Undefeated Steak

Who'd have thought it eh? Russo's rumbled and TNA is cancelled. Jim Cornette obviously runs Spike TV.

Anyone else want to say this?

They're wank, good fucking riddance.

It took me about 6 posts to try and say it politely. Cheers, running poo.

At least this forum can handle a rebrand

At least this forum can handle a rebrand

At least this forum can handle a rebrand

(I did that on purpose, and from my phone)

Any chance Rhino gets the belt on their final PPV?

It's a matter of time before he throws the TNA belt into a bin on a ROH show. Wrestling can't move forward without taking two steps back.

Yeah, reading back I see I've come across as saying 'TNA will be a success without Spike' which isn't what I was trying to get at.

I really wish I was at my computer so again you'll have to excuse the brief post. I don't think TV has to be the be all and end all now. An 8 million dollar revenue stream from TV for a live event production company like that isn't all that great. What it costs to produce one episode will be massive. TV advertising is paying less now than it has in years and it's even worse for wrestling companies, as has already been mentioned in this thread. If television was such a necessity for them now WWE wouldn't have gambled so much on attempting to get into the online broadcasting game.

I may be well of the mark here so I can see where Ian and King Pitcos are coming from, but I really don't think losing a TV deal with Spike has to be the final bullet for them. While I'm here il also say that I think TNA as a company has been a joke for the past few years and, aside from keeping some talented wrestlers in employment, have been good for nothing.

It's a shame JR's is so hard to listen to. He really isn't cut out for the podcast game at this stage in his career/life. Jericho is even worse, he's like listening to an uncool Bart Simpson on Red Bull and almost ruined the episode with Heyman and Edge on (which takes some doing). Going back to JR's (because it's easier to keep typing than move my cursor on this phone), with him being so knowledgable and having spent so much time behind the scenes in the business, his podcasts could have been golden.

Austin's podcasts are usually one of the best things about wrestling outside Mania season.

Pitcos - It's times like this when I wish Russo would email TNA's bank statements to the wrong person. It wouldn't surprise me if they make no money directly from their Spike TV deal, once production costs and extra staff and everything else is taken into account. They've tried getting into the international television markets for years now. TNA are a notoriously short sighted company and I can't imagine them doing that if their domestic TV deals were sound enough in the first place.

Edit - I'm writing this on my phone so haven't explained it quite as well as I would have liked. I hope you get my point.

Ironically, TNA would probably be financially better off without the TV deal anyway. The costs of doing those tapings and all the logistics that go into putting them together must run into the millions each month.

I'm not saying this would make them money, but being a glorified All-Star fed running house shows in America with Angle and Jeff Hardy on the posters wouldn't see them losing so much money as they do now.

The sole focus of a pro wrestling company seems to be that they HAVE to have a television deal. Somebody needs to do a high-quality promotion where all the content and programming is broadcast online (pretty much what the Network's now doing but have all content done online through various YouTube channels etc.) The costs would be minimal and you could use every last viral marketing technique in the book to spread your name.

 

I'm not sure whether this is the right place to put ask this but I'd be grateful of any help here.

I've given wrestling training a shot before but I can't justify the high risk of injury (couldn't afford the time off work etc. etc.) but I really do want to have a proper a go at "getting into da biz" on some level, preferably as a manager (I think I could make a mean manager, come to think of it!)

My question is - how would I go about becoming a manager? Am I best contacting promoters and sending them a couple of YouTube links or something of me cutting some imaginary promos into a hairbrush?

 

 

Best bet is to contact training schools. They might still want you to learn the basics (such as a bump in case you need to be “physically” involved in a match/angle, but may be able to help you with (or point you in the direction of) manager-specific training.

Thanks. I did train for a few months so I got the basics down. I think the best thing though is to see what the local training schools suggest.

I'm not sure whether this is the right place to put ask this but I'd be grateful of any help here.

