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  1. 4 minutes ago, Chris B said:

    What would an authority figure add? Seriously, what would it add? We've been stuck with lazy authority figure storylines for decades, because one really worked. It's been a great idea to eliminate it. 

    An overbearing authority shadow taking over the entire show is overdone, I'm sure we'd all agree on that.

    Its not unreasonable to have an authority figure who's there to stand in when needs be though. Jack Tunney might not be on TV for a month or two at a time, but was always there lurking in the background.

  2. I know they couldn't help themselves with shit like this at the time, and was wholly predictable, but I always thought it was a mistake to frame the invasion from wholly within the McMahon prism.

    Let's be honest, did anyone really want Stephanie to lead ECW? Is there a company less suited for her to buy than ECW? Shane leading WCW was understandable, but throwing her into the mix just turned it into a regular WWF storyline of the time.

    It wasn't ideal but I did think that DDP and Booker T etc were just about big enough names to get away with, had they booked them properly. The proper stars weren't going to walk away from guaranteed money for doing nothing, who sane actually would? (Hi Page). Booked right (and that's quite an ask) they could have held off until more WCW stars turned up and spiced things up.

    But moving over Austin (of all people!) to WCW did more to dilute than promote the brand, and just turned it into a glorified stable war.

    Ric Flair turned up the night after the Survivor Series ffs, they obviously had him tied up at least weeks prior to that. Bischoff had fuck all to do and would probably have come in sooner if asked etc.

    I can't help but think that ego's got in the way here and they couldn't wait to crown the WWF champions of the promotions wars before going back to business as usual. Serious money was left on the table and it was all downhill from here, business wise

  3. On 5/2/2020 at 6:26 AM, simonworden said:

    Billy Gunn is one who a bit like Scott Hall seed to look smaller than they were on camera. Seeing him in a few small UK halls I was stunned how massive he was. 

    Probably alone in this regard, but Scott Hall always looked a bit too gangly to me in the WWF and WCW. Thought he had a better look when he was bulkier in the AWA.


  4. 1 hour ago, Supremo said:

    Well, go nuts, guys. All that fun stuff has slowly eroded away and you’ve been left with the dull dross you always wanted. Have fun.

    You could just as easily use that to describe the chasing away of the casual wrestling fan over the past 20 years. 2002 Ring of Honor has become the mainstream.

  5. 3 hours ago, IronSheik said:

    Absolutely how I feel about the golden era and the current sterile cookie cutter era. 

    Sterile would be pretty accurate I suppose. Wrestling's presentation wasn't designed to be so crisp and shiny with everyone looking so perfect, its kind of lost its charm in a way.

    Even watching a lot of matches these days, the moves are executed a little too perfectly and with too much obvious choreography (from the 'victim') for a lot of the high spots.

  6. You know what, I genuinely liked Steve McMichael in a totally non-ironic way back in the day. This was mostly pre-internet so I hadn't been influenced by the opinion of others and  my lack of exposure to the inner workings hadn't opened my eyes to how terribly green and inept he was in the ring either.

    Granted, my fondness was almost wholly based on his outstanding theme music, but still. 

    (But looking back, it shocks me they allowed him to perform piledrivers, given his experience level!)


  7. 8 minutes ago, FelatioLips said:

    I stomached about a week of silent shows then binned it off. I’ll watch again when the crowd’s back.

    I can imagine that if you consider wrestling to be a performance art and are motivated by the moves themselves, maybe a bit like the silence in some Japanese venues, then its not too bad. But I need all the bells and whistles otherwise the deathly silence and no one watching just makes it feel pointless really.

  8. Shortly after my youngest sister was born, I came home from school to my mum saying she had a treat for me. She handed me a VHS tape which had the last half hour of WCW Worldwide, having been up all night with the baby, she'd spotted that some wrestling was on.

    All I can remember was Van Hammer wrestling someone but I spent hours trying to faff around with Video + (anyone else remember that?) trying to put in the codes so it would record Worldwide for me the following week. 

    (On an unrelated note, can you imagine an athetics meet on Prime Time Friday night ITV1 these days?!)

  9. We all know that pro wrestling is even worse than Sky Sports/WWE for over hyping its product, but what wild claims have made your eyes roll over the years?

    To me one of the most stupid is when Arn Anderson claimed that the Undertaker's WM streak was akin to winning 18 Superbowls in a row. Fuck me, I don't even know where to start with how wildly overstated that comment is.

    Gorilla proclaiming the Undertaker to be a "cold blooded individual" at WM8 also annoyed me unbelievably as a kid as my Dad starting taking the piss about how ridiculous and fake this "WF shit" was.


  10. So, this exists.

    "When retired World Wrestling Entertainment's (WWE), George "The Animal" Steele and Greg "The Hammer" Valentine buy a fish camp in the back woods of Florida, somethin' fishy is bound to happen! Written and directed by Arte Tedesco.

    "This independent film is loads of fun with references to the good ole days when the two wrestlers battled in the ring."



  11. On 11/2/2019 at 3:37 PM, Benoitmark said:

    Around 2005 I switched over to MMA, now I can't for the life of me stomach wrestling. I just see the obvious flaws in matches and mistakes they make that would get them destroyed in a real fight. These days it also seems like wrestlers realize most people know what a real fight looks like, so they have disregarded about 80% of trying to make a match look or feel real and things are a lot more choreographed.

    To be honest I have never been able to get into MMA at all, and if I want to watch combat sports it will be a high profile Boxing match. UFC feels too much like wrestling with the fun taken out of it (which is probably an unpopular opinion in itself).

    However, I do feel you're onto something in regards to having given up even trying to present a believable wrestling product. The modern style, while a great deal of people rave about the improved workrate and athleticism, looks even faker than it did back in the day when my Dad would painstakingly point out every time a wrestler stamped their foot on the mat etc.

    I never liked Ring of Honor and the indy style when it developed during the early to mid 2000's, so I suppose I'm hardly likely to like it now its become the mainstream.

    Everyone's tastes are different but I've long found it hard to put my finger on what exactly I find so off-putting about the current presentation. Randomly enough, an email to a podcast I listen to (The Lapsed Fan, so in fairness the angle is pretty obvious) was the nearest I've come, when it described the recent 'cinematic' matches at Wrestlemania.

    It stated: "Wrestling has transitioned into something to be enjoyed ironically, the attitude of "this is fake" is the foundation for watching wrestling these days."

  12. Did anyone in the UK actually know who Lawrence Taylor was in 1995? I certainly didn't.

    Its always been a bug bear of mine how the WWE, while claiming to be a global company etc, has had this tendency to wheel out American celebrities which aren't famous at all outside of north America and expect everyone to accept them as a big deal. That American Footballer at Wrestlemania being the latest example.

  13. 12 minutes ago, wordsfromlee said:

    I still find it baffling the amount of people who would say that Undertakers retirement match should be against Kane, considering their previous matches together have been average at best. 

    The Kane and Undertaker characters are inevitably intertwined though. Does it really matter if it ends up being 5* or not? That's my major disconnect with the modern mentality. 

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