Daaaaaad!

1PW Openweight Championship: Darren Burridge vs. AJ Styles, from 1PW Know Your Enemy 2008.

 

Zack Sabre Jr vs. Chris Hero, from 1PW 3 Year Anniversary Show.

 

Zack Sabre Jr vs. Claudio Castagnoli; Tournament final from A-Merchandise 'Live Professional Wrestling', Faringdon.

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention Lionheart vs. Dave Moralez from 1PW All Hope Is Gone. Spectacularly underrated.

Before Gabe went I would've agreed, but I think they're probably trying to establish a different direction for ROH. It is still a little odd, but I suppose this is the way they're trying to go, which is fair enough.

What is the longest match, Bell to bell in history?

I've got a feeling that somewhere along the line I read about a Punk/Hero match that lasted 93mins, but I'm not at all sure on that. The longest Rumble match was 1hr 9mins, but again I'd be willing to bet that a few 'indie classics' have gone longer than that.EDIT: The Punk/Hero match that went 93mins was a 2/3 Falls match. This Wojick interview seems to semi-confirm it: http://wrestlingclothesline.com/Wojcik-Punk.htm

Pretty much, yeah. They aren't all setting the world alight, but conversely there hasn't been a 'bad' one so far.

I wouldn't even be worried about him beating me up - it's what else he'd do to me that'd frighten me.

I'll confirm for everyone now: Ronin is not number one.

He's number two.

Haha! I'm continuously trying to encourage someone to name their finish the IPS Driver - it KILLS EVERYONE DEAD. For a week.

So wait, the company is actually called 'Power Trip Wrestling'?Hah!EDIT: Oh, and Mayhem won't be on the next show, he's injured.

I don't. It makes sense in a storyline like this to work it in rather than plain and simply admit 'yeah, we can't afford to pay everyone any more so we're rotating'. Especially when Hero's character is all about the dollar.

I wracked my brains for this one and the only name I could come up with that hadn't already been mentioned was Yoshihiro Tajiri.EDIT: Obviously not the ONLY name, but the only one I'd be interested in seeing.

Mab is Alex Shane: Life Coach, isn't he?

It's all about the way Regal's face changes when T-Lo and Cryme Tyme pass him and he smiles wider than I've ever seen him smile before.

Resurrection was utterly, utterly terrible, to the point where 1PW themselves have even had the sense to disown it. Even the awesome Burridge/Cabana vs. Williams/McGuinness match couldn't save it.

Quite agree with Nigel, really - he makes some good points and I'm glad he doesn't actually stoop to the 'you aren't a wrestler, you can't understand it' argument.

Wait, so you are professional writers?

How many times can this thread be ressurected by moral outrage?

THEY DID IT AGAIN!!!*runs around pointing at NickMills*

I've actually censored "Ressurection" and "Ressurrection" on the 1PW board; I'm that sick of people misspelling it.

They've apologised? Other than the guy that runs the 1PW fancast, Dingbat, who seems to have been watching a different match to any other reports, I'm unaware of a direct apology.And I'm not going to even touch what impact said (or let him suggest I was 'senoring' his thoughts), as I don't really need to. Let's face it, who has he convinced with his badly written, badly argued take? And besides, my g-string is chafing.

Sorry, but I don't recall reading your recap of the show and how offended you were when you saw Smothers say what he said?Ah, of course; you weren't there, as with quite a number of other people who have commented upon this issue. There's no problem with that, of course, but these 'other reports' you seem to be talking about all seem to be focused around one report.EDIT: By no means construe this as a claim that it didn't happen, but I take offence to you seemingly badmouthing my recollection of events; I was actually at the show to be offended.

*idiocy*

Congratulations. I spent near four pages putting out a proper argument and defending my local promotion, and you just ruined any hope I had of continuing a sensible debate in one post.

You think this is bad.I go to 3CW shows in Billingham where the audience still finds it acceptable to shout "Paki! Paki!", "Go wash your skin!" and "You stink of curry!" at Asian wrestlers, and "Ching Chong Chinaman!" at Japanese wrestlers...

Mid-Summer Showdown sure was fun this year wasn't it?

But Hamrick was joining in the 'faggot' jokes? And Tighe and Simmons were playing up to them?

Tighe and Simmonz prompted the 'faggot' jokes with their dancing in the 'dance-off', apparently inspiring Tracey to make a comment. The dresswearing was what caused the 'faggots' chant afterwards.

