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[Bus Surfer]

I think Jones' contribution to those numbers has to be pretty significant. Plus this was his first real year in front of the public and for people to see him on PPV.. That's quite an achievement.

If he continues to do what he's being doing, his numbers will only get better. He's flashy, well spoken and great to watch which will mean people will want to see him. And when Bones/Rashad does go down, that's going to be massive.

[David]

Jones past three PPV bouts have drawn very similar numbers:

 

Jones Vs Jackson (520,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Rua (490,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Machida (480,000 Buys)

 

Now while some undercard support may have helped attract some more buys, you can't ignore the fact that the last 3 shows that Jones has headlined have drawn better that the UFC shows around them.

 

Jone's money fight next year of course is with Evans (so lets hope Davis doesn't fuck it up for them). If promoted correctly I could see this show doing about 750-850'000 buys.

 

Having a named opponet on the undercard does not always help the show. Look at Edgar/Maynard 3, which was supported by Sonnens come back fight and a FW title fight but only shifted 225,000 buys (less than the second fight which did 260,000 buys).

I'm thinking that Jackson & Shogun played a part in the first two, and the third card had Tito fighting on it as well. Don't get me wrong, Jones will most likely be a big name attraction in the years to come if he continues as he is, but to suggest he's that popular already is a tad ridiculous.

 

In fact, juding by the responses he's had at weigh-ins and during his entrances, the reaction has been lukewarm at best.

[METAL ON METAL]

Jones past three PPV bouts have drawn very similar numbers:

 

Jones Vs Jackson (520,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Rua (490,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Machida (480,000 Buys)

 

Now while some undercard support may have helped attract some more buys, you can't ignore the fact that the last 3 shows that Jones has headlined have drawn better that the UFC shows around them.

 

Jone's money fight next year of course is with Evans (so lets hope Davis doesn't fuck it up for them). If promoted correctly I could see this show doing about 750-850'000 buys.

 

Having a named opponet on the undercard does not always help the show. Look at Edgar/Maynard 3, which was supported by Sonnens come back fight and a FW title fight but only shifted 225,000 buys (less than the second fight which did 260,000 buys).

I'm thinking that Jackson & Shogun played a part in the first two, and the third card had Tito fighting on it as well. Don't get me wrong, Jones will most likely be a big name attraction in the years to come if he continues as he is, but to suggest he's that popular already is a tad ridiculous.

 

In fact, juding by the responses he's had at weigh-ins and during his entrances, the reaction has been lukewarm at best.

 

Yeah, my thoughts also.

 

Jones is gonna be a big name someday (not Lesnar or GSP big but still), but there ain't no doubt in my mind more people bought those shows for Rampage & Shogun than they did Jones.

[jimufctna24]

Jones past three PPV bouts have drawn very similar numbers:

 

Jones Vs Jackson (520,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Rua (490,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Machida (480,000 Buys)

 

Now while some undercard support may have helped attract some more buys, you can't ignore the fact that the last 3 shows that Jones has headlined have drawn better that the UFC shows around them.

 

Jone's money fight next year of course is with Evans (so lets hope Davis doesn't fuck it up for them). If promoted correctly I could see this show doing about 750-850'000 buys.

 

Having a named opponet on the undercard does not always help the show. Look at Edgar/Maynard 3, which was supported by Sonnens come back fight and a FW title fight but only shifted 225,000 buys (less than the second fight which did 260,000 buys).

I'm thinking that Jackson & Shogun played a part in the first two, and the third card had Tito fighting on it as well. Don't get me wrong, Jones will most likely be a big name attraction in the years to come if he continues as he is, but to suggest he's that popular already is a tad ridiculous.

 

In fact, juding by the responses he's had at weigh-ins and during his entrances, the reaction has been lukewarm at best.

 

Yeah, my thoughts also.

 

Jones is gonna be a big name someday (not Lesnar or GSP big but still), but there ain't no doubt in my mind more people bought those shows for Rampage & Shogun than they did Jones.

One thing is though, Rampage vs Hamill did not do nearly as well as Jones vs Rampage.

 

So Jones did add to that buyrate, it was not just Rampage. Same with Shogun vs Hendo not doing as well as Jones vs Shogun. I guess you could argue that title fights will draw more than non-title fights but still I think Jones did help.

