Dynamite Duane

By reading the link to that definition you appear to be suggesting Hollie's mother abused her for attention and she wasn't abused by her father and brother?

No offence, can you reply properly please?

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I really don't think you've read up on the story, to be fair you need to know the full story to argue against it being true or not.

Spineless standing up for a cause?

^ Post edited with link.

No one wants it to be true but I appreciate you being cynical, who wouldn't be?

You can answer my question too, if you like? (top of page)

There might be a link but what's the point? You have a fixed mindset and will probably knock it either way.

I was told by the said people in person at an event in Bournemouth, from the horses mouth as it were.

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Misinformation

Robert Green and Belinda McKenzie.

Tell me this: what has Hollie Greig and her mother got to gain by making up their story? Hollie has been awarded

Perhaps I ought to change my user name to Tin Foil Hat Wearer

Anyone ever wonder whey the Quakers are called the Quakers

I found this to be a very interesting read:

 

http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/2010...h-lies-too.html

 

The webmaster of the official Hollie Greig blog claiming they and many other people have been duped. It's a bit of a rant, but interesting nevertheless.

From what I've been told this blog site is misinformation and no longer to be trusted as a reliable source.

This past Saturday there was a rally in London's Trafalgar Square against child abuse, with victims and supporters doing speeches.

Well ignore those and reply to mine then.

I'd ignored the whole thread by then since the tone dropped so low, so only saw your reply when Woyzeck linked back/mentioned it.

Replying to Loki in a thread of this nature is a waste of energy.

 

...Usually if I quote evidence of something then Loki has the habit of coming along and coming out with something about aliens or whatever....

 

Shame the usual idiots can't stay on topic and decide to do the usual predictable trolling just as it gets good.

 

You spineless shit Duane. You don't reply because you can't. You're a nice bloke but your complete inability to laugh at yourself makes you look like a right wanker sometimes.

Look mate, I can laugh at myself I'm not Tom Cruise ya know

I found Shep's joke funny in a previous thread, when he mentioned HG Wells and Woking.

I have a laugh when appropriate and serious when appropriate.

Where it gets twisted is where you and others love to bring in daft stuff about aliens and lizards etc, belittling me and making out I'm a gullible idiot. Fair enough have a laugh but it gets a bit cuntish!

I deal in facts, what can be proven when it comes to these causes. I totally agree about the lizard shapeshifters or aliens conspiracy theory being wacky, for christ sakes

As David has said Icke researches the material for his books and lectures quoting others, it's not simply THEORY.

Replying to Loki in a thread of this nature is a waste of energy.

 

I changed the link in my sig because it's relevant to this thread, I want people to check it out for themselves. I stopped responding to the Hollie Greig thread since there was no point, it was all trolling.

 

We can all bury our heads in the sand about problems in the world but they won't go away. Usually if I quote evidence of something then Loki has the habit of coming along and coming out with something about aliens or whatever....

 

Shame the usual idiots can't stay on topic and decide to do the usual predictable trolling just as it gets good.

 

God you're a fucking wretch.

 

"it was all trolling"

 

There was a link in there to a piece written by the guy who ran the Hollie Greig campaign who said he'd been conned and it was all bollocks. It's not trolling for people to have the differing opinion in a debate. If you'd had actual conviction in your beliefs, rather than this lilly-cocked fantasy world where we all need to open our eyes, but you'll squeeze yours shut the second something comes along and disproves something you really, really want to believe, you'd have been able to respond like a regular person.

 

Please explain how the link in that thread was...

 

the usual idiots can't stay on topic and decide to do the usual predictable trolling

 

This may be the most pathetic get-out I've ever seen in all my years of internetting.

 

It's a pretty sweet example of the whole conspiracy mindset though.

 

"Can't you see the truth, sheeple? Stop burying your heads in the sand!"

*Something that proves a wacky theory is nonsense*

*buries head in sand*

 

For anyone wondering, here's the thread in question, with Duane urging us to get in touch with our MPs and GET JUSTICE! Loki's post is on the second page.

Loki might well have had a valid point in that thread, posting some "evidence", sadly taking a look back at that thread it's clear the majority of replies are childish and pathetic.

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Read Loki's post. That blog is misinformation.

I've met the people working on the campaign and told me about this blog site.

3rd one of the programmes about the Amish teenagers about to start on 4.

Anyone else been watching the programme about the Queen and her relationships with the PMs? It's been pretty good.

There's also been a documentary on More4 about 1984 and the coal miners strike, along with one on the Brighton Bomb. The impact of the explosion missed Thatcher by inches apparently.

Started on watching UFC 70 a bit earlier. What happened to Eddie Bravo doing the scores?

Replying to Loki in a thread of this nature is a waste of energy.

I changed the link in my sig because it's relevant to this thread, I want people to check it out for themselves. I stopped responding to the Hollie Greig thread since there was no point, it was all trolling.

We can all bury our heads in the sand about problems in the world but they won't go away. Usually if I quote evidence of something then Loki has the habit of coming along and coming out with something about aliens or whatever....

Shame the usual idiots can't stay on topic and decide to do the usual predictable trolling just as it gets good.

I don't like the bloke, he gets the sack then gets another job. He was running the show towards the end and kept reappearing like a turd that wouldn't flush. Clearly a Bilderberger in with the Rothschilds.

