The Cutting Edge

Has Page ever been called that as a nickname? Awful if he has.

I'm all for Making this current and on trend but this is a bit too on point.

Maybe if it was a better design with a whiskey bottle and cowboy hat would be more fitting the character

On the subject of Hangman Page, surely his latest t-shirt that just reads "Anxious Millennial Cowboy" in plain white font has to be contender for worst wrestling t-shirt ever?

I know that covers a lot of ground and PWT/AEW bring out new merchandise daily and it's probably already in the past but such a weird slogan or statement.

Just started back watching BTE (watched the last 4 or 5), agree about the Dark Order stuff Lee is great just shouting "fuck" constantly and bullying Silver, it's simple and fun comedy.

Omega has been pretty solid too.

I'm still hoping for Ciampa to be the leader, he's got the militant rogue soldier look, solid promo which I think this team with need, otherwise might be random people stuck together.

A strong leadership whoever it is is important for credibility.

Omega and Bucks need that 2016-7 heel thing going, full on "we believe we're the fucking best" "best bout machine" "no one can touch us" type stuff.

Omega was great as the calm but cocky "Cleaner" with the cocky smug bucks talking him and backing him up.

With Inner Circle kinda cooling off, a top heel trio of The Elite going after Mox then Page chasing them is months of great story to tell but enough of shades of grey stuff they need to go full on heel and make a statement not a whimper.

Kip and Ford are a great lower card act, he kinda reminds me of heel wcw Jericho just a mouthy twat above his station. And makes most of all his tv time.

Together they're like an annoying love island Instagram couple, so smug and "perfect together".

Even the "Bad Boy/Girl" names are suited, two twats that bought black skinny jeans and a cheap leather jacket from Topman and is now a "rockstar/bad boy".

You'll either love or hate them depending on age or what category you fit in.

Yeah I saw his Kurt Angle idea and could see it working for him.

I had to problem with goofy stuff he did because he did it well, but it's more the "when the handcuffs are off I'll you" type stuff...then does the same thing that only got him so far, very early days for him and it's a foot in the door.

Morrison was a similar thing years ago, not being used properly, ideas ignored etc then goes to every company and looks and does same thing...and still does today 10yrs later

I've seen comments about how smart and "meta" AEW are bringing him in doing a wedding angle it's "so tongue in cheek etc"!!

To me that's the goofy shit that "held him back" all these years from being a top guy or whatever he should be, he's a fun guy so not saying bring him in wearing black and serious but don't copy same shit that only got you so far.

Rusev day had its day but no sure what more he wanted from it.

Never been a fan of Rusev/Miro but hope he does well, just no more bitter ex wwe stuff it's been done to death by everyone for over 20yrs.

Hope he adds new stuff to him gimmick rather than just rehashing "miro day" although I'm sure prowrestling tees have made it already, guys like Cardona and Spears have shown how not to do it.

Wish fans would stop with "ex-wwe/tna/aew castoffs" because guys moving from company to company keeps them relevant and all rosters fresh, 80s/90s guys never overstayed there welcome, hopefully in years to come when aew is proper established and not as new guys will be able to move about with the stigma of "ex" to them 

True 

It would be good to see Okada, Naito etc say do shows leading to Double or Nothing in May while the Juniors tournie is on for example.

Probably not gonna happen but would benefit both companies for shots throughout the year

Not a surprising line up which is due to there roster being pretty stale and samey.

I know it's been mentioned before but an AEW deal would really benefit both companies.

1 hour ago, DavidB6937 said:

Haven't they brought up Bianca to do pretty much nothing with her though? I haven't watched Raw regularly but she seems to be there sometimes?

Yeah true forgot about her too, not a fan of hers but should be doing more, but division needs padding out, even stick Shotzi or whoever on and try to bring eyes to nxt while they're at it

What's even odder is the fact they could bring up or use in shortish term nxt women that either need to be called up or not up to much on any show.

Same with the tag scene on both shows, both wafer thin but not adding/using new names, they tried briefly with Vink and Thorne but stopped (they might be on Main Event not sure).

Even out with covid they must have a shit ton of names they could be using to pad out and freshen shows (no more profits vs Vega crew) 

A lot has been said about this so I may have missed something

But is it just about money or is it about guys like AJ talking shit about Heyman etc and others slagging the company?

If so you can imagine in this HR, PR, Clickbait, sensitive world we're in these days then I could see why they don't want guys saying sensitive or stupid shit that gets the company in trouble.

No company likes you slagging them in public especially in the public eye.

But if it's purely wwe wants a piece of the pie then of course that's a different and complicated matter.

