Van Dammer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Sending my Application Form in, in the morning.Superb. At least some workers are getting decent pay.Yeah, and the other workers are paying for it.What other workers?Who pays the inflated ticket prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Who pays the inflated ticket prices?So what's your solution then? Pay the rail workers less I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Who pays the inflated ticket prices?So what's your solution then? Pay the rail workers less I assume?Pay them fairly, it will have a negative impact on their jobs paying them miles more than everyone else doing far more difficult jobs.Its union power, need I remind everyone of Bob Crow blaming the rail companies for the obscene and inflation busting rise in rail fares.I particularly love this one:Bob Crow, general secretary of the RMT rail union, condemned the likely fare increase. ‘Commuters will be absolutely disgusted to be told that they will be facing a fare rise of eight per cent at a time when salaries are being frozenTube drivers havent seen a pay freeze throughout the entire financial meltdown. Edited October 3, 2011 by Van Dammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Who pays the inflated ticket prices?So what's your solution then? Pay the rail workers less I assume?Pay them fairly, it will have a negative impact on their jobs paying them miles more than everyone else doing far more difficult jobs.Maybe they are being paid fairly for the job they do? Have you ever considered that? They play a vital part in the running of the city every day, and as such deserve to be rewarded for that.In fact;Mike Brown, managing director of London Underground, said: "This fair and affordable multi-year pay deal is a good deal for London - providing a platform for stability over a crucial time for the Tube network."This deal enables our employees' salaries to keep pace with the cost of living whilst being realistic given the current economic situation and the pressure on Transport for London's finances."Just because the likes of the police & nurses are getting paid shit doesn't mean everyone should be prepared to accept it. Edited October 3, 2011 by David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Who pays the inflated ticket prices?So what's your solution then? Pay the rail workers less I assume?Pay them fairly, it will have a negative impact on their jobs paying them miles more than everyone else doing far more difficult jobs.Maybe they are being paid fairly for the job they do? Have you ever considered that? They play a vital part in the running of the city every day, and as such deserve to be rewarded for that.Just because the likes of the police & nurses are getting paid shit doesn't mean everyone should be prepared to accept it.Having salaries that are far and away higher than other professions is bad for an industry. It will turn customers away, tube passenger numbers are already decreasing and ticket prices will rise more, they are doing themselves out of jobs for the future through their current greed.Underground users need a strong and stubborn Boss, who needs to come out and say that he wont bow to Union power and accept tube strikes and needs the publics support, they will get it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Having salaries that are far and away higher than other professions is bad for an industry. It will turn customers away, tube passenger numbers are already decreasing and ticket prices will rise more, they are doing themselves out of jobs for the future through their current greed.Not according to the London Underground managing director it would appear. Perhaps the "other professions" should take a leaf out of the book of the RMT and shock everyone by demanding to get a decent wage for what they do as well?I mean, if a mid level banker is worth, what? Edited October 3, 2011 by David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Having salaries that are far and away higher than other professions is bad for an industry. It will turn customers away, tube passenger numbers are already decreasing and ticket prices will rise more, they are doing themselves out of jobs for the future through their current greed.Not according to the London Underground managing director it would appear. Perhaps the "other professions" should take a leaf out of the book of the RMT and shock everyone by demanding to get a decent wage for what they do as well?I mean, if a mid level banker is worth, what? Edited October 3, 2011 by Van Dammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted October 3, 2011 Moderators Share Posted October 3, 2011 Haha.. Where did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Haha.. Where did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Yeah and lets see inflation and house prices soar even more, great idea. You do realise that if everyone earned Edited October 3, 2011 by David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yeah and lets see inflation and house prices soar even more, great idea. You do realise that if everyone earned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Of course theres a gap in earnings and there always will be but it needs to be reletive.Relative to what though?All that happens with train drivers earning more is that fares go up and then these multi million pounds mid-level bankers you speak of end up with more of salary as its good leverage that it costs them even more to get into work, its a negative cycle.The top earners in the country will see their earnings rise regardless. It's happened consistently for the past 30 years, so I see no reason why it stops now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WU LYF 4 LYF Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) I'm amazed at all the complaints from people in this fucking country. We all have a great lifestyle; most of us have everything we need, most of what we want and live a life that it utterly lavish compared to at least 60-70% of the world. This is a golden age, and just because it's slightly less golden than a few years ago doesn't make it a grim, terrible time of poverty and depravation. It's just the generally fatalistic outlook of the majority of the population, always complaining about something. Politicians tell us we're living through some sort of great depression, when the economy is growing 1% (not in line with inflation but certainly not catastrophic) and most people all the material stuff they could ever want. Â I've spent the last week on a sunlounger listening to music, yet according to my meagre income I'm on the poverty line. Well, no, I'm not in a current position to drink Dom Peringon, or have a 50" HD TV, but my life is a million times easier than most of the world. Even in this country, if you saw the 'Poor Kids' TV program on the BBC a few months back you'll see kids who really have it hard, and here are these rail workers who actually have a job, and a fairly good job, complaining because they want more and more. Â The problem here is expectation and perception. People expect a big house and disposable income, and think they deserve it because the people who do live lavishly like celebrities, some bankers and politicians are all over the media. People perceive that their live is rubbish because there are a lot of people out there earning more than them and more materially well off, when actually if they look further afield they live a phenomenal and reasonably easy life. These people have it better now than they have at any point in pre-20th century history. Â People also should learn that money is far from the only currency in this world, and it certainly doesn't equal happiness. Without wanting to seem like a hopeless hippy romantic, having a good group of friends, accepting contentment with your life and being in good health and good mood are all far more valuable than the circular bits of metal and pieces of paper that we measure our happiness and fulfillment by. If we stopped reaching desperately for the brass ring and started realising it doesn't exist more people might get happiness out of life. People always perceive things in a tier or a hierachy, where they would do better to see things running parallel. Edited October 3, 2011 by RIP Diva Sunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Of course theres a gap in earnings and there always will be but it needs to be reletive.Relative to what though?Talent, ability, intelligence, experience, qualifications.A guy with no specialist qualifications driving an electric train for 4 days a week, whilst getting far more holiday than the national average, including bank holidays on top and reduced/free train travel earning Edited October 3, 2011 by Van Dammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yeah that really was a surprising post from June, well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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