Jonny Vegas

Selling and logic in WWE is completely dead then. Rollins goes into the match with taped up ribs, has them worked on for the entire match, is at points in the match literally begging Lesnar not to do further moves impacting his ribs then decides of his own choosing to do a frog splash to the outside through an announce table shortly followed by another in the ring with no selling or detriment to Rollins.

Absolutely shite. He has the cheek to call himself the best as well.

10 hours ago, Lord-Mountevans said:

Giant Machine – Andrè The Giant
Big Machine – Blackjack Mulligan
Super Machine – Bill Eadie (Demolition Ax)
Hulk Machine – Hulk Hogan
Piper Machine – Roddy Piper
Animal Machine – George Steele

Sounds like a lineup for Never Mind The Buzzcocks.

1 hour ago, TildeGuy~! said:

Fair point 

But you’ve just named 8 AEW roster members who are stars.

Impact have 0

I feel it's not just stars you need though you need solid talent from top to bottom and I feel AEW are very thin on the ground at the moment for a company who are going to have 2 hours of TV a week to fill and also have utter shite like Jimmy Havoc on display. Add Brian Cage, Johnny Nitro/Mundo/Impact, Cody Deaner, Michael Elgin, Killer Cross, Madman Fulton, Rich Swann, The Rascalz, Taya, Rosemary, Jordynne Grace, Tessa Blanchard & Scarlett Bordeaux. The majority of those guys also have little to no "TNA stink" and are wasted being on a weekly show practically nobody sees. I'm not a big fan of oVe as a whole but they're an instant faction ready to feud with The Elite if needed also.

I genuinely think that the roster of Impact other than Cody, Jericho, Young Bucks, Lucha Bros, Omega and Moxley is far better than the roster of AEW.

AEW should be hoovering up a lot of the Impact guys and be giving jobs to D'Amore and Callis.

58 minutes ago, TheToeSucker said:

Dolph is 10 years younger than Bill.

Ziggler isn't 42.

4 hours ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

Seth might as well come out to nWo b-team music next week. Or the X-Pac theme. "BURN IT DOWN! SETH PAC! You think you can tell us what to do ..." What a big fanny.

I'm 100% stealing Seth Pac as his new name, thanks.

Personally found it hilarious how they had DX and 2/3 of nWo in the ring with Rollins in an attempt to give him the rub and he still looked like a massive out of place dong.

I honestly cannot see why on earth they had Seth win the battle royal and in such a shite way. Surely there cant be anyone interested in seeing Brock vs Seth again. It's got to the point where I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in the universal title because I have zero interest in Brock keeping the title when he's barely ever there and even less interest in Seth having it again. 

The womens 4 way was dreadful in my opinion as well and there's arguably not a less interesting challenger in the company than Natalya. 

Wrestlers wearing street gear for promo's including one's that lead to an impromptu match. It's so stupid to me when they have them come to the ring for segments or interviews etc in full ring gear then make them act surprised when they're put into a match.

Also wrestler's not walking around/coming out constantly wearing their own T shirts at all times.

Maybe a coincidence or maybe something else... but my son has just turned 2 and he likes to use the baby monitor as a pretend phone and sporadically picks it up and pretend talks to people on it.

This morning he picked up the monitor and said "Hi uncle Anton, you coming to see me? Ok see you soon byeeee".

Anton is my wife's cousin however they're like a brother & sister. He has been working in Germany for the last year so. He's only been back once around Christmas and we don't ever speak to him on the phone only Whatsapp or Facebook messenger and my son never mentions him.

This afternoon we got a call from him to say that a tumour he had removed from his ear as a kid has came back and he's been signed off from work until ge gets an operation here to remove it and can go back to work.

He's on his way back to Glasgow having started driving from Germany this morning. He didn't find out until yesterday and didn't tell anyone before my son said that.

A few years back whilst driving back to Glasgow from visiting family in Coventry I stopped off at Lancaster services. I parked the car and went in for maybe 5 minutes with the wife and as we were getting back into the car someone I worked with at the time parked in the space next to me. Maybe not that thrilling but we didn't know what car each other drove I only noticed as they were getting out. I felt the odds on being at a random service station on a random day at the same time in spaces next to each other was pretty long. Nobody has ever seemed remotely the same about it.

Also I previously worked for O2 at the Skypark in Glasgow over 10 years ago. When I left for my current job the fellow who came into my old team was a lad called Jamie who started the day after I left. We never met and didnt know each other. Fast forward 2 years and I moved into a new role at my new job and the following day my old role was filled by a brand new start, the same guy who didn't even know I worked for the same organisation. We later became aware of the coincidences when we crossed paths at work.

I am a little reluctant to say this but I do think it's accurate. Becky's breakthrough moment was a total fluke. Her getting her nose busted open and standing there with her face a mess looking a total badass wasn't planned or scripted it just happened and made her look a million dollars.

Pretty much ever since then she's madr a colossal arse of trying to live up to that moment.

