Richard

and surely if Punk had been secured by AEW on the sly, he wouldn't be trying out for the Fox WWE backstage show?. WWE aren't thick, if they knew they were getting played they would have vetoed it before it leaked out online.

or they're inserting Braun into the match as their get out of jail card so they can have Seth retain. Which is exactly what they're going to do. 

Cesaro. Especially in those tiny pants and trainers he was wearing on Raw last week.

and just about anyone else with Cesaro's physiognomy. 

My Mrs. doesn't have to know. 

Still no-one has attempted to spar with my original points.

I know it's threatening. It's okay.  @Gay as FOOK no-one asked for your life story. 

I'll be waiting. 

Just now, BomberPat said:

Maybe that you haven't actually backed up any points beyond "they're different", or that "high culture" Vs "low culture" is just classist snobbery?

Not an argument.

34 minutes ago, LaGoosh said:

Fucking hell.

what's the problem?

Happens a lot on here. No-one can form a coherent argument against mine so they try and pick apart tidbits.

55 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

😂😂😂

awww. Second time you have had nothing to say to me on here. Why are you a mod? Sad.

1 minute ago, Devon Malcolm said:

You're my favorite poster for a reason. 

1 minute ago, thevestofdeanambrose said:

Talking absolute bollocks and trying to sound smart and then spelling eastenders wrong is the kind of shit I live for

I have a degree in sociology but appreciate the tip.

Hi @Devon Malcolm do you have anything to say babe?

30 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

Same goes for being a fan of any other entertainment. Nothing you're not actively participating in should be the defining part of your identity otherwise you're a spectator in your own life. That goes for people who follow bands around on tour, full kit wankers, obsessive wrestling fans, etc. It's all the same.

But you can still enjoy all of those things reasonably and with some perspective.

Well that's a sociological topic, then. 

If you can't differentiate between high culture and pro-wrestling, then I don't know what to tell you.

Entertainment isn't arbitrary, and boiling entertainment down to hollow ''subjectivity'' sheds away the cultural and societal norms.

Pro-Wrestling leans into societal anomalies. Equating Football on a Saturday to pro-wrestling isn't fair, and it's disingenuous to think so.

I'm not fully sold on the idea that liberalism has no standards, and what is acceptance will progressively become the norm.

Watching Eastenders and watching Monday Night Raw aren't the same.

3 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

Or it can be an escapism from all that. Which is generally is to millions of people.

I agree with you to an extent, but I wouldn't plan my entire life around it. My own personal voyage has gravitated towards creating a family. I'm not prodding anyone that has been depressed and has found solace in their youth, that's fine. But I wouldn't measure my existence on what New Jack thought of Paul Heyman in 1999. Pro-Wrestling shouldn't be an extension of your existence past a certain age. 

16 hours ago, AVM said:

Despite the opportunity for the opposition to take advantage from any fallout of no deal, I'm still firmly of the belief that we must avoid or at least mitigate the impact of Brexit. There's really no point in being in politics if you don't believe in the betterment of society (regardless of perspective). The angle of 'let Boris wreck everything and we'll take advantage' is pointless for me. That's quite literally minimizing politics to a game - trouble is, we're playing with peoples lives.

I'm not one of those people that believes that domestic policy can reverse the impact of Brexit either. We live in a globalised world where the real megapowers are corporations whose influence transcends borders. Splitting from political unions with other countries is the total reverse of what we should be doing. It's really a macro version of labour unions - countries with high levels of unionisation and collective bargaining generally have better, more equal living standards than those that don't. We need to stand together to improve things. 

Unions worked in the 70s. Now it's vehemently anti-worker. The populace has redirected their concerns from wages to class warfare. The union culture has changed. If Brexiters thought they had a voice in unions we would still be in the EU.

What you're talking about is solidarity among a division of a divided populace. Which will ultimately lead those on the left and right to a collusion course never before seen in this country. The country is rotting, and has been for 50 years. I don't see a political solution. I was under the impression Brexiters were still on board with the liberal democracy project, now, not so much. 

The idea that various interest groups can resolve their problems in a liberal democracy have proved to be fallacious. Democracies work in homogeneous societies, this was worked out thousands of years ago in ancient Greece.

Not to doomsday too much, but there is going to be an explosion in this country this century. Too many interest groups involved for it not to. Those in the commons have no idea. 

In any event Brexit isn't going to happen. 

edit: I'm sure I'll get some pushback from BomberPat for this, but whatever. I've heard his arguments, and they're all flip-floppy. No mental gymnastics is going to change the fact that Brexit SHOULD happen, and if it doesn't. Well, strap me to a DeLorean and transport me back to monarchical Britain, because if Brexit isn't delivered we're going to see civil war.

