Keith Houchen

You should do that all the time, it'll be great.

Duane has a couple of weeks. He seems like a nice enough guy but he's too frustrating. He causes stupid arguments and then pisses of without justifying himself. Deliberate or not, it's just trolling.

Oh yeah, I totally agree.

Why would anyone need to discredit Happ? Read his posts.

I believe that's known as a WHOOSH.

How do we know that Happ actually did all that and it's not some conspiracy by the mods and paidos to discredit him in the eyes of the forum? [/duane] Speaking of which, when is Duane back? I know he's a fruitloop but he's not a nasty fruitloop.

Will there be a UKFF CD Swap this year?

There will be if you run one!

Louis Theroux's Documentary on Prison life in Miami is pretty good so far. I also recently watched Strangeways which shows a complete contrast as to how easy British prison life is to get through compared to others.

 

Isn't Theroux's documentary specifically about jail (where they're held while awaiting trial) as opposed to prison itself (where they go after they've been sentenced)?

Yep.

If I recall correctly, more tax is raised through the sales of tobacco than the cost of treating smokers. However, the argument only works if the tax money raised from tobacco was spend solely on healthcare, but all tax revenue goes into one bit pot and id distributed accordingly. I'm happy to be proven wrong, or shown the correct stats etc but my understanding is that healthcare gets less than 10% of the full allocation of revenue. If that makes sense??

I don't get that line of thinking at all.

 

If I pay you, the tax administrator,

It's a bit of a false economy though, smokers pay far more into the system in the tax on their cigerattes than they cost through the various ailments it courses. Not too mention how much of a strain they take away from the pension and social care budget by being good enough to die before anyone else.

If every smoker actually quite tomorrow it'd fuck stuff right up, so repeatedly hammering them with ridiculous tax hikes seems a little short sighted.

 

I've heard that before, but is it factually true? Sounds like it could easily be one of those urban myths that gets repeated so often it gets accepted as fact.

 

If someone could provide some stats or something, it'd help.

If I recall correctly, more tax is raised through the sales of tobacco than the cost of treating smokers. However, the argument only works if the tax money raised from tobacco was spend solely on healthcare, but all tax revenue goes into one bit pot and id distributed accordingly. I'm happy to be proven wrong, or shown the correct stats etc but my understanding is that healthcare gets less than 10% of the full allocation of revenue. If that makes sense??

EDIT - So going by that, and the figures Ronnie posted, of the 10bn raised in excise, less than 1bn goes directly to the treatment. However it's not a clear cut thing as you can argue the same for fatty foods, alcohol etc.

This week's was my favourite of the series so far.

Same here, possibly the best thing he has done, TV wise.

Some rapes involve brutal assualt while some involve no physical violence at all.

Everyrape contains physical violence, saying some rapes contain no physical violence is just wrong. I agree that there are varying degrees of assault but there is always an assault.

Yay! just kicked off at the press conference, Bellow called him a fucking rat. It's brilliant, great way of selling the fight!

Loki, that's nonsense, he has to go. What he said, and it wasn't taken out of context or anything, showed a complete lack of understanding around rape. He called predatory attacks "Classic rape" when in fact this is the least common form of rape. He was making out that some rapes are less serious and violent than others and that is terrible.

Nice one, Haraga! You're absolutely right, buzzing about that game. It's a strange one for me, Beaton was always good to me when I was an up and comer and Rand was my best man at my first wedding. I will be cheering on Scott and (as impartial as I can be) think he has the form to take out the Bronzed Adonis.

Butch, yeah I've checked out 170 twice in legit games, one being the Midlands Open where I picked up about 25 nicker for the highest finish. Highest finish at county level was 156.

EDIT - Wedding instead of marriage.

Good arrows.

Can we implement something where anyone who asks "whats this pcc business all about" for the millionth time gets a 2 day suspension or something along those lines?

 

This.

 

Also, if anybody asks any non-UKKF-related questions in here such as "Where's the cheapest place to get a bag of cement from?" then they too should be slapped with a suspension. Can we make that the law around these parts too?

Yeah, anything that can be answered with a "Let me Google that for you" is fair game.

Bet rick wish he'd never came up with the whole pCc thing now.

