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2 hours ago, mim731 said:

Wasn't it directed by one of the make-up/VFX guys because they didn't want to spend the money on a director, and made the whole thing in a week? I'm sure I recall reading that at some stage. Doug Bradley (who is a lovely bloke) was not happy at all about it, understandably. 

Yep. Same as Hellraiser: Judgement which  was written and directed by Gary J. Tunnicliffe, who was also in charge of the make-up effects and co-starred in it as "The Auditor". Talk about spreading yourself thin!

They wanted Doug Bradley back for Pinhead, but were demanding he signed a non-disclosure agreement with a £1m penalty just to see the script, and he rightly told them to get fucked.

37 minutes ago, DarloKid said:

i posted this in the movie review talk thread & thought id also post here for abit more discussion 

 

Now onto the first 4 Hellraiser films for me the first is a really good film, i know loads old it to a high esteem in horror circles. Maybe i don't hold it to that high level as i didnt see it as kid, i dont know but still a real good film. Infact the first 3 films i gave ***1/2 too on Letterboxd. Now for the 4th film (*** i rated it), Bloodline. This was good but, i think there was a really great film in here somewhere which could have been to the point am at the best in series. And as i suspected after doing some reading up, script changes, budget cuts and director changes seem to have changed what the original premise/vision for the film was. Such a shame

That's basically the story of every Hellraiser film after number 3. The rights owners simply took pre-existing scripts, wove Pinhead and Hellraiser themes through them and released them for a quick, easy profit. The first one after Doug Bradley left the role was only made so they could keep the rights, so fuck all was spent on it and they just threw out any old shite.

For me, going forward, if they handle it right they will have Jungle Boy and Darby Allin as their two "homegrown" stars who are the cornerstones at the top of the card. Y

ou have two guys there who the fans seem to have adopted as their own, who both have the potential to switch between face and heel(Jungle Boy could take the Jack Perry name, and do a spoilt, Hollywood golden boy type thing as a heel, just like Allin could easily switch between cool underdog counter-culture guy to crazy psychopathic skater bloke), and allow others like Miro, Page, etc to cycle in and out of the main event programs as needed.

5 hours ago, SpiritOfTheForest said:

That's Billy Gilmour out of tomorrow after testing positive for Covid. For. Fuck's. Sake. 

After earning almost universal plaudits (with the exception of the ITV commentary team apparently) for his performance against England, that's a huge blow on the eve of one of our biggest games for 20 plus years. Classic Scotland. Hopefully there's no more to come. 

Just seen Mount and Chilwell are having to self-isolate too now.

I watched the Wayne's World films last night for the first time in about 25 years. After spending most of the first film trying to place where I'd seen the actor who played Terry, the "I love you man", guy, it finally dawns in me it's Lee Tegesen, who I'm sure all on here better know him as Tobias Beecher from Oz! It may have been common knowledge, but it was a real "Fuck me, it's him" moment for me!

10 hours ago, PowerButchi said:

With the population you have, the TV money for your professional league which filters into the international set up you should be getting results like this all the while. 

That's a good point that I've never realised before, and shows just how well the FAW have done to develop the national team, despite the lack of a quality league structure(when was the last Welsh league player to get a look in?)...

3 hours ago, JNLister said:

Today I sat in a lot of drizzle and then saw this:

 

 

What a ball, and from a Barnsley lass too! YORKSHIRE, YORKSHIRE, YORKSHIRE!

3 hours ago, BomberPat said:

I didn't think much of Takeover - even by NXT standards, it was "good wrestling" for the sake of "good wrestling".

The six-man was fun- I'm a fan of everyone in it, and they worked well together, but the result was never really in doubt. Match of the night for me, but gave me very little to actually care about.

I'm not as down on Xia Li vs. Mercedes Martinez as some people have been - I love Mercedes, and while it's a shame that she's mostly used as a bit of a stepping stone, that's probably the right move at this stage in her career. I liked Xia Li in the Mae Young Classic, and this is my first time seeing the new heel gimmick. I like her spooky mate - my girlfriend assumed she was going to pull the mask down and spit poison mist when she was fighting with Mercedes, and I'm disappointed it didn't happen. Boa's a big useless mug, isn't he? This at least felt like it had some story behind it.

I wasn't a fan of LA Knight vs. Cameron Grimes at all. Knight might be one of the blandest wrestlers to come along in a long, long time, and I don't understand why they're positioning him as a future star when he's pushing 40 with a decade of TV experience elsewhere, but that's NXT for you. The match was completely at odds with the story leading up to - a mostly comedic storyline being paid off with big ladder bumps and high spots doesn't work for me. Nor does the result - why would you not put the Million Dollar belt on the guy who was actually the catalyst for the storyline, and is working the millionaire gimmick? It was ridiculous hearing the commentators put over the Million Dollar Championship as something prestigious, and the video package being about how it's a symbol of a fighting champion who'll outwork everyone else and take on all-comers - just a complete wilful ignorance of their own history; the Million Dollar Championship was, obviously, a vanity belt and the exact opposite of everything they were saying it was. It would be fine if it was just Ted putting it over like that, but the announce team were too. Terrible stuff. Again, it would be more befitting the angle if only the people fighting for it treated it as a prize worth winning and everyone else pointed out that it's a daft vanity belt.

