FUM Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Robert Florence put it right last night on Twitter. Â It's only the fans in Scottish Football who care about sporting integrity. Not the chairmen, not the league or the SFA. We are alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Right. Dunfermline, Raith, Morton and Hamilton have come out against the newco Rangers getting into the SFL1 since the latest document came out, and Dundee are "considering their options" at the moment apparently. Â Obviously the blatant threats are working a treat. Â EDIT: The chairmen in the SFL can't be faulted here surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny McBride Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 They should vote Rangers in and then have a mass resignation of all the other clubs. If Scottish football can't survive without them, let's see how they survive without the rest of Scottish football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Deaq Posted June 29, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 They should vote Rangers in and then have a mass resignation of all the other clubs. If Scottish football can't survive without them, let's see how they survive without the rest of Scottish football. Â All the teams would then go into liquidation then as well would they not? The best thing would be for all the pro/semi registered teams in Scotland across the 3 leagues (by Rangers) to leave the SPL/SFL because of a vote of no confidence, then all vote to hire a new governing body, the start there own league/leagues. Â Bottom line is people can laugh at others who say with out Rangers there is no Scottish football but until its been tried there is no right or wrong answer Rangers broke the rules and need to be punished according to the rules that have been set, what is happening in Scottish football could set a president for other teams in other leagues to go into liquidation but not get punished in the way they should be. Â With or without Rangers Scottish football is dead with the current people running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicsGuy Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 With or without Rangers Scottish football is dead with the current people running the show. Â Surely it's a self-fulfilling prophesy though? Until you try without them, you'll never know. Â As it stands, Rangers will not be the force they were, given they have lost so many good players, have no money to replace them, and are banned from Europe for 3 years so are hardly a good proposition for any incoming players on the off chance a few free agents are contacted. Â Basically, Scottish Football has already lost the force that Rangers once were, so they might as well do the right thing and relegate them to Division 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUM Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Hearts have reported that their rate of season ticket sales has trebled this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Nana Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 A lot of that might be a lot to do with hearts fans feeling that hey have earned their support due to the 5-1 thumping of hibs and wining the Scottish Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicsGuy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 A lot of that might be a lot to do with hearts fans feeling that hey have earned their support due to the 5-1 thumping of hibs and wining the Scottish Cup. Â Why did they wait until this past week though, when it was virtually confirmed there will be no Rangers in the SPL next season, to start trebling season ticket sales? Â It's well known that fans at several clubs have held off buying season tickets, putting pressure on their own particular club to vote against Rangers admission to the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted June 30, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 Could it be also that this season is likely to attract a lot more casual support than before? I know I'd be interested in watching Scottish football this year, simply because this whole Rangers fall-out is momentous enough to interest me in what the outcome is going to be. Â In terms of generating interest, this is sort of a football equivalent of a massive wrestling angle - a lot of people would surely be intrigued as to what's next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 A lot of that might be a lot to do with hearts fans feeling that hey have earned their support due to the 5-1 thumping of hibs and wining the Scottish Cup. Or maybe the fact they could be pushing for 2nd in the SPL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Nana Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 No, because most educated hearts fan's know their is a good chance they won't with our cut backs and all that, anyway Before people get on their argueing hats (by telling me something I already knew) they are still down from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 No, because most educated hearts fan's know their is a good chance they won't with our cut backs and all that, anyway Before people get on their argueing hats (by telling me something I already knew) they are still down from last year. You don't think Hearts can compete with the likes of Motherwell, Dundee United, St Johnstone or Aberdeen? AS far as Motherwell goes, we've had to cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/06/30/4134/  The Club has received a set of papers in advance of the SFL meeting on Tuesday. The essential intent behind those papers is to induce the SFL clubs to agree a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the SFL in the First Division in exchange for a range of structural changes to the current set up and some small financial inducements. Some of the proposed changes have merit in principle. The Board believe that any proposals for change should not be rushed, as these have been. They also have to be done by consensus and not through threat or inducement, again, as these have been.  The papers include a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the First Division. This is contrary to the rules of the SFL and nothing within the papers justifies this proposal.  As a club owned by its supporters and recovering from having been on the brink of extinction, the Board of Clyde Football Club recognise the damage done to the credibility of Rangers Football Club by its successive owners, and the subsequent impact on staff and supporters. These proposals do nothing to restore that credibility.  It is not for us to become involved in punishment, that is a matter for the SPL and SFA. The SFL clubs are being asked to change their rules so that the SPL and SFA can apply sanctions that fit short term financial interests.  It is not for us to tell any club what they should want for themselves, but to enter anywhere other than the Third Division risks Rangers Football Club being burdened with the legacy of commencing its rebuilding in a manner that they later look back on with regret. Rangers Football Club does not need to be handed a competitive advantage, they are more than capable of returning to the SPL via the Third Division on their own merit. Rebuilding from the bottom can restore the dignity stripped from the club by its former owners.  The papers use emotive language to threaten a future of financial meltdown and they carry the implication of the destruction of the game should a Newco not be entered in the First Division. If things are as bad as indicated then Scottish Football is in a far worse state than is being acknowledged. In which case it is time to accept the bankrupt model needs fixed and not supported and perpetuated on the back of this proposal. The fact that other clubs might face similar financial distress because Rangers Football Club enter the Third Division is hardly a reason to compromise the integrity of the SFL and further compromise Rangers Football Club.  Rather than attempting to prepare a soft landing before delivering sanctions, it would be better to contemplate more radical change that might actually underpin financial stability in the long term for clubs that balance their books. Perhaps an amnesty from sanctions for clubs that are forced to face insolvency procedures in the next 2 years as a result of the current turmoil, and an automatic entry to the Third Division for any club liquidated and reformed in similar circumstances. This would allow 2 years to properly restructure the Scottish Game for the benefit of all and undo the damage that has been created by the current structure which encourages club directors to trade integrity for cash, and then spend beyond their means, willingly risking the very existence of football clubs. If we could believe that the game could be less self interested long enough to resolve this, then this, and other far better ideas, might be worth contemplating.  SPL clubs that have openly stated their opposition to a Newco being given immediate access to the SPL have taken the position based on their, and at times, their supporters' view of what is the right thing to do. However, the vote has still to be taken and proposals such as these are premature. If the SPL clubs vote as indicated on the basis of the increasingly discredited notion of sporting integrity, it would be questionable if the SFL clubs did otherwise.  The reality is that we are faced with unique circumstances and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise. That probably means that compromise for some is inevitable, and perhaps even worthwhile for everyone in the long term. The solution however is not this hastily cobbled together proposal.  The Board of this club sees no merit whatsoever in adopting this proposal.  In short... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Nana Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 No, because most educated hearts fan's know their is a good chance they won't with our cut backs and all that, anyway Before people get on their argueing hats (by telling me something I already knew) they are still down from last year. You don't think Hearts can compete with the likes of Motherwell, Dundee United, St Johnstone or Aberdeen? AS far as Motherwell goes, we've had to cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 No, because most educated hearts fan's know their is a good chance they won't with our cut backs and all that, anyway Before people get on their argueing hats (by telling me something I already knew) they are still down from last year. You don't think Hearts can compete with the likes of Motherwell, Dundee United, St Johnstone or Aberdeen? AS far as Motherwell goes, we've had to cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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