Whereas I think it couldn't be more obvious that this incident paints 1PW in a bad light all by itself.

Not really. I'd say it reflects badly on Tracey Smothers and Chris Hamrick more than anything; that is, for anyone who isn't continuously trying to trace it back to the promotion.

By 'a couple of jokes', do you mean "Smothers takes the microphone "How are you Doncaster Donkeys" he continues talking about how 1PW is 2 years old before calling Simmonz and Tighe fagots. Hamrick takes the microphone "You two are ass down, face up, pillow facing homosexual fags". Smothers then calls for a Dance -Off! Simmonz and Tighe dance a little too close to each other, causing the fans to chant 'Fagots'?"Or was it something non-homophobic? If this is down to a primarily inaccurate show report, and it was, in fact, just one comment from Smothers post-match, and the crowd went with it, then I'll happily ask for the thread to be renamed 'Tracy Smothers Homophobia'. If it was Smothers and Hamrick, with Tighe and Simmons playing up to it, then I'd say that was a 1PW segment.

I sure as hell don't remember 'ass down face up' at all. I think I'd have noticed something like that.

He had to apologise twice in one night for language? Ouch. That's not going to come across as professional, is it?

Couldn't be more obvious that you're trying to use this incident to paint 1PW in a bad light, really. And to be fair, one was James Wallace; he's excessively rude at the politest of times.

The only reasons I can think is that Simmons and Tighe were playing up to it in the dance off, and that Smothers and Hamrick work a redneck gimmick. Those two reasons still aren't good enough to justify it, but that's all I got.

How does me asking you for clarification imply ANYTHING to you? I didn't contradict you. I said I was under the impression that Stevie apologised for a separate incident. Then asked what specific apology he made about the 'match'.What does that imply?I called it 1PW homophobia because it took place at a 1PW event. For ten minutes. This isn't like that 1PW kid that jumped off an apron and hurt himself that was nothing to do with 1PW, because it took place in less than a minute. This was the beginning, the middle and the end of the entire match.

Uh, no it wasn't. In fact Simmonz and Tighe began the whole thing by challenging Southern Comfort to a 'classic' 1PW dance off, but Simmonz kept dancing towards Tighe and grinding against him. Smothers made a couple jokes, then the match got on. It wasn't 'til the end of the match that the 'Faggots' chant began.

If it had happened at an IPW show, I'd have called it IPW homophobia. If it had happened at an XWA show, I'd call it XWA homophobia. And I'd also see it as THEIR responsibility, because if they don't know what's going to happen in their matches, then they're not responsible bookers. This wasn't one comment. This was the ENTIRE segment.So, what did Stevie say in his apology about that segment?

All Stevie did was apologise for the language used in the previous segment.

Did I misread the write up of the match, or was it totally inaccurate? Smothers and Hamrick made continued comments at the beginning of the match too, and throughout. Not JUST at the end. And meanwhile, Simmons and Tighe played up to it throughout the match.If that's inaccurate, what really happened?

See above for my recollection of events.

And other than a handful of people, how many people are booked for future 1PW shows? They have a full card for the next show already?

They certainly have most of their drawing talent booked, yes.

I was under the impression that Stevie Aaron apologised for James Wallace's language. What did he say to apologise for the ten minute homophobic segment masquerading as a match?

See, that just further implies to me that this (for you) isn't an issue about Tracy Smothers or Chris Hamrick and their comments - you're making out that it's about 1PW, which is why your thread's subtitle is "1PW homophobia"; am I right?

Also, I'd suggest that 1PW shouldn't book SoCo again, should release a public statement apologising for any offense called, taking measures to make sure it won't happen again, and excising the segment from the DVD release so they don't seem to be trying to profit from it.

Well here's as much as I can tell you; Smothers and Hamrick aren't booked for any further 1PW shows (and have no outstanding storylines at any rate) and it's very unlikely that the end of the match will be on the DVD anyway, since they tend to cut off before there's any opportunity for licensed music to be used in keeping with 1PW's retail DVD distribution deal. So that's nothing to worry about.

But why apologise for something that could happen again? Im lost - if it could happen again then you dont see it being a problem so why apologise?

How am I to know? I'm stating what I know and theorising as to anything else. First you were offended that they'd allowed this and hadn't apologised, then you ask why there was an apology issued?

Why did the MC apologise then if its the parent's responsibility for knowing what to expect?

Probably to avoid situations like this, but look how well that turned out.