Dancing is socially acceptable. Strictly is shit, but pro-wrestling is worse.

Dancing is quite clearly a respected art form that stretches back centuries and is a pillar of not only western civilization but the entire world. It transcends language. 

Pro-wrestling is gutter entertainment to be honest. It's embarrassing.

Anyone that extracts any kind of emotional attachment to wrestling after a certain age hasn't lived. If you've gone through addictions, broken relationships, lost loved ones and been laid off work, you can take pro-wrestling or leave it. 

On 9/8/2019 at 5:49 PM, TildeGuy~! said:

Which podcast? I’d love to give it a listen. 

If it’s yours, I’ll pass

LOL

8 hours ago, David said:

He knows his audience, and he knows exactly what he has to do in order to have them part with their hard-earned dough to finance his lifestyle. You'd feel sorry for the poor buggers being misled, but then you remember exactly what it is they're buying and you realise they deserve it.

Those misled are waking up to his racket. 

Those financing him aren't those ''Britain-First' types marching with him on the streets. US Tech billionaires and US based thinktanks have funded his legal fees and lined his pockets over the years. Rebel Media continues to employ him (owned by Ezra Lavent) and funds his lifestyle and stirs up anti-islam sentiments. 

I hope he packs it up and leaves for Spain after this latest bid. He's the biggest fraud on the right. 

Steve? Edgy!

all is forgiven

1 minute ago, Factotum said:

What a non answer. 'read a book' is also a shit response. Read what book? Lucky Jim? Neoliberals For Dummies? Chris Moyles autobiography?

Also 'neoliberal' is now a term thrown around mainly by people who don't know what it means but 'read a book'

I have a handful of books I can recommend, it's not my fault he made a twat out of himself and didn't know what the word meant. 

Just now, BomberPat said:

Enlighten me. How does a democracy work?

I know how ''democracy'' has worked since the referendum, and that is that the entire system has worked to promote the most chaotic atmosphere possible in order to undermine and undercut 17 million people. This was all planned from the beginning, it's the UK's own version of the Muller investigation, in that it's completely exhausted people to the point where no-one want's to deal with it anymore. And judging from the polls, the British people would vote to stay in the EU given a second Brexit. And that is exactly how ''democracy'' manifests. When the public vote the incorrect way, they are punished entirely by the system, and are trained in the most Pavlovian of ways to never make that mistake again. That is democracy. And that's why even if Boris can pull off some kind of Brexit, it will be very much submerged in the same neoliberal goo that it always has been, and all the concerns Brexiters had will be ignored never to be heard of again.

Just now, Chest Rockwell said:

How is it that they're both liberal and plutocratic? 

Don't answer that actually. I have zero interest in what you have to say. 

Look up what ''neoliberal'' means, and then maybe read a book. 

Did you just assume my political allegiance? The plutocratic neo-lib conservative party? you must have me confused with another dick. 

The same party you're having a meltdown over on the UKFF is the same party that have gone on record on wanting to grant amnesty to 500 thousand illegal immigrants and want to scrap any kind of cap on immigration at all. The entire Tory party are fully committed to the EU's principles.

I still don't see Brexit happening at all, because it doesn't make sense that they would send May out there all that time to filibuster if they were just going to give up and let Boris do the whole thing.

We shall see.

Anyway, enjoy your likes chief.

8 minutes ago, Wideload90 said:

I fucking hate where this country is headed and the Tory cunts are causing so much damage. The sad thing is that other political parties have been doing very little until now to try derail this. 

I find it hard because people are throwing out "undemocratic" on both sides and I find it hard to see how people voted for this shit show and aren't given the opportunity to change their mind. If I'm given the choice to vote for chocolate ice cream and I'm given strawberry and told it's what I voted for I'd be entitled to change my mind.

Fuck the right wing cunts and that bumbling cunt who is fucking up a country like his two predecessor cunts to fulfil their self serving destructive policies. Fuck them.

That's not how a democracy works. Stop crying. 

I won't be there. 

I mean, NXT UK has really morphed into NXT Europe with Imperium and Dragunov being the focal points of the shows, so Cesaro would fit that mold. Anyway wouldn't the more obvious match be Devlin vs. Cesaro rather than Dunne? I know Devlin hasn't got a match and has at least acknowledged that he isn't on the card on television. I read Dunne was exclusively on NXT for the foreseeable future.

Bate/WALTER has been built up well, but yeah the card looks a bit uninspired. Decent precursor to All Out mind. 

18 hours ago, Accident Prone said:

Also, spill the beans on the trainee!

Dave Rayne. Pretty sure he quietly retired not long ago.