Daaaaaad!

I've said it somewhere else in this thread i think but that's the main reason i'm reluctant to go and see it at the cinema. Just the thought of being stuck in a room with a bunch of twats who won't shut the fuck up and watch the film makes my blood boil.

The thing I found most amusing about the bunch of twats who were in my particular screening was that they didn't seem to click on to the fact that the main characters were, in fact, not them, but more likely were the kids who they used to pick on or bully at school - and laughed regardless.

What? They look well similar! Same tired eye sockets and everything.

Jake Gyllenhaal, who loves Pok

Not a chance unless WWE are looking for skinny-boy tag team squash fodder.

- Rhino is expected back as part of The Embassy down the line.

 

Get in bloody love Rhino

He definitely should be back. They sold the Gore like it killed Homicide. I heard he suffered a legit cracked rib - see the previous page - but that's how it should always be sold. Stuff like that really builds for the future rather than just being a narrowminded short term 'this is awesome' midmatch move.

I genuinely think it'd be a better idea, though, to have Edwards turn on Richards. The opposite is so obvious and the fans support Davey regardless of alignment, so why not have Edwards beat him, Davey goes for a handshake, Eddie grabs him and knees him in the balls, declares himself to be the stronger American Wolf and go from there?

Whereas Davey is, so the fans will follow him regardless until he does win. Same as Bryan before he finally won it, or Homicide. As for Roddy, he was at one point though and that's also a similar situation. Point is, Richards isn't going to go away any time soon, will always be over and the idea that a loss will 'harm' him is the stuff of nonsense. In fact, it could quite easily boost him by motivating a heel turn.

That's not the greatest booking argument I've ever heard - "ROH fans are such marks for Richards that we can throw logic out of the window".

Didn't Roderick Strong lose thirteen title matches before he got his short reign? And was he not still fairly over despite all of that? Richards is twice as over as Strong has ever been. When a loss won't hurt you, it's okay to take it. People are always citing win-loss records as being important, but I point to The Rock as being someone that lost all the time and yet was over as hell. Now Richards isn't anywhere near The Rock, but in the small scheme of ROH things, he'd be quite alright losing. Take a look at Danielson who would quite often lose to people yet was never far away from the main event.

What credibility? It's ROH and he's Davey Richards. He could lose to Call-Me-Kevin and he'd still have enough credibility to challenge for the title the next show. Losing to Edwards is the best result by far, brings the most drama.

I know people think Moffat's timewimeyness is clever but I'm getting tired of the "I'm from the future, I know how this will end, you know how this will end, we all know how this will end" plot. The first time I liked it but less and less so.

I'd have to agree with this actually. The cyclical plots are getting a little tiresome, in a similar way to RTD's constant use of 'OMG world exploding WAIT deusexmachina everything's fine'. I guess, though, that the fact we don't have those 'magic saves the world' moments any more is why Moff's stories are so much better in comparison.

That and the River Song revelation seems very odd when River was amazed to meet Donna but seemed considerably less so at meeting her own mother before she was pregnant.

To be fair, she probably never expected to meet Donna, whilst she seemed to know she'd meet her mother in the future and exactly when and where that would be.

Also, the next episode has a swashbuckling female character called 'Jenny'. I won't, but does anyone need that spelling out...?

 

I'm sure if you follow the daughter path, you'll get there.

I dunno where they got the idea that she was called Jenny, actually. She was called Lorna. Very odd.

 

Those were two different characters. Lorna was the girl that was working for the clerics, Jenny was the Silurian's maid/girlfriend.

Yeah I figured about half an hour after I posted that. Didn't even click on, but in any event if anyone was more likely to be 'Doctor's Daughter' Jenny then it would've been Lorna, oddly enough.

Also, the next episode has a swashbuckling female character called 'Jenny'. I won't, but does anyone need that spelling out...?

 

I'm sure if you follow the daughter path, you'll get there.

I dunno where they got the idea that she was called Jenny, actually. She was called Lorna. Very odd.

As a side note, I like to pretend that the "handsome young time agent" off whom he stole the vortex manipulator for River was Captain Jack, and that the Maldovarium was the bar in which we saw Jack in 'The End of Time'. But that's probably just me, especially on the latter.

I think Moffat basically said as much in Confidential, IIRC. River has both Jack's squareness gun and vortex manipulator.

You're taking the piss, surely?

Joke account.

Joke account.

EDIT: Okay, so... What?

the only thing that struck me watching it first time was has he fixed the chameleon circuit?

It was pretty heavily implied that River Song did it whilst the Doctor was prancing around.

Is there really any need for the Dexter-baiting?

What? EVOLVE is supposed to be presenting itself as nearer to MMA than to WWE. If they're already booking screwjobs and the like, it proves that the experiment with a more sports-based wrestling isn't working quite as well as Gabe anticipated.

What's the story there?

Near as I can tell is that Cabana has basically stopped wrestling and started just doing pure comedy. Even in his 'serious feud' matches, he still has to get his comedy spots in and I think it's pissing the fanbase off.

8. Johnny Gargano defeated Chuck Taylor. Dallas makes Reby Sky throw in the towel when Gargano has Taylor in a crossface. Gargano gets the win and is now 6-2 and the win leader in EVOLVE. Chuck leaves angry while the fans chant "You screwed Chuck." Gargano says "Chuck screwed Chuck" and praises himself.

Exactly the kind of shit you'd complain about if WWE did it.

Re the Aries/Tough Enough thing, I'm under the impression that 'MDogg 20' Matt Cross is going to be on the show, so perhaps that's what upset Aries so much.

Even more ridiculous is the notion Shawn Michaels might be dressed as the Undertaker, which he would never have done (expect that time in 1998).

And last year... sort of, it was white gear.

Here's a few questions, that would be interesting to hear your views on:

 

Sting has a full time job in real life. I was listening to an interview with him last year, where he was saying he has to take long breaks from TNA (I dont think Sting ever wrestled the full 12 months for them), because he has to run his church and do all the stuff that comes with that. Would Sting's schedule free him of everything WWE would want him to do? He doesnt just drop his Christian lifestyle for wrestling. He's big into it. WWE wouldnt pay him high-six figures (that he'd be after), to let Sting dictate when he shows up and when he leaves like he did in TNA. I remember Sting was advertised for Genesis last year and he just rang up on the day saying "sorry lads". In 2011, it seems like an impossible dream. He's was really out of shape due to a fucked up shoulder last time we saw him on TV. There seems to be a few things that would prevent him from just jumping back into the ring. Surely he'd have done the WWE match by now if both sides really wanted it? Its not like this year is the first time he's been out of contract in the last 10 years. They spoke before, and its not worked out.

What people seem to be forgetting is that WrestleMania is in Atlanta this year - surely that is the main reason the Sting rumours are breaking out? Nobody's saying that WWE haven't attempted to sign him before (hell, there's a very interesting YouTube clip that shows that he was close to signing for the InVasion) it was more based on the fact that circumstances seem to have fallen into place whereby Sting, being out of contract, could sign a short-term deal with WWE to work a match at WrestleMania which is taking place at what was the homeland of WCW back in the day. Now just seems like the most likely time.

Fuck, let's not lose sight of the fact that cunting Bret Hart was at WrestleMania last year. That's something we quite literally thought would never happen. I really don't think it will happen this year (although I DO think he'll go in the Hall of Fame) but I still hope it will, and if it does, I'll be marking out along with the rest.

New vignette, just aired on tonight's RAW:

Fuck Glacier, they just signed Nash. Let's get Super Shredder voiced by Uncle Phil. The ultimate tag team!