andrew "the ref" coyne

Just saw this over at 1wrestling:

Dr. Phil Astin, Chris Benoit's personal doctor, faces what amounts to life in prison if found guilty of the seven counts he is currently indicted under. Each count carries a possible 20 year sentence and authorities are investigating the deaths of Johnny Grunge and Chris Benoit to determine if more charges may be forthcoming.

Looks like Astin is absolutely screwed.

Not good, he openly said the testing was a ruse (He made that one perfectly clear), and the roids are pretty much common in pro wrestling.

How the fuck would he know?On the subject of not watching WWE out of protest, surely that's completely pointless unless you have a barb box or whatever the hell they call them? I would suggest I more effective protect would be not to attend the live events. Even then, chances are, you'll be the one sat at home missing out, while someone else comes along and buys the seat you would have had.

I'm sorry, but depression of ANY level should not drive any person to murder. If you murder whilst depressed, you are a murderer nevertheless.

Congratulations on pointing out the obvious.

It's confirmed he did it. I feel sick. Honestly sick. Part of me wants to keep coming up with theories as to why he did it. Depression etc. I've had depression and know it can be very very hard, but never would I have considered killing anyone, let alone the ones I love. The ability to do it must've been inside him anyway.I had a lot of respect for the man, but it's slipping away. I'm not the sort to say 'Rot in hell' but I retract my earlier 'Rest in Peace'.Nancy and Daniel, RIP.

Good God you really are a fucktard.Like many illnesses their are different levels of severity. Depression is a mental illness and can drive you to do things that are really not normal for you.And who said he was depressed anyway?

As someone who actually works in acute and secure mental health services I wanna point out I have never ever come across someone who killed due to depression. You say depression can make you do things you wouldnt do usually... to yourself? yes... to others? I have never ever seen it.Mike

I didn't actually mean depression could drive someone to murder. I was merely pointing out the complete stupidity in rockbus post. I've seen depression and been around it. Suffered with it myself for a short while. Self harm is the only out of character effect I've seen/been through.

A man's family have died today in tragic circumstances, and people like you coming onto this thread to just wind up people honestly affected by it are starting to do my head in. A lot of people are honestly in shock/grieving and people like you coming on just to get people's backs up is starting to get annoying. Of the 80 odd pages in this thread, 20 of those are probably arguing, and I for one have had enough.If all you are going to do is insult people, don't bother. You wouldn't do it to their faces, but because you have the safety of a computer screen feel you can say what you like.It's time some respect was shown in this thread to those that have been affected, whether it's those involved, those close to them, or people who have followed the careers of those involved for maybe 20 years.I certainly hope others feel the same.

A man's family didn't die. A man killed his family then killed himself. BIG difference.And I'm not coming on here to wind people up. I've made 4 posts int this thread (including this one). One of them was pointing out the idiocy of your post. Just you, no one else. Get over it.I've read on a couple of sites that the texts that were sent by Benoit contained passages from the Bible and details of his will. Has this been confirmed?I imagine, considering their was no suicide note, that we will never find out why all this happened in the first place. That's got to be difficult all family members and close friends.Also, any word from Kevin Sullivan (he was married to Nancy once wasn't he??).

Bottom line is that all I have learn't from your post is that WWE have technically broken the law

Then so have the Police, whom said exactly the same thing.

No they haven't, stop making things up. WWE have posted it as fact, the police have reported it as "a belief", otherwise they'd have closed the fucking investigation by now.

Of course it's more than speculation -

At 10 p.m. Monday night, Lt. Pope held a press conference in conjunction with Scott Ballard, the district attorney for Fayette County. The press conference officially ruled authorities

Is it possible that wife and child were poisoned for whatever reason and Benoit commited suicide later?Seems a possible if unlikely scenario but does blow out all this 'clear cut, he did it' stuff.

Yeah, but the police aren't looking for outside parties.

wwe should NOT sell any Benoit memorial merchandise as he is supposed to be a murderer. My opinion-I respect the Wrestler CHris Benoit, but if he killed his family, i do not respect the person anylonger!

To all the people that are blatently denying the truth that Benoit killed his family and then himself, what will you say when all this is confirmed sometime today?

