupid time to vent frustration as @Supremo says - nobody should really be classing it as canon. 

The why would you still watch it if you don't like it question doesn't hold much weight. We've watched through far worse than what they're currently watching. It's like asking why someone still follows their football team even when they've got a manager and owner they hate. It's what makes us fans. In fact, WWE wouldn't be half as much fun to watch if they actually booked perfectly. Our generation spent years demanding that WWE features pure best wrestlers ever wrestling, and when WWE gives us half a decade of some of the best wrestling matches ever, we moan about how boring it is and that there's no new stars. And then we come online to moan about younger fans being fickle. 

I'm all for Edge, Goldberg, Undertaker. They're the big names from our youth, and while I'm not usually one to side with the rest of the wrestling internet, it does make you realise that this is the first wave of wrestling fans now who've never had a real star from their own generation. Reigns is as close as they've got, but he's been constantly overshadowed by Cena, Lesnar and other big names from past. 

Daniel Bryan was probably the last one and his climax was six years ago, a lifetime for a young fan. 

It must be frustrating as fuck to constantly see your favourite wrestlers losing to guys whose careers peaked before they were born.

It's a rare time that I'm actually empathising with the rest of them. Cancel Network tweets might sound corny as fuck to us cool bastards on the UKFF, but if I was a 20 year old fan now I'd be gutted, and would be seeing WWE as the company that seemingly books its entire self as a heel for whatever reason.

I must visit dark places elsewhere on the net because for the most part the UKFF seems the most fair, balanced and thoughtful place online. 

Also, it's a good thing that there aren't multiple new threads started every day, because it means that when I start one I'll get at least two replies in it.

Agree with Carbomb. Also, nothing influences a crowd like the crowd itself. Most crowds have been silent for the past decade. A hot crowd will pop for anything. The first couple of post-Wrestlemania Raw crowds were a good example of that (yes they got shit eventually). Few things drain the life out of a show like a quiet crowd will. 

That Kane video was tremendous, hadn't seen that before. Kane looked huge next to those two.

What theories or ideas do you have about anything, really? You don't have to believe they're fact, but you need to at least imagine they could be plausible. What do you want science to prove to be true/false in the next century?

I've got a few.

As someone who thinks there is life 'out there' but none that has ever visited earth, I am still curious about this:

With the idea that over the next however many thousand years, humans will get weaker (and therefore develop smaller skeletons and muscle mass), and our brains and skulls will get larger, and possibly eyes getting bigger due to screen/lens glare, is it possible that the typical description of an alien would be humans visiting us from the future? 

Once a particular level of travel is reached, it would be plausible that civilisations would travel along lengths of time rather than distances (it's essentially the same, but once you start travelling in lightyears rather than miles, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine being able to go back in time).

- One of the main reasons scientists accept that the universe is expanding is because of red-shifting, where the further galaxies are away from us, the more their lightwaves have been stretched, and the more 'red' they appear.

I have a theory that rather than the universe actually expanding in size, it's actually shrinking from within itself. Imagine a huge black hole that's swallowing the universe from its center. Objects within that universe would still be moving further apart from each other. 

It would also explain why you could never travel faster than the speed of light, because above that's actually the speed that the universe is shrinking.

Some maths suggests that a human is closer in size to the universe itself than it is to the smallest known thing (quark?). But to go almost infinitely small doesn't take the same amount of space/time to reach than it would take to reach one edge of the universe than the other. So you can go almost infinitely small in less distance than you can go almost infinitely big. I have a theory that if you go infinitely small you end up going infinitely 'big', which could explain the idea of how the big bang would've contained all the matter in the universe within a size relative to a pin.

- Finally, I have an idea that dark energy could be nothing other than what allows things to actually exist. Imagine a box of 'nothing' in space. No particles, nothing. Just a vacuum. Well, if you fire a light photon through it, the photon would still appear at the other side. There must still be 'something' there that tells the photon that it must exist. If you truly had 'nothing', then the photon would just vanish from existence, because there is nothing telling it to still behave and obey the laws of itself. 