[METAL ON METAL]

Jones past three PPV bouts have drawn very similar numbers:

 

Jones Vs Jackson (520,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Rua (490,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Machida (480,000 Buys)

 

Now while some undercard support may have helped attract some more buys, you can't ignore the fact that the last 3 shows that Jones has headlined have drawn better that the UFC shows around them.

 

Jone's money fight next year of course is with Evans (so lets hope Davis doesn't fuck it up for them). If promoted correctly I could see this show doing about 750-850'000 buys.

 

Having a named opponet on the undercard does not always help the show. Look at Edgar/Maynard 3, which was supported by Sonnens come back fight and a FW title fight but only shifted 225,000 buys (less than the second fight which did 260,000 buys).

I'm thinking that Jackson & Shogun played a part in the first two, and the third card had Tito fighting on it as well. Don't get me wrong, Jones will most likely be a big name attraction in the years to come if he continues as he is, but to suggest he's that popular already is a tad ridiculous.

 

In fact, juding by the responses he's had at weigh-ins and during his entrances, the reaction has been lukewarm at best.

 

Yeah, my thoughts also.

 

Jones is gonna be a big name someday (not Lesnar or GSP big but still), but there ain't no doubt in my mind more people bought those shows for Rampage & Shogun than they did Jones.

One thing is though, Rampage vs Hamill did not do nearly as well as Jones vs Rampage.

 

So Jones did add to that buyrate, it was not just Rampage. Same with Shogun vs Hendo not doing as well as Jones vs Shogun. I guess you could argue that title fights will draw more than non-title fights but still I think Jones did help.

 

I wasn't saying Jones isn't even some type of a draw already, I was mearly stating that he benefited greatly from the names of those he was fighting - and its fighting names like that which will eventually lead to him being a big draw, its the circle of life as far as making big names goes.

[jimufctna24]

Jones past three PPV bouts have drawn very similar numbers:

 

Jones Vs Jackson (520,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Rua (490,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Machida (480,000 Buys)

 

Now while some undercard support may have helped attract some more buys, you can't ignore the fact that the last 3 shows that Jones has headlined have drawn better that the UFC shows around them.

 

Jone's money fight next year of course is with Evans (so lets hope Davis doesn't fuck it up for them). If promoted correctly I could see this show doing about 750-850'000 buys.

 

Having a named opponet on the undercard does not always help the show. Look at Edgar/Maynard 3, which was supported by Sonnens come back fight and a FW title fight but only shifted 225,000 buys (less than the second fight which did 260,000 buys).

I'm thinking that Jackson & Shogun played a part in the first two, and the third card had Tito fighting on it as well. Don't get me wrong, Jones will most likely be a big name attraction in the years to come if he continues as he is, but to suggest he's that popular already is a tad ridiculous.

 

In fact, juding by the responses he's had at weigh-ins and during his entrances, the reaction has been lukewarm at best.

 

Yeah, my thoughts also.

 

Jones is gonna be a big name someday (not Lesnar or GSP big but still), but there ain't no doubt in my mind more people bought those shows for Rampage & Shogun than they did Jones.

One thing is though, Rampage vs Hamill did not do nearly as well as Jones vs Rampage.

 

So Jones did add to that buyrate, it was not just Rampage. Same with Shogun vs Hendo not doing as well as Jones vs Shogun. I guess you could argue that title fights will draw more than non-title fights but still I think Jones did help.

 

I wasn't saying Jones isn't even some type of a draw already, I was mearly stating that he benefited greatly from the names of those he was fighting - and its fighting names like that which will eventually lead to him being a big draw, its the circle of life as far as making big names goes.

Fair enough

 

I just disagree with what you said about fans buying the PPV more for Shogun and Rampage, I think it was 50/50 with Jones on who the fans were paying to see.

[wandshogun09]

DREAM New Year's Eve show is underway, been some good little fights so far

 

Decent stream here (if you refresh now and then it should be fine)

 

http://blroy.blogspot.com/

 

Barnett's pro wrestling match is up next

[Gladstones Bitch]

Was just coming in here to ask for a stream as I don't want to risk going on Justin.tv and getting last nights UFC results spoiled.