Have to say that I really found Mandelson's book surprisingly great. Well written and a good background on the history of New Labour. I'd have liked a more personal approach with more of a look into his childhood and personal life, as he seemed to just glaze over this, but overall it was excellent.

 

Keeping with the political theme I'm now reading,

 

From New Jerusalem to New Labou: British Prime Ministers from Attlee to Blair.

 

Basically, it's a set of short essays on the 11 post-war Prime Ministers.

Does Mandy's book mention anything about his Bilderberg group membership?

I'm reading Flat Earth News by Nick Davies.

Award winning Guardian reporter exposing, falsehood, distortion, and propaganda in the global media.

See a prediction of something like 9/11 I tend to be impressed by depending on how loose it is.

He doesn't mention the likes of 9/11 in detail, but he does talk about his system that he claims would explain the so-called myth that such incidents are pre-planned;

 

Problem-reaction-solution

 

In Tales From The Time Loop (2003), Icke argues that most organized religions, especially Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are Illuminati creations designed to divide and conquer the human race through endless conflicts, as are racial, ethnic, and sexual divisions. He cites the Holocaust, the Oklahoma City bombing, and 9/11 as examples of events organized by the Global Elite. The incidents allow the Elite to respond in whatever way they intended to act in the first place, a concept Icke calls "order out of chaos," or "problem-reaction-solution". There are few, if any, public events that are not engineered, or at least used, by the Brotherhood in their bid to sow division and centralize power. He suggested that the 1996 Dunblane massacre, for example, was organized by the Elite to strengthen gun laws.

 

"You want to introduce something you know the people won't like. This may be more power to the police, a further erosion of basic freedoms, even a war. You know that if you offer these policies openly the people will react against them. So you first create a problem, a rising crime rate, more violence, a terrorist bomb, a government collapse, etc.

 

You make sure someone else is blamed for this problem and not you, the real people behind it all. So you create a "patsy," as they call them in America, a Timothy McVeigh or a Lee Harvey Oswald. You then use your media to tell people what they should think about your manufactured event and who they should blame for it. This brings us to stage two, the reaction from the people

Joking aside, it is 1000000% true about the freemasons running this place. I've seen it with my own eyes.

neil's a freemason?

*Isle of Wight

Care to share some of this?

David, I just watched that Stephen Fry video from Icke's site you posted a link to. Brilliant speech.

What Icke is doing is an integral part of the waking up process the human species needs to do. We need to break out of old fixed ideas, be more child-like and question more.

Found this Telegraph news link via UKColumn, relates to common purpose:

David Cameron's Big Society is a grotesque fantasy inspired by leftist subversive Saul Alinsky

I've not read any of Icke's books apart from an excerpt I picked up from a meeting by a group called the British Constitution Group - part of the Lawful Rebellion movement. What I read is a photocopy of pages 332-341 from ...and the truth shall set you free. Presumably the book is not far off 15-20 years old, since it states it's the most explosive book of the 20th century.

Basically within these few pages it exposes many of our politicians being part of one club and serving a common purpose. Icke quotes a scientist by the name of Kitty Little who tells of her story of an attempt to recruit her into the Communist party at Oxford University in 1940. There she heard of the plot to destroy British manufacturing industry, changeover to a centralised Marxist rule of Europe and bring about the current situation we have with the political parties being so similar that there is no real choice.

I've listened to a audio interview with Kitty Little, I recommend it and reading up on what Icke has to say. Yes some of what Icke professes sounds wacky or sensationalist, some theory and bit out there but a hell of a lot of that is well researched truth we'd rather not be true.

Anyone recall the speech by the newly married partnership of Clegg and Cameron? They used the phrase "common purpose".

Common Purpose is in bold for a reason, google them and Julia Middleton.

I prefer this personally. Who knew the Isle of Wight was the centre of the mafia lizard world http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/37099-d...of-wight-mafia-

 

Freemasons, Satanists and Paedophiles running the show over there, Icke says it so it must carry gravitas and so on.

Just read background info on headline

I don't disbelieve Icke, if you don't believe the guy, the answer is to do your own research.

Freemasons, Satanists and Paedophiles - these 3 words may put people off with the sensational headline but Icke gets more right than wrong.

As has been said in the 2012 thread, we're headed to a change of consciousness as opposed to the end of the world. Icke's work is helping wake people up and bring about a raised consciousness. In fact the evil happenings such as 9/11, 7/7 are helping as well, despite attempts by the elite to perform the opposite.

It's all cyclical.

Boom, bust, boom, bust...

Of course with a bit in between

The same with parties/PMs being in power. Gordon Brown has gone because the economy is down the pan, shame Blair didn't go because of his wrong doings sending our young men to war but that would have broken the cycle.

Anyone else been watching the Channel 4 programme from a group of Amish teenagers experiencing a life in the UK? It's pretty good.

I'm also part way through a programme about the Queen in the 70s. It's a documentary with acting too. Interesting to see how many protested against the money the Royals received in hard economic times, there seems to be little anger against them currently.

Also been enjoying Miranda and The IT Crowd for a giggle

Apple a day keeps the Doctor away, nah, that gif of Rosie Webster just did wonders for my circulation