So, dark matter or energy could be nothing but the 'hosting' for lack of a better word of the universe itself, the very properties that exist which allows whatever is within it to be able to behave in whatever way it does. There has to be something which allows gravity to be able to behave in the way that it does. And that must take up some 'bandwidth' itself, which could account for dark energy.

Better than the Rumble stats that post!

I watched this with barely any prior knowledge of the wrestlers on the show. I recognised some of the names and had seen Finn Balor wrestle before, but that was the extent of it. 

I thought it was tremendous. I haven't suffered the recent burn out of seeing ROH Shawn vs Undertaker style main events every month, so it all felt fresh. I can see how it gets old quickly though. 

The opener was great, albeit awkward at times and there were a few unnecessary big moves that it could've done without, but that's the nature of the biz I guess now. Both came out looking like stars. 

Nox was my stand-out performer on the show. No idea how consistent she is on a frequent basis but if I was to pick a future star from anyone on the show, it would be her. Bonus for hitting the best German suplex since records began.

The tag match was a delight to watch. Like much of the show, it suffered from too many false falls which should've ended the match, but I was gripped.

The Balor match was good enough but didn't feel right in the middle of a card. Would've been more at home as a good Raw or Smackdown main event. 

The main event, though I did enjoy it, was probably my least favourite match on the show. How long did it go for, about 40 minutes? If they're doing 25+ minute stretches then they best be bringing their A-games. It didn't live up to what I think it's intentions were, and it came off feeling like a plastic early-2000's NJPW main event. 

All in all, thoroughly enjoyed it on the whole.

Cathing up on some of the highlights of the past couple of years and I'm sure I remember reading about a Cody, Dustin tag match from one of the early AEW shows that was raved about a year or so ago? Itcould've happened in WWE for all I know, so may not have been AEW.

Does anyone know which match this would've been, or am I mis-remembering and actually just thinking of the Cody - Dustin match?

I've started watching wrestling again for the first time in years. Started catching up with Raw, AEW and NXT. Gotta say I've fallen for it with the same level of enjoyment that I had a decade or so ago.

I don't know if it's due to not watching in years; whether I'm feeling in a better place personally; whether the product as a whole is just that much better, or a combination, but I never thought I'd be watching again and enjoying it so much.

Maybe it was more burn out than anything before. It was around Lucha Underground S2 that I think I last watched regularly. The last full show I watched would've been Wrestlemania 30, which I found to be a fitting end to my time watching as fan. But we all know retirements in this game don't last.

The quality of wrestling has been great for years, no doubt. But whenever I'd dipped my toes back in, that was all there was. Seemingly endless great matches with no substance. I used to say it was like watching Real Madrid vs Barca, but them playing each other in friendlies every weekend.

The production values are as good, if not better than ever. There seems to be excitement in the arenas again. The wrestlers themselves seem to have a passion that had been removed for years before. Chris Jericho is great, and I've never been a fan.

Storylines have more, erm, stories to them, and the characters playing them have more depth than the 2D personas that used to take up 90% of an episode. 

More than anything I've come in here to suggest that if you were the same and haven't watched in years, now might be a good time to give it another chance. The one hour Raw and SD on C5 is also what's long being needed. For the first time in forever, I'm looking forward to a Wrestlemania and the summer ahead.

This is the third time I've been to the shop and forgotten to get shit roll. Need to start browsing the forum when I'm in Tesco.

There's an industrial sized roll of the thinnest toilet paper here that I can only hazard a guess as to how it first appeared in the property. I've got a Madras on and I fear it's going to be like cleaning up an oil spillage with receipt paper later. 

Which leads me onto what's the worst thing you've ever wiped your arse with when you've ran out of toilet roll?

My opening gambit is a sock or attempting to use the brown cardboard roll of the toilet paper. 

Feathered t rex's are just dinosaurs dressed up as Ultimate Warrior.