There are no words of course. I'm off work this week so as a treat I stayed up to watch the live raw. Some treat I nearly died myself when the first thing I saw was an empty arena with Vince telling us Chris had died. (Vince did the right thing admiting his death was a work.) I really don't understand how Chris and his wife and son are dead. How could all three die? Poison? Murder what? Anyway I can't say anything else, I have nothing I can say.

What did he say?

I remember as a kid watching Benoit and thinking "damn your a vicious bastard" and it made it real for me.

I remember the other week watching and thinking "damn you're a vicious bastard" and it made it real for me.

How did all three die all of a sudden? This is fucking terrible.

Watch the reaction of lots of yougn Japanese teenage girls as they watch the end of Ringu (Japanese version of the Ring) from some Japanese set up show. The twist at the end is nicely done.

Iamyourtruth should be banned for putting a private e-mail on a public forum.

Why? It's his email, he can do what he wants with it.

Ok So if your boss sends you a confidential e-mail about new developments in the company, you can do whatever you want with it because it is your e-mail? Cool for you. I think my boss would have fired me if I put in on a forum.So if your girlfriend sends you a sexy photo on e-mail, you can put it on the web because you can do whatever you want with it? Cool for you. I think my girlfriend would have left me if I posted it on a forum.

Yeah but the fact is the person sending it to you has given you that as an option unless the e-mail had a disclaimer at the bottom the guy had every right to post this on here. If it's ethicly right or wrong is down to each person to decide as stated with your examples above. If this all is true what difference does it make it is on a public forum besides giving 1PW a fair advance warning of it. If people send you an e-mail it might be in good faith that you won't go and tell everyone but with something like this it could be seen as making a moral judgement that it's for the greater good to post it on here and let people know. Sorry I blame doing ethics for a year.That being said I really don't think this is legit and maybe only part of the story at best.

Actually putting it on here is technically illegal.UK law is preatty specific that if something is intended for your personal eyes that it should not be disclosed to the public. To do so would contradict with confidentiality law. Yes he could of been more specific, and yes he probably shouldn't of gone on a 1pw tangent, but at the end of the day the email is written to those named in the email, and by forwarding it on without express permission is a technical "no no."

I could be way off here but to my understanding that the e-mail must have a disclaimer that states it's for the personal viewing of the person it's sent to. I don't work in wrestling but I do in music and have worked with some pretty big bands and all e-mails from labels, mangement etc have huge ass diclaimers attached to them. For exampleCONFIDENTIALITY AND PRIVILEGE NOTICEThis email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. Confidentiality and legal privilege attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender.ShellShock Promotions is not responsible for the compliance by contractors or artists of their respective obligations although we take all normal precautions. ShellShock Promotions is acting as agent and not as principal and as such accepts no liabilities for any acts, failures, errors and omissions on part of the principal. Nothing in this email constitutes acceptance of an offer unless specifically stated.(Don't worry that's my promo company so I can legally stick that up here )

Iamyourtruth should be banned for putting a private e-mail on a public forum.

Why? It's his email, he can do what he wants with it.

Ok So if your boss sends you a confidential e-mail about new developments in the company, you can do whatever you want with it because it is your e-mail? Cool for you. I think my boss would have fired me if I put in on a forum.So if your girlfriend sends you a sexy photo on e-mail, you can put it on the web because you can do whatever you want with it? Cool for you. I think my girlfriend would have left me if I posted it on a forum.

Yeah but the fact is the person sending it to you has given you that as an option unless the e-mail had a disclaimer at the bottom the guy had every right to post this on here. If it's ethicly right or wrong is down to each person to decide as stated with your examples above. If this all is true what difference does it make it is on a public forum besides giving 1PW a fair advance warning of it. If people send you an e-mail it might be in good faith that you won't go and tell everyone but with something like this it could be seen as making a moral judgement that it's for the greater good to post it on here and let people know. Sorry I blame doing ethics for a year.That being said I really don't think this is legit and maybe only part of the story at best.

The minute I read the guys name as "Iamyourtruth" and the first few lines of the post, the thought "tabloid esque" came to mind.Also reading this didn't shock me... trust me, people have been trying to attempt similar projects before. Good luck to the guy, though I suggest he avoids writing his negative personal opinion on any particular fed since this is unprofessional to say the least.Please note mr. "iamyourtruth" that only the sender has stated any dislike for 1PW. The other promotors are merely innocent bystanders (as far as this letter is concerned anyway).