Nice one, Chest, will check that out later.

Was recording something myself but my Bass died so I need to either get it fixed or get a new one. I'll probably get a new one then get the old one fixed.

And copies of Cosmo.

A genuine UKFF conspiracy?

 

That's got to be the most pathetic thing I've seen.

At least you weren't at a show where UKFF members tried to start chants of their usernames to see if people knew who they were.

So we can condone bullying or ban a legit spacker? We can't win.

Legit sex offenders are ok, why not legit spackers?

I'd like to see Duane address the points made though, then get rid of him (I jest of course, I think he will have a full on breakdown at some point but banning him from here might be a small, contributing factor towards it and where is the fun in that if we can't read about it on here?)

Following on from Sickboy's points, I can't be the only one who rolled their eyes at International Women's Day there? Furthermore, a new Irish government was sworn in yesterday and only two women became ministers. Cue uppity feminists throwing their toys out of the pram. I thought we were all supposed to be equal? It should be noted that the biggest feminist I know regularly updates her Facebook boasting about how she gets reduced taxi fares by flirting with the driver.

 

I'm off to start The Official Misogynist Thread.

This is a brilliant piece by Mariella Frostrup about International Women's Day

In the western world the greatest triumph of spin in the last century is reflected in attitudes to feminism. Our struggle for emancipation and equality has been surreptitiously rewritten as a harpy bra-burning contest while elsewhere, in less affluent parts of the world, the response is altogether different. From Mozambique to Chad, South Africa and Liberia, Sierra Leone to Burkina Faso, feminism is the buzzword for a generation of women determined to change the course of the future for themselves and their families. At female gatherings all over sub-Saharan Africa you'll find enthusiasm and eager signatories to the cause.

 

Not, they're quick to point out, that they're fans of the strident man bashing we enthusiastically took part in during feminism's second wave. Theirs is a quiet, dignified and entirely implacable determination to make equality not just an aspiration but a reality, in the areas of life where it most counts, from government to enterprise. And they're achieving it, too. Under the banner of Gender is My Agenda, with the encouragement of the African Union, which has named this the Decade of African Women, small women's groups across the African continent are coming together to lobby, draw strength, learn leadership and conflict-negotiating skills and support each other in creating and sustaining small businesses.

 

Women's role in conflict resolution was highlighted in Liberia, first in ending the bloody reign of Charles Taylor and then in electing the first ever female African president, the recent Nobel Peace prize nominee Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf. Johnson-Sirleaf has also this year won the coveted African Gender Award for helping poor women send children to school and for developing a female enterprise fund. In neighbouring Rwanda, women now outnumber men in parliament (by 52% to 48% men).

 

Conversely, in the UK there are more blokes called Dave and Nick in government than there are women MPs. Women continue to hover at a steady 19% in the chamber, put off perhaps by a testosterone-fuelled climate where the last two prime ministers' wives have given up high- flying careers to support their husbands or simply to satisfy the perceived demands of middle England. Meanwhile, deputy prime minister Nick Clegg, instead of receiving praise, was drowned in a chorus of derision for attempting a degree of shared parenting with his working wife Miriam.

 

In the face of such continuing inequities, do a straw poll in a room full of modern Brits and you'll find that those willing to commit to the F word are few and far between. But, Top Gear presenters aside, I wonder if members of either sex actually disagree with what feminism set out to achieve, which is the social, economic and political equality of the sexes (see any definition for confirmation of those goals). Better yet, it's a battle we've all but won. Time for a pat on the back to all concerned, and special thanks to Emmeline Pankhurst, Germaine Greer and the rest.

 

The myth of equality, or near enough, was one I fell for like so many others until I was asked to participate in a debate at the Royal Geographical Society a few years ago. "We're All Feminists Now" asserted the motion

New mothers on facebook are a pain in the arse.

Word.

Haha! Cheers, Chest, hope it didn't start your night on the wrong foot.

Might re do that tune with a change to the drums, thanks for the feedback. From an 8 minute slow burner to industrial thrash

I'm Jewish. You starting something mate?

The liquidising on the non paid ghetto, probably.

Labour have pretty much destroyed the future of their party.

Yes, they have been doing so badly in the opinion polls lately, haven't they.