Making constant attempts being an uncharismatic female Conor McGregor, being hindered by poor booking choices making her look weaker than she needs to and now by being stuck with big bland Seth.

Also it doesn't help when you're trying to come off as a super cool badass but your two main insults that you regularly repeat are to call people planks and dummies.

I like Becky I really do but the facts are she she was thrust into the position shes in by happenstance and hasnt really done anything at all of note to cement that position in what feels like close to a year.

5 hours ago, rollthedice said:

So much so that at the end of Stomping Grounds I was questioning if they're relationship is a complete work.

The "ahh pffft ah" bit from Becky on Raw was embarrassing. They dont look natural together at all.

I'm waiting for Seth to take Beckys surname...

I'm glad to see it isn't just me with the Becky/Seth stuff.

The two of them come across awful nearly all the time for me. I feel like they're being pushed as really cool, badass top faces but they seem like they couldn't be further than that on every aspect.

Edited to add more on the subject - I feel like their characters are more akin to the stereotypical high school jock typecast where they go around acting like they're super tough but are actually severely delyded. They make corny and completely unfunny jokes and one liners that they then give aggressive stares towards their hangers on to laugh along to but deep down even those people feel they're cringeworthy.

A couple of weeks back you had Seth running around repeatedly smashing people with a chair if they dared to agree to be a special guest referee. He wasn't doing it to people he caught agreeing to screw him for a big payday or a future title shot. He was just doing it to make absolutely anyone afraid of accepting the role.

It was the most insecure, weak, paranoid behaviour imagineable and this is supposedly their badass top face champion.

Add that to his constant cringeworthy "ooh please love me I think I'm brilliant" tweets and it really is a colossal clusterfuck.

If all this is however a cunning plan to make me wish Reigns was champion instead it's a fucking masterstroke.

On 6/27/2019 at 10:34 AM, Accident Prone said:

That is such utter, utter dross. You come off sounding like Alan Partridge, and not in a good way. Blaming Colt for any of this is proper shit, and I'm not even a big Colt fan. Punk used Colt's very big platform because he was a trusted mate and, at the time, it was arguably the world's most popular wrestling podcast. Colt had a guest, the guest spouted off, the guest should shoulder all the heat. The host of the show shouldn't even come into this mess.

I can absolutely see why Colt would be pissed, especially if Punk said that he'd cover all the costs only to bill the poor fucker at the end of a lawsuit that he should've had no business being involved with anyway. Get to fuck.

I don't think you're even the real Johnny Vegas either.

It's Colt's show. It's his responsibility. For him to seek assurances that Punk would cover legal costs if things went wrong he knew the potential for it to do so. Cabana made the decision to put the show up, was warned by WWE to take it down or they would sue, didn't and then they did. CM Punk is a wanker undoubtedly but how anyone can think Cabana wad beyond any responsibility is astonishing.

You're telling me that Colt Cabana was the biggest platform CM Punk had to get his story out there at the time as well? Unreal. 

3 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

He’s a prick isn’t he? I mean, I’m no Colt fan but he had proof CM Punk would help him if anything happened and then he lost he said How Much? Fuck That!

See I think they're largely as bad as each other. Punk could have went and done that interview or podcast anywhere he wanted and probably would have had several places offering him money to go and do it whether via a shoot interview or whatever. More professional outlets would I imagine have legal measures in place protecting them from law suits by  big companies suing them for defamation or libel or whatever. I can imagine Colt didnt far off beg Punk to tell the story on his pod. He has made a career largely off of being Punk's mate and using his connections to ride his coat tails. He's a cautious guy by nature and openly admits that regularly but on this occasion I feel he was blinded by the publicity and attention having Punk talk shit about WWE on his podcast was going to bring to his product so took the risk on the loose verbal promise that I believe was Punk saying "I'll take care of it".

To me it's important to remember that it's Cabana's podcast, guests are his guests, he had sole control over where, when and for how long it was distributed. He was happy to leave it up when the legal threats to take it down came and wasn't concerned how much it may cost Punk because as he see's it Punk is rich so could afford it. 

Cabana in my opinion needs to accept responsibility for his own actions and not just do something he knew was highly risky then hide behind his friends money when it all started to go wrong.

Mental how Seth thinks he's a reincarnation of Bret Hart yet the biggest impact he's had in the wrestling business is a twitter spat with some flip merchant.

Let's make Seth Rollins Universal Champion.

For those neither resident nor familiar with Scotland may I strongly reccomend an ice cold glass bottle of Irn Bru with a chippy up here. It's the only option.

4 hours ago, tiger_rick said:

I used to despise Diet Coke. After a year of it, I can't understand why anyone would drink full sugar soft drinks. They're evil.

I always figure that sugar may be bad for me...but I know what it does and I know what it will do to me. So do all the Doctors after hundreds of years of humans consuming it for them to research. Nobody really knows for sure yet what aspartame will do to me though.

To me this seems a really odd deal for all parties involved.