Its part of his Under Armour range, Amazon still sell them 

Warrior vs HBK could've been good, as for heels to work with Owen, Bulldog, Vader, Mankind, Faarooq, HHH feuds Would've been a nice mix for him.

But as said he'd have fallen out at some point, he left a lot of money on the table between 96-2000 between wwe and wcw.

Watching the summer of 98 Raws, I'm heading to "breakdown" and remember the intro of Taker and Kane walking down the ramp with two world war 2 planes over them with Vince "my weapons of mass destruction" was really cool visual.

Most intros from mid 90s are great with ominous classic music and sound bytes.

St.Valentine's Day massacre stands out.

Ideally have Reigns as champ from tomorrow til Mania going on a heel spree, by start of the year we should have Uso's, Kofi and Woods back.

E wins the rumble, few months of Reigns/Usos/Heyman heel unit vs New Day all heading to E winning at Mania, hell I'd even stick on Usos vs Kofi Woods in TLC if that feud can kick off properly

59 minutes ago, Supremo said:

Yep. My greatest fear is Roman, Brock and Heyman becoming a heel faction and then Roman turning back face in that shit Randy Orton-Evolution/Seth Rollins-The Authority way, where you only become a face by default because your mates turned on you.

Don’t get me wrong - I’m thrilled they’re at least trying something genuinely new with Roman, and I hope the whole thing is a massive success, but let’s not pretend his entire career doesn’t point to them fucking this up. Nothing would be more fitting to the trajectory of Roman’s career than them cutting his bollocks off in the hope of making him the Brock-conquering babyface one more time. Vince is going to go to his grave trying to get that moment.

This is it though. The time is now. If he doesn’t come out on Sunday in new gear and with new music he never will. Look at the shape he’s in! Brick shithouse! Get this fucker some trunks!

Gotta be new gear, music EVERYTHING time, this could be one of a few things that has come good of 2020. 

Give him the belt tomorrow, boos will come as expected and now part of it as smash the shit out of babyfaces...Hardy, Riddle, Bryan all liked by fans 

Thought it was Pretty solid show.

Zayn being back is good, leads straight into new story, lucky for him looking like shit adds to his character.

Surely no one can moan about Reigns Heyman combo? 

Roman "can't talk" now has a great main event talker for him, he's finally a heel so the boos are right now, he looks solid and gives SD a proper focus.

Surely they've gotta all in and give him new music and gear

As a heel champ Reigns vs Hardy, Riddle could be solid ppv matches to tick them over til .....Big E vs Big Dog at the Biggest Show!!!!

13 minutes ago, Chris B said:

Apparently, NFL etc are doing family/friends and a small number of fans. It sounds much more like the right call. Wouldn't be anything to criticise over them doing that.

Would be best move, fans haven't been at any shows of anything since march and when they get the chance....kkk and Beniot pics.

Nothing new but fans they bring it on themselves 

As said it'll be paid actors and nxt crew before long, with big bad Vince getting the blame as usual.

Otherwise I thought it was a solid show and moved things nicely.

Aleister Black heel turn (hopefully it was) could be good.

Orton was great as always, Drew taking 3 punts might be overkill but at least makes him look tough.

Keith Lee was good going straight to main event scene, forget the backlash of gear and music change, him vs Orton is a great start.

Need to really put an end to Apollo vs Hurt Buisness its been going since April, same with Cerdric either turn him or move on.

Gotta feel for Humberto cos Dom has come in as Reys sidekick, the have kinda similar look too.

10 minutes ago, poetofthedeed said:

Goldberg has maybe 3 matches in him, he's not wasting another one in front of no crowd...... 

Apparently he's signed for 2 a year over next few years, he's done his two for this year but...

I'm sure if they asked and money was on the table he'd be up for it.

1 hour ago, Supremo said:

I’m still very much up for Roman vs. Goldberg.

That's gotta happen, Goldberg called him a disrespectful punk or something on a recent interview/podcast then RR is back, surely on the cards some point, maybe survivor series 

An enjoyable show but they need to draw a line under these feuds and move on, lots of good names missing from the card Hardy, AJ, Sheamus, Riddle, Corbin, KO etc.

Drew vs Orton was good and ending made sense to prolong the story, its only just started and Drew hasn't had a proper long blood feud yet, my guess it'll be 2 outta (nowhere) 3 falls at Payback with Drew win leading to Hell in a Cell for Randy win.

Happy to see Reigns back, SD has really missed him, he has great chemistry with both guys and he came back with loads of fire which is a great start.

Could be good stuff coming up with Lee on Raw, Aleister is maybe coming back possibly with tweaked character, Roman on SD, Ciampa back on NXT