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Rollins vs. Owens is seeming likely for Mania isn't it?   After the match Owens gets on the mic, blames Texas for him losing, out comes Austin, a couple of stunners and some beer.

PWInsider posted yesterday that they believe it will be a UK stadium show on that TBA date.

2 hours ago, The Ratt said:

The Hall of Fame video history package set to Metallica's Sad But True on Smackdown is pretty cool and worth a watch. 

Seamless transition into American Badass too.   Great video.

51 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

 Anyone actually going?

Yes, I'm going.

The press release says "additional inductees will be announced shortly"

It's only 90 minutes and it's live, so I'm guessing there will only be one or two others.

19 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

I'm curious if Cody will be the one to bring it up, or if that will fall to a "shocking shoot promo" from one of his opponents. I can see them just giving him the Drew McIntyre, "he left, came back, and is better now than when he left" treatment, without stopping to question whether "wrestlers get better when they leave WWE" is a narrative they really want to be putting out there in the first place.

I can already hear Michael Cole robotically shouting "THE FORBIDDEN DOOR!", though.

I'm sure all Cole will say is "could it be?"

Is his name Paul Singh ?

He wrestled on a UK tour with The Iron Sheik in 1994, although not neccesarily against The Iron Sheik.

13 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

Not really. He reported the whole thing as fact, with a single aside suggesting that, because it's wrestling, you can't completely rule out it being a work. 

It isn't a work. I'll eat my hat if it is. 

Just covering himself, so IF it does end up being a work he can say he said it COULD be.

1 hour ago, Loki said:

they've had cameramen inside the Hell In A Cell before, and inside Wargames too.

Bit different, as they weren't actually in the ring.   

They've done things before when a cameraman will jump in the ring for a big move usually the finish, they did it quite regularly on Superstars years ago, but a cameraman being in the ring for the whole match seems insane, but I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if it's good or not.

PWInsider reports 205 Live is finished, being replaced with NXT:Level Up.   Probably be thr same style as 205 Live, except they say it’ll be a 60 minute show.

We’ll need the answers to know how well we did !

2 hours ago, wandshogun09 said:

 

I remember watching a Steve Blackman shoot interview where he talked about his brief time in the WWF in 87 before he got really sick with malaria or something. Can’t even imagine where he’d have fit in on the roster during that time. It’s weird to even think about. 

 

Hulk Hogan, in a match for me.    I saw him appear live many times, for WWE and TNA, but never saw him wrestle.   There was that one time at TNA when he was scheduled for a 6 man tag, but got taken out backstage and removed from the match!   What was worse was that on the house shows on that tour that 6 man tag did happen and ended up being his last ever match.   Luckily I got to see Steve Austin wrestle once, in about his 10th to last ever match.   Never got to see Bret Hart wrestle either, although as with Hogan, saw him appear many times in various promotions.

Generally though, as I only started going to live shows in 2001, I never went to a WCW show live, which is a regret.   Same with ECW although that wasn't as possible, so not so much of a regret.   Naturally I wish I'd gone to Summerslam 92, any attitude era WWE show and any other WWE shows from when I was a fan but not going to live shows, so anything from 1991-2001.  I also wish I'd gone to some British Wrestling shows in 90s  (I actually did go to one in about 1994, but other than being there, I have no memory of it).   I really want to see a Royal Rumble live one day, but thank shit I didn't decide to do that this year.

The men's Rumble must surely go down as one of the worst of all time.   I don't think it was "bad" like 2015, but it was just boring.   The women's match wasn't much better, but it was.   I would much have preferred Lashley's Mania challenger have been the Rumble winner and have Brock win the Elimination Chamber to challenge Reigns.   Who is Lashley gonna face at Mania anyway?   Reigns vs. Rollins was pretty good though as was Lesnar vs. Lashley.   Lynch vs. Doudrop was a bit boring, but the Edge/Phoenix vs. Maryse/Miz match was rubbish.

On 1/17/2022 at 12:42 PM, jazzygeofferz said:

 

Was it a Rumble or a battle royal where Omos was ringside and kept catching AJ Styles whenever he went over the top? 