Raquel Gonzalez vs. Ember Moon was pretty good - Raquel's getting better, and Ember's still brilliant, and deserves so much better than she gets. I noticed in the build up to it, though, the commentators using the clearly fed line that it's a match in "the greatest women's division in the world". A fundamentally gotten to promotion. Even late stage WCW wasn't working with such an obvious chip on its shoulder inferiority complex as modern day NXT.

Speaking of fed lines, how many times were we told that the main event was the "most star-studded in NXT history"? Jeez. I zoned out for almost all of it. Karrion Kross does absolutely nothing for me, Kyle O'Reilly's stock has fallen through the floor since they decided that the best move after a babyface turn and brutal Last Man Standing Match with his former ally turned hated rival was to dress him up as someone you'd give a wide berth at Reading Festival. Gargano and Cole are just done to death, and it's as tired a main event scene as you can get.

 

The teaser with William Regal at the end just didn't feel remotely earned by this show. The whole "I've never seen such bedlam" thing and him being unable to control NXT surely would have made more sense at the end of a more chaotic show than this one? Nothing about this show fell out of control or unusual in any way.

I've not watched NXT for a long time, so this may be totally wide out of the question, but is there any chance he is coming out of retirement for a little run to "clean" the place up? Or is it simply a tease about changing the on-screen authority? 

18 hours ago, ElCece said:

My concern with splitting the disciplines is not many would choose red ball. If you want to make a career and decent income white ball is a much safer bet. 

That was the aspect I was worried about. 

I'm just really concerned that Test cricket, one of my favourite things in the world won't last much longer...

Just watching the Sky Sports pundits autopsy on the state of the English team. Only a single player averaging over 40 with the bat, and an ageing pace attack with no obvious signs of any replacements obvious.

Have we come to a point where we need to properly split the disciplines, and have red ball player only playing and concentrating on first class and white ball players only playing and concentrating in list A/T20? 

It just feels at the minute we're at a place with the England team in particular where all the focus is on the white ball disciplines, and traditional test match skills are going becoming extinct.  

Christ. That was one of the hardest things I've ever watched! You don't expect to settle in to watch a football match and see a player collapse and get given CPR on live TV. I was in tears watching it! 

It's so good to see he is stable now.  

I was gutted when we lost big Moore for what felt like a pittance. Brilliant striker and  always puts a good shift in too...

I started doing it about 10 years ago, basically because I was skint and needed to save money. I used to get up for work at 7am, and go all day until about 8pm without eating anything(I used to drink gallons of water, though), then not eat again until the following evening. 

Although it was hard work mentally(mainly having to sit and watch work-mates eating), physically I wasn't an issue. Of course I felt hungry, but not to the extent I was going to pass out or anything. From there I basically kept it going on and off to this day, and even now while I may have a breakfast and maybe the odd snack, I still don't eat a meal between breakfast and tea at 8pm ish.

When I was more active, in the days before my disability, I stayed at a healthy weight(in my opinion) of about 12-13 stone on my 6ft frame. Now my mobility is gone, keeping my weight at what I'm happy with is a nightmare, no matter how much I fast or not.

That "Joker" spot in the battle royal really does seem cursed!

@Keith HouchenIt's the same in many sports. Snooker, for example. Barring reach, there is nothing that means a woman should be able to complete with a man at the top level(and players like Jimmy White show that a shorter reach isn't that much of a hinderance). Darts is another, as is most motor racing(F1 is a bit of an outlier, as in it's current form a lot is down to physical strength to cope with the g-forces the drivers experience).

Maybe a mtf trans person breaking into the above sports is the catalyst needed to break the glass ceiling and inspire other trans and born women to pursue professional careers...

Thanks @patiircand @SuperBaconfor the replies!

Can I ask how the body reacts differently depending on what age the transition occurs? Again, I'm thinking on the sporting front and body development. If someone born a boy starts the transition at say, 8 year old, would their body develop the same as a natural born(sorry if that is not the right term, I'm still learning) female? Then comparing it to a (again, lets say) 24 year old who was born male had has started the trasition?

This thread has been so interesting and in a way eye opening to me, a bog standard, fat and old straight white male. There are terms and descriptions talked about in here that I have never heard before, and have made me look them up and now understand. So thank you!