SKY - to my knowledge are losing subscribers hand over fist. Over the last few years they have lost Champions League, Europa League, La Liga and have shared rights on most domestic football in the UK. They're struggling fot content on their sports channels so badly that they've been showing e-sports and stuff like minor pool tournaments. Add this with the ever increasing price raises, streaming services such as Netflix providing largely far better value, the rise in popularity and ease of availability of piracy and things such as IPTV and people are going to be finding it increasingly harder to justify keeping subscriptions going. Regardless of product quality WWE provide well produced content in good quantity with far less of a niche audience than the Irish GAA sports or 9 ball pool tournaments with largely poorly produced and presented shows.

BT - they've shown already that many people would rather just not watch their content rather than pay another seperate subsciption for it. I know lots of people with SKY but the vast majority of people I know who have BT Sport have it because they get it free through their BT/Virgin package. The WWE product is arguably at the worst its been since 94-96 meaning casual fans who dont already have BT Sport are probably very unlikely to take out a subscription just to continue watching RAW and Smackdown. Added to that Id imagine many bigger fans like myself who dont already have BT Sport are also unlikely to take out subscriptions to watch 2 shows where largely nothing of any interest that I can't see clips of on twitter the next day ever happens, let alone when I can just watch much better stuff and all the PPV's as they happen on the Network for much less.

WWE - surely moving to a platform with what I'd imagine had significantly less viewers in the UK was bad business particularly for a company with a fledgling UK specific show which already isn't doing great for itself. They have tonnes of money, the amount in difference between SKY and BT offers is probably very unlikely to make a dent to them. What they do need however is to continue developing and maintaining as big of a fanbase as they can here to help continue selling out hugely lucrative house show tours and merchandise sales. I'd imagine they particularly cant afford to lose loyal fans who don't want to take out another subscription to a seperate service to continue watching a current product that nobody seems to be enjoying. If the product is that poor its likely to struggle to attract new fans who already have BT and check it out but then dont maintain an interest. Whilst Im not for one second suggesting AEW will even lay a glove on WWE if theyre going to have a free weekly show on a channel available to vastly more people here thats also something Id see as a potential concern.

Maybe I'm wrong totally but those are my thoughts on the situation.

Winston Bogarde was always a useful squad member apart from his last few years at Chelsea. That was because he was on crazy wages that other clubs didnt want to take on though and he was happy to sit and collect his money instead of leave and earn less.

Football clubs keeping players who wont make the first 11 or are unlikely to is not a great comparison. That usually happens due to needing competition for training, the cost of fees to replace people most usually for more than you sell people you didnt want for, or also for the lucrative loan market where other clubs pay fees to develop your players for you and often cover their wages too.

With regards to Maria and Mike Kanellis, Maria has little to no nostalgia name value. No more than for example Kelly Kelly. Mike is never going to develop into more than he is currently and there is a near constant stream of solid yet vanilla workers who could step into his position any time required from either within or outwith the company. So to me it is a truly baffling bit of business to tie them to 5 year deals and commit to paying them both for that amount of time.

Also where it is dangerous is for other talent holding them to ransom if they see people like Mike Kanellis being given a 5 year deal possibly on goof wages...lets remember some of the insane amounts rumoured to have been offered to Tye Dillinger.

WWE may have money to burn currently but overpaying a bunch of people who wouldnt be missed is a dangerous trend to set.

6 hours ago, TildeGuy~! said:

One of the main events for the WWE Japan tour is Karl Anderson, Luke Gallows, AJ Styles and Triple H Vs Samoa Joe, Drew McIntyre, Bobby Lashley and Baron Corbin.

Why Triple H is part of the Bullet Club team and Finn Balor isn’t just amazes me.

The non bullet club team is like something from Survivor Series in 1995. Samoa Joe fair enough but the other 3 are as bland and uninteresting as can be.

When I first moved to Scotland it blew my mind that a "single sausage" meant 2 battered sausages. Then a sausage supper was 2 battered sausages and chips.

Step forward Mr Chippie, Letterkenny in Co. Donegal. Where battered sausage and chips means 3 battered sausages with chips.

Sadly cant post the picture as I cant figure out how to host it. 😐

Would we call working some dates for AEW for a hefty financial reward a "life choice"? 

We're not talking about a 300 dates a year, living out of airports and hotels, touring the world and never seeing your family.

If you were in your dream job but your boss in part made it that shite that you left, then he sued you for telling people how he treated you and you were bitter towards that industry going forward then years later you got a chance to try and take a dent out of his business but you wouldn't? Fair enough but not for me.

The thing with Punk for me though is I've always felt like he spat his dummy out with WWE but has taken absolutely no positive steps to do anything about the situation barring moan about it on his mates podcast with the insistance that he would cover him if they tried to sue then do a 180 on that promise.

If he really wanted to send a fuck you to Vince and HHH then why not add your name value to AEW and try and help a viable alternative be successful. 

I think the reason a lot of people are excited about AEW is that they're the first promotion since WCW to have the money, connections and platform to offer anywhere near a challenge to WWE's near entire monopoly on the market.