Wrasslin

What kind of night is it? Pro / Open Mic / New material?

13 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

I didn't know Drew McIntyre was on Smackdown tbh. Agre with Supremo, I'd let Kanellis, Ascension, Rawley, Ziggler, Mahal, Ryder and Breezango go altogether. Of them, only Dolph has any value as a "hand" and he's too expensive for that.

Breezango have plenty of value to be fair. Always a place for that sort of act on the show. I'd certainly rather watch them than Ziggler.

So I assume Miz is winning back the IC title at Backlash and taking it to Smackdown? I kind of hope they don't immediately blow their load with the Miz/Bryan stuff. But at the same time it's going to be hard to find reasons to keep them apart.

8 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

Which one was Mongo supposed to be?

Touché

I don't get how they struggle so much with this? WCW used to nail the three man booth format a lot of the time.

Play by play guy.

Colour guy

Analyst who they throw to for stats/insight.

Shouldn't be that hard.

RelliM - Makes flour . . . but backwards.

Headbanger Thresher - Quits the metal scene to focus on his love of harvesting wheat.

Busty Rhodes - A terrible misunderstanding at the doctor's leaves Dusty with more than he bargained for . . . with surprisingly sexy results. 

Samoa Moe: After taking a bump to the head Joe get's amnesia and opens a Tavern in Springfield serving Duff and Swedish import beer Düff. 

Crush Holly: Crush shaves his head to a crew cut and dyes it blonde to become the Fourth Holly Cousin.

Demolition Crash: Donning the Face Paint and Leather, crash becomes the even more superfluous 4th member of the Demolition Tag Team.

The Undertaken: A man infuriated by people passing him in the left hand lane takes out his anger in the ring. 

Pichael Cole: Conjoined twin of Michael Cole. Presents a cooking show in an adjacent studio to Raw which airs live at the same time. Has a bitter relationship with his brother.

War Machine are already at the PC right? I think they'd fit the bill.

9 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

And this is where the "it's just heel heat!"/"it's in character" defence falls apart - Jay was spouting this shit as a babyface, it's quite obviously what he genuinely believes.

Not that it was ever a good defence anyway - if you need to attack a minority to get heel heat, you're a shitty heel.

To be fair in certain parts of the World that is a baby face move . . . unfortunately.

I think even the people that boo have a genuine love for Big Match John now. It's just become part of the act really. After the Reigns match there was a pretty clear "Thank you Cena" chant. So I think when he does go he'll get a pretty amazing ovation.

I think they're just aware that if they throw this out at Wrestlemania then the crowd will shit all over it as it's pre taped and not happening in front of them

3 hours ago, PunkStep said:

Oh of course, arguably both respective wrestlers' best feud, but you know WWE would love to say it was Orton and Cena. The 'ruthless aggression' graduates and all that.

I'd still punt for CM Punk as Cena's best opponent, wasn't overdone like the others. All their matches told stories with bits added as call backs to the ones that went before them.

Overall I thought Payback was a fun show. The women's tag match was just sort of there.

But I thought Ruby Riott looked like she could be a big star moving forwards for the first time.

I actually didn't dislike the Orton vs Roode match as some others did. Maybe should have been a few minutes shorter but I think that's a symptom of the times.

Pleased Nakamura didn't get booed out of the building in the wake of a Rusev Day backlash. Liked the two of them together actually. Hopefully a post wrestlmania feud for Nakamura. Rusev definitely dear a spot on the WM card though.

My main takeaway from the main event was just how great Sami Zayn is. His mannerisms and everything he does is so spot on. His interactions with Owens were brilliant. I'd rather they just let those two go out there at Wrestlemania rather than involving Shane. Unless it leads to DB wrestling in which case then go for it!

36 minutes ago, Supremo said:

If tipping the ring up and eliminating everyone that way isn’t possible, I’ve thought of another way Braun could eliminate everyone. You know that spot they sometimes do where about six or seven guys try and gang up on one of the fat ones in the Royal Rumble, then they hulk up and everyone dives backwards? I want every single opponent to do that with Braun in the Andre the Giant Battle Royale and when he stands up and shouts every single one of them should stumble and fall out, eliminating themselves. Twenty or thirty of them in one go. Brilliant.

I’ve also decided I want nothing more than a will-they-wont-they romance angle between Braun and Alexa Bliss. 

I don't think the question is "will they won't they" more "physically . . . can they?"

16 hours ago, PunkStep said:

Oh yeah, a couple of shitty straps competed for a 30 minute show in front of a dead crowd that nobody cares about. That'll reel them in!!

I hear catering is pretty good . . . 

Trying to entice the Young Bucks

Weirdly enough (and I can't believe I'm actually going to say this) but Mr Kennedy made a really good point about this in a shoot a I saw on Youtube. He was talking about how when people would try and pull him out of the corner or away from the ropes he would hang on or try and push them away; as you would if somewhere were trying to do that to you. 

But other guys would complain that it was throwing them off and accuse him of trying to make them look sloppy. The only one who 'got it' was, weirdly enough, The Undertaker. Who told him to keep doing it as it made him look unique. Then the agents told him to stop.

Interesting that it was the older school guy who liked it and didn't care as much about looking crisp.

3 hours ago, boytoy said:

NXT can tell better stories than Raw is that there is a constant changing of the guard so the comparison is unfair. Once a wrestler is on the main roster they are there until they are injured/retire/do something really dumb and there is only a certain amount of patience can have before an act gets stale.

Randy Orton won his first title in 2004, Cena in 2006 and Lesnar in 2002 which would be like Hogan, Savage and Warrior being the main draw on a 2000 WWF show. WCW tried that and went under. At Summerslam 14 when Lesnar killed Cena, Roman Reigns wrestled Randy Orton that night. Perhaps it would have been a lot better if it had have been Reigns who had have dominated Cena that night, on the back of the Shield run and before they exposed his weaknesses too much. There never was an obvious younger replacement for Cena which is why they decided to play it safe and succeed him with Lesnar as the top guy. The only problem is that it hasn't worked.

 

To be fair Hogan was Champion in 2002 and headlining Summerslam in 2005

Mr Quiggle . . .

22 hours ago, MVP RULZ said:

Kevin Kelly does a good job on New Japan shows 

Not sure if his schedule would allow him to do both TNA and NJPW though

I dont know how TNA tape the shows and how far in advance they go with each set of Tapings

But it's a known fact that Kevin Kelly picks his nose.

15 minutes ago, Supremo said:

It was lost in a plethora of great matches during the Cruiserweight Classic, but I recall Gargano and Ciampa having a cracking babyface vs. babyface match in the first round of that tournament. The idea of them headlining a Takeover event, for the title, after almost a year of build up, makes me nearly burst with excitement. Meltzer better get ready with seven stars.

That was the match of the tournament for me. Gargano certainly knows how to sell a beating. Was brutal. 

Just now, FailedPromoter said:

Nowhere near! 

Mr. Fair to Middling doesn't the same ring to it unfortunately.

Imagining a video of you throwing a basketball over your shoulder and missing etc.

19 minutes ago, FailedPromoter said:

Aye, I'm guilty of this one, same with throwing the towel over the head and catching behind my back after a shower. 

Is your success rate as good as Curt's?

 . . . I feel like the opportunity to turn the conversation to Double Deckers is arising again.

But perhaps not the time.