King Pitcos

15 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

No one is going to keep paying $9.99 for just old content.  

Well if that's the case, everyone who says they only have the network to rewatch old content is a liar!

I dunno, I've seen a lot of comments online along the lines of "wrestling sucks now, I only watch old stuff on the network."

Big Dave and Cornette have properly fallen out on Twitter now: https://www.ringsidenews.com/2020/02/05/jim-cornette-dave-meltzer-end-friendship-over-kenny-omega/

Proper Asif and Mudasir stuff.

To the rest of you, everything that's ever been said or done on a wrestling TV show since 2002 is a mortal insult.

Roody poo candy ass.

On 9/24/2018 at 5:47 PM, air_raid said:

Here's the thing that annoys me about their tendency to swerve the move at the logical point because its "too obvious" - they've done to Reigns a dozen times - people forget what the point was.

They couldn’t have heel Orton winning to close out WrestleMania, though. If they’d changed the result, they’d have had to put one of the other matches on last...

29 minutes ago, Loki said:

When was the last time WWE turned a popular heel face  without immediately adding terrible facets to their personality?  AJ Styles?  
This need for faces to be smiley and dancing is bizarre when you consider that their biggest stars ever were Austin and The Rock, who were both essentially assholes when face.

Becky Lynch in 2018, Daniel Bryan last year, Samoa Joe this year.

Then again, Roman Reigns has spent most of the last five years looking moody rather than smiling, and I think he’s only danced in the Hobbs & Shaw film (to zero cinema pops), and he’s been the most cried-about of all, so I’m not sure smiling and dancing makes much of a difference.

14 minutes ago, garynysmon said:

If its a case of possessing one skill over the other, then Cody's priorities are right. Telling a compelling story has always been more important, especially in terms of revenue, over athletic ability and the in-ring stuff. 

 

Telling a compelling story is the in-ring stuff. Cody is quite a testament to hard work - which is an odd thing to say about a second-generation wrestler who has had jobs handed to him. But he’s not gifted with loads of charisma, freaky genetics or uncanny athletic ability, so he doesn’t have those things as shortcuts. He just studies the game and works damn hard to sell his storylines and angles, and with the right dance partner, he can deliver a good payoff when match time comes.

He’s a 6/10 performer on paper, but his stuff works way better than anyone else’s on the show. Jericho is sometimes more entertaining, but that’s fat old man meta comedy stuff - closer to Broken Matt Hardy than to a mainstream wrestling headliner. Moxley is Dean Ambrose with an eyepatch rather than a gas mask. Omega’s a wasteman. All three of them are “better” than Cody, yet they’re not showing it in AEW. If the whole thing goes tits up in a year, Cody is the one who has set himself up to be worth most to WWE. 

One thing that might be key is that the indie game scene has come on a lot since TNA were chasing a deal. If AEW were happy to go with a lo-fi game (imitating the likes of No Mercy or Fire Pro) aimed are the hardcore niche audience/nostalgia dollar, the turnaround might be a lot faster than if they are hanging on for a “proper” game. 

Fucking hell, imagine him pinning one of them after one finisher as well!

There are bound to be a couple who are insecure enough to embrace the smaller pond of the NXT arena rather than the daunting big Mania stadium. I bet King Corbin isn’t one of them though, and yet I’d love to see him do a match at Takeover or Full Sail. He was a great heel on the 2015 NXT tour, and he’s come a long way since then. Him going back into that environment now after years of a heel push on the proper shows would be hilarious, especially in a big title match against Cole or Gargano.

13 hours ago, Daaaaaad! said:

Got a pal who's a figure collector that says if these are anywhere near the quality of the company's other bits of gear, they could be excellent.

What bits of gear? I thought you were talking about Jazwares as well, but we’re you on about AEW t-shirts?

It’s a wellness policy, not just a drugs policy. He doesn’t look well at all. Big Show used to get suspended all the time for being a fat fuck.

The other fella’s even worse than Boydy, I’d say.

I wish they’d push someone new instead of Seth and Roman all the time. If they did that, I would like wrestling again, I swear.

Ricochet’s fucked himself on the Internet again. 

And he licensed the name Dusty Rhodes to WWE for the Dusty Classic this year. 

You’re not supposed to have taken it seriously anyway. It’s like WWE’s onscreen attendance figures, or everything Cody “I own the name Rhodeth, I thwear, don’t check my trademark applicathion hithtory” Runnels ever says in an interview - it’s just for entertainment purposes.

50 minutes ago, Brudaker said:

Cody deciding he can only do it if he goes double or nothing and puts his career on the line would be hugely compelling in my opinion

There’s no stakes there when they’re using the same breath to undercut Cody’s promises and show they mean nothing. “I mean it this time though, honest!” 

1 hour ago, Chris B said:

Totally non-essential show, outside of Hangman and an unexpectedly genuinely funny moment with Joey Janela. Enjoyed it, but I'll remember basically nothing.

Feel like they've wasted Butcher and the Blade. I really like them, and I loved the pre-match vignette. But if they've won since turning up, I've missed it. Which makes it difficult to see them as any kind of a threat. If they were played as mercenaries who don't give a shit about winning or losing, that could work - but they need to take some people out as a result.

Just wait until January, they'll be back at 0-0.

3 hours ago, Wrasslin said:

But to be fair Mike Rotunda didn’t go on to become a multiple time world champion after being IRS.

Booker T already does the five-time WCW champion gimmick. Double J nicking that (or pretending the TNA belt counts for anything) wouldn’t do anyone any favours.

2 hours ago, WyattSheepMask said:

Fucking hell, Nakamura has been in WWE for 4 years and I couldn’t tell you a meaningful thing he’s done in that time

Fixed.

Just now, dopper said:

I’m not saying Vince is wrong to only acknowledge that one short-lived gimmick, but the list I made was of achievements Jarrett could and should be proud of over a 30 year career and it must bug him that he’s only remembered by many people for a comedy gimmick that lasted for 2 of those years.

I dunno, a lot of wrestlers end up with a fairly short-lived period of their career lasting the test of time as their nostalgia character - and the more cartoonish, the easier it is to slot into a 30-second skit. IRS was only a couple of years of Mike Rotunda's career, and it's very rare that we'd see him pop up on Old School Raw as something else. 

37 minutes ago, dopper said:

- The “Don’t Piss Me Off” era

- Dominated the tag division for a year with Owen

- Member of the Four Horsemen

- Multiple time WCW World Champion

- Founded TNA and main evented there for a decade

- Worked New Japan and joined Bullet Club

- Won a Title in Mexico on TripleMania

 

I wonder how Jeff Jarrett feels about only being able to get on WWE TV (based on 2018 Hall of Fame & 2019 Royal Rumble) if he plays the comedy cowboy character he did from 1994 to 1996.

Everything besides the top item on that list is pretty meaningless as far as him appearing on Raw goes. The second item isn't true (they were only a tag team for about four or five months), and everything else is from dying WCW, shitty TNA or foreign promotions. Either way, his value as a character on WWE TV sort of begins and ends with "messing about with Elias on a retro show."

6 hours ago, Carbomb said:

Very good. Except attempting to equate Muslims with Brexiters is fallacious because they're nowhere near the same things, in numerous ways. 

I'm not really equating Muslims with Brexiters, though, just pointing out that the way you talked about Brexiters there was very reminiscent of the way that some people talk about Muslims. That whole "the good ones should prove they're good by loudly condemning the bad ones" shit probably sounded abhorrent to you when it was about a group you were in support of, yet it seems like perfectly valid logic to you when it's about a group you don't like. Its sole use is to bully, demonise and undermine a segment of society, which is more than a little problematic.