I've given wrestling training a shot before but I can't justify the high risk of injury (couldn't afford the time off work etc. etc.) but I really do want to have a proper a go at "getting into da biz" on some level, preferably as a manager (I think I could make a mean manager, come to think of it!)

My question is - how would I go about becoming a manager? Am I best contacting promoters and sending them a couple of YouTube links or something of me cutting some imaginary promos into a hairbrush?

At least they can promise a new station a guaranteed 1.1 million viewers each week.

I can see the Carters pulling the plug on it now. They probably saw the Spike deal as their one last shot at trying to turn business around.

Once WWE establish their network overseas and thus won't rely on PPV buy rates as such, I wonder if we'll begin to see them hosting PPVs/supercard events abroad? A London Wrestlemania could seem plausible on the basis that everyone who's on the Network will watch it regardless.

There are two things I can see TNA doing going by their track record here...

The first, they try and introduce Vince Russo as an on air babyface character.

The second, they have a heel stable form to announce that TNA are starting an online subscription network.

 

 

You can. They brought back Vince Russo and Tommy Dreamer. Nothing says "step back" that those pair of jokers.

 

 running Bound For Glory in Japan

 

I still don't really get this decision. How about they try and do something, anything, about their shitty domestic business before they start running "their WrestleMania" in Japan.

 

Haven't they always done much better abroad than domestically, though*? I know where you're coming from and the first thing I would do would be to try and remedy the problems on their doorstep but I can see that there is some logic amongst their usual madness here.

*I read this a while ago. Things have probably deteriorated since then though.

On the subject of that, it always amuses me when people think programmes like Storage Hunters and Top Gear are legitimate but won't watch wrestling because it's fake.

The quality of figures has improved massively since I last saw any. That top picture of the Hogan figure is incredible. I might have to get me some.

A short teaser for the upcoming Heyman documentary.

Cannot wait.

Unless the picture was taken with Lashley standing in front of a large fridge door then I can't see how they've had the skills to cut around him so well and yet do such a terrible job with the other graphics. It has to be some kind of joke. Somewhere in America there's a graphic designer thanking their lucky stars that GFW and TNA exist.

WWE should do a World Cup themed knockout tournament this summer with a wrestler representing each country in the WC. That'll appeal to the international markets. Obviously they'd have to Kayfabe some of the wrestlers' nationalities but WWE are no strangers to that. Black wrestlers are from anywhere hot/developing nation. European countries are all one and the same to them. Etc..

I may be way out with this idea as I haven't been watching recently but how about having Reigns swerve everybody and join Evolution? That'll put heat on him over the summer and he can turn on them in time for Wrestlemania. There's no point in hot shotting the angle for it to end at a B-level PPV. Have something happen at the Rumble and then do Reigns - HHH at Mania.

I'd love to be able to come along to the PCW shows, they sound great, but I just can't justify taking the time off. If only they could run shows on a Tuesday morning. Maybe I'll come along to one and ask air_raid about his VK's. Talk about dreams coming true.

X-Pac has to be the least fashionable wrestler ever. He's never not looked like a weird pirate attending a Night Ranger gig.

It's a close tie between him and Matt Hardy.

If a wrestler was to get upset over a 'You fat bastard' chant then they should have no place being in the ring. You get guys like Triple H who put on matches after suffering severe burns when their pyro malfunctions and others who continue to perform when all their friends and family around them are watching them pop painkillers just to get out of bed, and you expect other wrestlers to be offended by a schoolboy chant and make a success of it. Not a chance.

 

Totally missed the point, I wasn't even close to suggesting Cyanide might have been upset. Rather that it was really daft how a bunch of lads decide to start on someone who wasn't even in the ring at the time, when there was a match going on that they could have directed much more appropriate chants towards. Misplaced/offensive/rubbish chants, see?

Either way, isn't it down to the wrestlers themselves to be entertaining the fans enough that there isn't constant outbreaks of chants like that? If they're drawing the right response from the crowd then you shouldn't notice a handful of fans trying to get theirselves over.