Jerry Lawler.. go away

[RepoMan]

Personally its Michael Cole... FUCK OFF

Why?

[Ron Simmons]

It's clear they're building towards some sort of Wrestlemania match with Lawler, this whole push began at the beginning of Wrestlemania season. I'm not the biggest fan of Lawler, but he deserves a Wrestlemania match at least. I'd rather see him wrestling than Jimmy Snuka or Sgt Slaughter or even Roddy Piper. He's involved in a high profile way, but he's only getting one crack at Wrestlemania, he should make the most of it.

 

I can't see it being Miz vs Lawler though... Orton heel turn for Orton vs Lawler?

I hope so. It's a real shame he hasn't had the chance to wrestle at the show considering his length of service with the company. I'd get goosebumps to see his entrance on a Wrestlemania show, I really would. You know wrestling a match at the event would mean so much to him, it'd be great to actually see.

[TheBigBoot]

Is anyone else fed up with Jerry Lawler on Raw?

 

Nah. I actually think Lawler's one of the more interesting characters they've got right now. Certainly the most interesting babyface because in kayfabe terms he's a legend but he's a legend who has not only never won the WWE Title, but never really had a shot at it until recently so he's out there taking advantage of every opportunity he can because he knows any shot he gets will be his last.

 

As far as his matches getting better reactions than they 'should' goes surely that means he's doing his job right?

 

It has probably gone on a bit too long now, but the involvement of Lawler has given us some good moments, and it balances out the Cole/Miz love in some ways.

 

I don't think its reached that stage yet. In fact it still seems to be building. There have been plenty of feuds that seem to have gone on too long recently but I don't think this is one of them. Whether they can keep it interesting all the way up to WrestleMania is another matter but right now I think it's going just about right for the stage of the feud they are at.

 

Even if it was Stone Cold on commentary, they shouldn't have commentators going over the WWE Champion. It doesn't help that Lawler is like 60 and can't go anymore.

 

But surely that's the point - the people who are praising his work think he can still 'go'?

 

I realise that's probably sacrilegious to all the old Memphis diehards who remember him in his prime, but in the WWF, the sneaky, cheat-to-win comedy heel character that he carved out was fantastic. If he could go back to that persona, he'd be great, 60 years old or not.

 

Maybe. Memphis is great but I like both characters. Lawler really is one of the most versatile performers there's been.

 

Its obvious they're building for a Wrestlemania match for Lawler, something he's never had and I wouldn't mind seeing it. There was talk of putting the WWE title on him, even if for a week or two and I wouldn't be opposed to it. Its not like the belt means all that much these days, but it'd be a nice honor for him to have been WWE Champion and get his Mania match.

He's shown in his matches as of late he can still work a good match and bump fairly well. He's a good talker and he can outshine half the WWE roster at his advanced age.

 

There was? I wouldn't be opposed to seeing that. If Miz was the guy to win it back off him then I don't think it would harm him at all.

 

And people complained when Punk was booked as a shit champion, or Rey Mysterio. It happens. The fact The Miz is a heel and can come out and make excuses after excuses no matter what happens means he'll never lose any of his heat through any of this, even if he dropped the title to Lawler and won it back a week or two later.

 

I think the problem there was that Mysterio and Punk were babyfaces. I mean for all the criticism of them being booked as "weak champions" a lot of people saw what they were trying to do in terms of getting them over as 'underdogs' but they felt they went about it in a way that actually made them come across as complete losers who weren't up to the standard of their opponents. Its hard for fans to get behind a character like that especially when their opponents keep (rightly) pointing out the fact they are a 'paper champion' and/or they are overshadowed by their late tag team partner.

 

With a heel I don't think that's a bad thing for the reasons you mentioned. A heel can be totally outmatched by their opponent and then cheat to win. Honky Tonk Man's Intercontinental Title run was built on the fact that his opponents were better than him but he sometimes always found a way to come out with the gold and the fans hated him for it. I think they are going for the same thing with The Miz.

 

If I was booking I'd have Lawler challenging for the Miz for the title at 'Mania. But they've already had them wrestle too many times on RAW for that to be done now.