Can i ask something though, please? Patiirc mentioned that she couldn't play Rugby now, and it got me thinking about elite level sports(sorry, my mind always ends up thinking about sports!). Where do people stand on the "issue" of trans men and women competing in with their "new" sex(the Olympics for example)? I'm honestly really conflicted about it. On one hand, why shouldn't a trans mtf athlete compete against other women(and vice versa), after all they are women and men? But then on the other I fear that women's elite level sports will become nearly 100% mtf by default when less and less of those who are female at birth are able to compete. I don't know the answer to it all, but I wondered what those who are trans or genderfluid on the forum thought?

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Just thought I'd clarify, I specifically focussed on mtf and not ftm as I don't think there are any elite lever ftm athletes at the top level at the minute(that I know of, anyway) 

6 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

That will come, I'm sure but we'll be old or dead. You forget sometimes how quickly society has changed. Everything from technology to social attitudes about sexuality, sexual harassment and race. Many of us are at an age where people who were our age when we were born were born during the second world war. We've grown up with their attitudes and a social attitude in general that was scared of things that were different and mocked and labelled it. There has been a massive change in the last 15-20 years as to what is acceptable and despite there still being plenty of people who cry about cancel culture and long for the days when TV characters called each other pakis and poofs and god knows what. But they are literally dying off. If the world has changed so much in 15 years, I like to think attitudes will be unrecognisable when our kids are 40.

I hope you're right(and sure you are). I was talking to some of the wrinklies who are regulars in one of my locals a few years ago when I found out I had a brother who was gay, and the AIDS epidemic in the 80's and how it was first reported(G.R.I.D. and all that bollocks) is still in the forefront of their minds despite all the evidence that has come out since. One of them actually asked me not to bring him to that pub incase he got a glass that my brother drunk out of that had not been washed right. He was a mega-old bloke, but still mind blowing someone could still believe that a)all gay people had HIV/AIDS, and b) that he could catch if from a glass. 

The next step in how we as a society perceive different sexualities, is to drop the term "straight" to describe heterosexuality, as all it does is continue to enforce the perception that heterosexuality is "normal" and all other sexualities are not. 

Also, we had a very similar thread about this subject on a football forum I frequent, and I'll say the same here as I did there. I long for a time where we no longer tell someone who comes out they are brave for doing so, as it will be an everyday thing and not carry any stigma at all. 

As already mentioned, the fact we as a society are now in a position where these huge brands now feel it is in their interest to align themselves with the Pride event shows how far we have all come on the matter. Where I'm from, it still feels like we're 10 years behind the rest of the developed world on these matters, but even here companies are embracing Pride. It wasn't too long ago that flying a Rainbow flag in Barnsley was tantamount to burning the place down, as many would have simply refuse to shop there. It's still not where it should be, but much, much better. 

I've had an experience recently that shocked me. Not that long ago, I found out I had a half brother. It was on his 18th birthday that I made contact with him and while he was "out" to his mum and friends, he tried to hide it from me(despite me knowing). It really upset me, that. I'm heterosexual, and from what I can gather, this is the reason he tried to hide his sexuality from me, as "...I wouldn't understand what it's like to be gay in Barnsley!". Now, I'll be honest, I don't understand. Not in the slightest. But that's not because I think there is anything wrong with him, but in the same way I don't know what it's like to be a woman. It took months to persuade him that i didn't care what his sexuality was or what gender he identified as.

I just can't wait until the need to have a Pride month is gone all together and the ideas that not being heterosexual is "different" is gone. 

It's only a matter of time until we have a woman in charge in mens football. I'm willing to bet that at least a few will make it to the top too(which would be worth it just to see Sol Campbell self-combust when he realises a woman has got a job he applied for!)...

1 hour ago, chokeout said:

Trademarks lapse, usually after 10 years, unless you renew them and that costs money so WWE just sack them off unless it's worth something to them. 

 

Makes sense. Cheers!

Ancelotti was always going to see Everton as a short term job. That's not said with disrespect to Everton at all, just that as MrDanger says, he looks like he's in his retirement tour.

The next appointment is going to be very important fo them though. Get it wrong, and all the good work done over the past few years will be undone and they will go backwards, just like Spurs have done. 

Always though "Adam Bomb" was a WWF created character, and they would still own the trademark. Same with Kronik(WCW, which would have transferred over during the buyout)?

I really hope they can look after Allen and Jungle Boy(who I'd still be insisting used the Jack Perry name), as you have two guys there who could become AEW's franchise players for years to come. Then when you look at the rest of the talent they can develop, people such as Max Caster, Agogo, Nick Comoratto, Powerhouse Hobbs, Ricky Starks, Sammy Guvara, Wardlow and many others I have probably forgot about, you have the nucleus of a mens division to keep them going for years. The woman's side of things needs work still, but it looks like they are going i the right direction.

One thing I would like them to do is promote the World, Woman's and Tag titles equally. It would take some hard work, but allow them to constantly mix up the cards so the main event/top program is not always the men's title match(I know last night is was the Stadium job, but I'm thinking going forward) which means they would not burn though main event match-ups as quickly and make every event feel different.