 

Cheers

[Mr Tibbs]

Jones past three PPV bouts have drawn very similar numbers:

 

Jones Vs Jackson (520,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Rua (490,000 Buys)

Jones Vs Machida (480,000 Buys)

 

Now while some undercard support may have helped attract some more buys, you can't ignore the fact that the last 3 shows that Jones has headlined have drawn better that the UFC shows around them.

 

Jone's money fight next year of course is with Evans (so lets hope Davis doesn't fuck it up for them). If promoted correctly I could see this show doing about 750-850'000 buys.

 

Having a named opponet on the undercard does not always help the show. Look at Edgar/Maynard 3, which was supported by Sonnens come back fight and a FW title fight but only shifted 225,000 buys (less than the second fight which did 260,000 buys).

 

I'm thinking that Jackson & Shogun played a part in the first two, and the third card had Tito fighting on it as well. Don't get me wrong, Jones will most likely be a big name attraction in the years to come if he continues as he is, but to suggest he's that popular already is a tad ridiculous.

 

In fact, juding by the responses he's had at weigh-ins and during his entrances, the reaction has been lukewarm at best.

 

 

Yeah, my thoughts also.

 

Jones is gonna be a big name someday (not Lesnar or GSP big but still), but there ain't no doubt in my mind more people bought those shows for Rampage & Shogun than they did Jones.

 

One thing is though, Rampage vs Hamill did not do nearly as well as Jones vs Rampage.

 

So Jones did add to that buyrate, it was not just Rampage. Same with Shogun vs Hendo not doing as well as Jones vs Shogun. I guess you could argue that title fights will draw more than non-title fights but still I think Jones did help.

 

 

I wasn't saying Jones isn't even some type of a draw already, I was mearly stating that he benefited greatly from the names of those he was fighting - and its fighting names like that which will eventually lead to him being a big draw, its the circle of life as far as making big names goes.

 

Th thing with Ortiz is that, he is actually not that big of a draw now. His re-match with Griffin only shifted 375,000 buys (and that was in a time when the market wasn't over saturated). You then could argue that Mir helped draw. But the fact is the last show he headlined drew 295,000 buys.

 

Like it has been stated above, his opponents do help, but I think Jones deserves more credit for drawing solid numbers in a period when it seems we have a YFC show every week and the market is oversaturated.

[ajmcstyles]

DREAM New Year's Eve show is underway, been some good little fights so far

 

Decent stream here (if you refresh now and then it should be fine)

 

http://blroy.blogspot.com/

 

Barnett's pro wrestling match is up next

This current "pro wrestling" bout sucks balls. Looks like maffews got some new footage

[Gladstones Bitch]

Argghh the picture has died on that stream for some reason, can still hear the commentary though. This Sakuraba match sounds good as wel

 

Any other streams kicking about

 

Nevermind heres one

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/100270/...oshi-ishii.html

[wandshogun09]

Yeah it looked like the original streamer dozed off at his computer screen. One minute I was watching Sakuraba next minute I was watching a stream of a the Windows XP screensaver

 

Thanks for the other link

[David]

Houston Alexander won't be having a good New Year it would seem;

 

Police ticketed popular MMA fighter Houston Alexander for child abuse after the 39-year-old became upset with his 16-year-old and made him box with him.

 

Police reports say officers were called to a home near 44th and Maple for a domestic disturbance. The older Alexander told them he was having trouble with his teen son, who was "having explicit sexual contact on Facebook with some unknown females." The 16-year-old reportedly lied and "made him very upset."

 

According to police reports, "Alexander then retrieved boxing gloves and told his son, 'If you are going to lie to me, then we are going to box.'" The two reportedly boxed in the basement. Officers describe the teen as having a "slight bloody nose and pain to his right side."

 

Alexander was cited for misdemeanor child abuse.

[Dirty Eddie]

Has anyone come across the DREAM New Year's Eve show online anywhere yet? No sign in my usual places.

 

Thanks.

[wandshogun09]

Nick and Nate Diaz training Judo with Ronda Rousey and Manny Gamburyan

 

Good idea I think. Judo will be a great way to strengthen their base which should help in the long run with takedown defence and also give some twists to their BJJ game.

 

I was half expecting Karo Parisyan to show up asking Nate "Do you know who I am?"