 

I'd love to see that. Shame I can't see it happening that way. I can however actually see Lawler/Miz happening after Lawler costs Miz the WWE Title to someone else, just not for the title.

 

If you don't like Jerry Lawler don't watch RAW go watch gay porn and knock one out into your sisters sock. If your going to watch Raw shut your fucking moaning.

 

Okay, that bit actually did make me laugh out loud.

[PunkStep]

Personally its Michael Cole... FUCK OFF

The same Michael Cole that has been one of the best things in WWE for the past several months now?

[Reznor]

Maybe. Memphis is great but I like both characters. Lawler really is one of the most versatile performers there's been.

Haha, yeah, it's not to say i didn't like what i saw of him from back in the 80s, not that i've saw a huge amount. He was good to watch, but i know a lot of folk consider him pretty much the best ever, and i never really got that feeling. I was actually watching quite a bit of his 'classic' stuff just a few weeks ago, including a couple of matches v Kerry Von Erich and the feud with Terry Funk, and it was all pretty cool. But he just cracked me up in that 93-96 persona, and he was clearly loving it too. It's a shame in some ways he wasn't more active in those days.

 

I dunno, maybe it was that ridiculous looking beard he had back in the day that put me off him a bit, he was like something out of one of these medieval costume dramas, he looked a right tit!

[TheBigBoot]

Maybe. Memphis is great but I like both characters. Lawler really is one of the most versatile performers there's been.

Haha, yeah, it's not to say i didn't like what i saw of him from back in the 80s, not that i've saw a huge amount. He was good to watch, but i know a lot of folk consider him pretty much the best ever, and i never really got that feeling.

 

Yeah, I'm one of them in that Lawler is one of my favourite wrestlers ever and I do think classic Memphis era Lawler was one of the best of all time. Tonnes of classic matches, promos, angles and feuds against all kinds of different opponents and one of the few guys I'd rate as one of the top five to ten babyfaces and heels of all time... But I really think his WWF character was great as well and that he was actually one of the best heels they had in the 90s. I always remember how well he carried that feud with Roddy Piper, despite the fact the guy he was feuding with wasn't there (apart from rambling sent-in videos), and the way he went from being hilarious to downright nasty in the same promos. I really think his WWF work is underrated in a lot of ways. Anyone who can make me interested in a match against the Putskis must be good at what he does so I can only conclude that that version of Lawler was a success (with me) as well.

 

I realise this isn't saying much but the best of Ultimate Warrior's 1996-1998 PPV matches was against Jerry Lawler at King of the Ring '96 and that was all down to that "sneaky, cheat-to-win comedy heel character" you talked about.

[Rampage]

I'm guessing with that anger, you're either Lawler's son or head of his official fan club ..

 

 

Not at all just fucked off with people complaining. They complain its always the same guys in main event. Its boring rubbish etc. WWE writers pull there finger out write compelling interesting tv and someone comes on and moans about Jerry Lawler. The guy is great he draws the crowd in has good basic matches and makes the Miz look good and this is still not good enough. Lets just put the strap on Triple H have him Cena and Orton main event triple threat Wrestlemania and disband Nexus. Then rampage can moan about how preditable and boring Raw has become.

 

Its interesting to find out what people think about it, that was just my opinion, i cant voice my opinion now without someone coming on and cursing calling me a moron? great.

 

I enjoy Raw, Nexus/Punk is great at the moment im gripped into the whole show, the point i was making is IN MY OPINION i dont like Jerry Lawler and was interested in knowing what everyone else thinks. No need to have a go...

[Happ Hazzard]

I think Lawler has to go down as the best over 60 wrestler of all time, following Nick Bockwinkel as the best over 50 wrestler of all time and Flair as the best over 40 wrestler of all time.

[1SinN6]

for me.. Jerry just had the match of the year with Miz.. that laddermatch was something out of this world... shame you can't see it.

[Whiskey_Jim]

what people are missing here is what makes a heel champion a draw. people want heels to lose so they pay to see them lose, thats the beauty of this situation with Lawler. People have seen Lawler beat Miz, people have seen Lawler get screwed out of winning the title. So when it comes to another title match, and I think it will, Miz will actually win and probably in a dirty manner and the fans in the arena will go mental.