Think that was last year's Rumble.

That first Raw in Manchester was wild.  The crowd was on fire for everything.

I was at a show once, Birmingham I think, where Rhyno got on the mic during his match and told the crowd to "shut the fuck up" which was unexpected.

I was just looking at some shows from 2013 I think where Sin Cara challenged for the world title on a tour of Mexico.   Yes, it was a tour of Mexico, but still....Sin Cara challenging for the world title is a bit "random".

This is off topic from the random house shows, but on topic to 80s wrestlers looking older than they were.   I just started watching some 1998 Raw and the Rock 'n' Roll Express come back and even though the commentary isn't as explicit about it as they were with Backlund in 1992, they were obviously presented as a couple of old fogies from the past, and Gibson was just 39 and Morton was 41.

That's probably it, but doesn't fit the "local jobber in his home town" story, which there's no evidence of happening...so it probably is Masters.

But, it's not exactly unusual, especially then, for someone who is in developmental to beat someone on the level of Hardcore Holly in a pre show dark match.

1 hour ago, air_raid said:

Yeah, a match that totally passed me by at the time but that I recently saw, Bret & Cena vs Del Rio & Ricardo. Of course, the finish was Sharpshooter on Ricardo.

Appropos to this thread, I’d known about the MSG shows but had no idea that Bret had tagged along on a few European dates in November 2010, usually tagging with the Hart Dynasty against three of Slater, Gabriel, Otunga and Husky Harris. If he’d come to Britain on that tour 100% I’d have gone. Interestingly his final house show match was in Istanbul tagged with Edge and Rey against Del Rio, Cody and Drew. Some footage is on YouTube, including the finish ;

 

Indeed same here, as I never saw him wrestle live, although I had seen him appear on shows before.   But if he had a match on a show in the UK on that European tour I might have gone, though he did appear as GM, and I think guest referee a match on a show I went to in 2010.

On the same subject, Ricky Steamboat having matches on a handful of house shows against Sheamus and Drew McIntyre in addition to more matches against Chris Jericho in 2009 after their PPV match is a bit of a "house show random".

1 hour ago, Loki said:

Wasn't Bret Hart's last match also on a WWE house show?  After his match with Vince at WM I think.  

He did house shows after the Mania match, but his last match was on Raw.

Sounds like Timothy Thatcher’s gone too.

They’ve got rid of Regal !

Different sites reporting different things because none of them actually know?   I don't believe you.   Never heard of such a thing happening on wrestling news sites.

3 hours ago, air_raid said:

I have zero recollection of Heat being presented over here as Superstars in its infancy. The beginnings of Sunday Night Heat where it was a proto-SmackDown with all the big stars and gigantic main events or pull-aparts with Rock, Austin, Taker and Kane involved aired in highlight form on the Saturday lunchtime show. For the first few weeks, anyway, until it devolved into another JTTS show except becoming a Free-For-All type hype show on the night of a PPV - Mankind vs Mabel before the 99 Rumble might be the last time something newsworthy happened on a Heat before a PPV. If Heat was repackaged as Superstars it’s likely to have been after the transition to C show. Those were all over the place over here anyway with Shotgun Challenge etc and one of them eventually becoming Metal. Nothing quite like those halcyon Sundays in 1995 of watching a bunch of squashes on Challenge then watching most of the exact same squashes followed by one competitive match on Action Zone. I don’t want to think about how many months it took me to realize I could live without watching Challenge.

We definitely got at least some of the matches from Heat in full right from the beginning on our version of Superstars.   Prior to Heat being a show, we used to get Shotgun at 11am and then we'd get Superstars immediately after it at 12pm with the same matches as Shotgun but with different commentary!   Why, who knows, but I still used to watch them both.   Then one week, suddenly we got different matches on Superstars and those were the matches from Heat.  It may not have been all the matches, but it was 100% from the beginning and it may have only lasted a couple of months, because I don't think it was like that all the way until we actually started getting Heat ourselves (Channel 4).   But it was from the beginning as I can remember the Kane/Mankind vs. Owen Hart/Rock match being shown.