 

Making Miz look weak is not even an issue, if he looks weak then more people are likely to pay to see him fight which ever face it is because they believe that Miz will lose and will get angry when he doesnt. The cycle then starts all over again.

 

Jerry Lawler has something that a lot of other wrestlers dont, a pure and full grasp of ring psychology. He doesnt have to do much for the crowd to get emotionally invested and then upset when he gets beat. At the moment he is really serving a good purpose in keeping the heat on Miz white hot.

[aaron]

Lawler's the best thing that could happen to The Miz. I'm sure not all of us have forgotten that The Miz can barely hold a match together yet he's got the top prize in the business.

 

Working the mundane bunch of people like Orton isn't going to help The Miz at this stage. Given the chance to work one of the best Americans of all-time can't be a bad thing.

 

Fuck sake, The Miz is shit anyway. He's half a promo at best. If they can draw some dimes with him against Lawler, they should go for it.

[Shit Poster]

I'm guessing with that anger, you're either Lawler's son or head of his official fan club ..

 

 

Not at all just fucked off with people complaining. They complain its always the same guys in main event. Its boring rubbish etc. WWE writers pull there finger out write compelling interesting tv and someone comes on and moans about Jerry Lawler. The guy is great he draws the crowd in has good basic matches and makes the Miz look good and this is still not good enough. Lets just put the strap on Triple H have him Cena and Orton main event triple threat Wrestlemania and disband Nexus. Then rampage can moan about how preditable and boring Raw has become.

 

Its interesting to find out what people think about it, that was just my opinion, i cant voice my opinion now without someone coming on and cursing calling me a moron? great.

 

I enjoy Raw, Nexus/Punk is great at the moment im gripped into the whole show, the point i was making is IN MY OPINION i dont like Jerry Lawler and was interested in knowing what everyone else thinks. No need to have a go...

 

 

So what is it exactly you dont like about him? You don't like the fact he is making The Miz a top star? You don't like him because he carried The Miz to the best match Miz had in the whole of 2010? Maybe its because he is amazing at drawing a crowd in and making them think maybe just maybe.

 

I have watched wrestling for the best part of 20 years and they even had me going in that TLC match thats how much he brought me into it. Just like they had me going in the first Shawn and taker match i really thought Jerry was going to win. Then be screwed out of the title following week etc etc .He adds a cutting dynamic to the title scene not just Wooden Orton doing his vacant look Promo's. He has made it interesting.

 

Do you like randy Orton?

 

Randy Orton the legend killer they built his gimmick around beating up guys over 50 and he is bad ass maybe there trying to do the same with Miz. I like Miz he is starting to prove he can go in the ring as well. He is probaly being helped loads by Lawler. But you just want Lawler to go away? I can understand from a commentary thing he is not as good but thats down to his face turn and pg13 its not a bad thing its not as bad as marsh mellow mouth Matthews and certainly no where near as Stryker

 

Also why would anyone want Cole to fuck off he has been great in the last year. The WWE having being using Cole and Lawler greatly. Cole helped Daniel Bryan out loads with his NXT commentary. He has also being a great smart arse annoying heel commentator or at least a tweener.

 

This is the best Raw or even WWE has been in years. They have multiply story lines going on and fresh title scene except for Orton but keeping one guy in there is not a bad thing. People just need to sit back look at 2010 and think that was a great year for Raw and stop moaning about this and that. If you want to see some real shit T.V go watch TNA.

[Carbomb]

crawlingwest - There's very little wrong with TNA right now. Truth be told, they're probably the only wrestling I watch at the moment - I'm finding what little WWE I see to be rather dull bar the odd flash point. And now that

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[Vito]

I'm rapidly falling out of love with TNA, WWE isn't much better but the CM Punk/Nexus angle is pretty interesting. Nothing ever feels important in wrestling anymore.

[ScotstounsOwn]

I never got why they didn't make a run with king 10 years ago? he was braw in the mid 90s, then he went full time commentator. dont get why hes getting more matches now when he couldve been a main eventer a while back. its been fun to see him wrestling recently, but hope it doesnt last too mucyh longer.