Paul Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 I'll appreciate Benoit's work the same way. I don't see how the end of his life, this tragedy, in any way affects what he did in the ring or who he was in the ring. If Mozart had murdered five hundred people he'd still be one of the greatest composers of all time. Though, like Chris is destined to be, I don't think he'd be remembered for that. American wrestling has lost one of its virtuosos, you might argue one of the last great American wrestlers.The world's lost three more people in tragic circumstances.And wrestling itself's picked up yet another bruise.Mate, nobody will be 'allowed' to feel that way about Chris. Hell, even I feel somewhat dirty by mourning Chris after what's happened. I just feel so uncomfortable with it all at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_E_T_H_A_L Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 In quiet reflection, I put on the Chris Benoit DVD 'Hard Knocks' last night and found myself in tears watching my hero, knowing I'd never see him wrestle again.This morning, I'm ashamed of myself for doing so.R.I.P Nancy. R.I.P Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gallybagger Posted June 26, 2007 Paid Members Share Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) It is a shame that he won't be remembered for the mat veteran he was. Instead he'll be remembered as a murderer which is a shame.I am really saddened at this news, he has been my favourate wrestler for a long time. And the news was just as shocking as Eddie's death. But the circumstances are a lot more grim.Everyone says they are disgusted by his actions and they are ashamed to mourn him. I'm not. I'm going to leave his personal life out of this and mourn the loss of a great wrestler. We don't know the motives behind this and i doubt we'll find out the whole reason. Edited June 26, 2007 by The Pegasus Kid 1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 They're talking about this on CNN Headline News right now. Scott Ballard the D.A. on the case said Daniel had needle marks and they believe he had been on growth hormones for some time. The first text message sent said Nancy and Daniel were sick, and the last text message Chris sent said someone needs to check on his dogs and bank accounts.Daniel was on growth hormone???? WTF????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicRedneck Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Maybe he had growth hormone deficiency or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matbro1984 Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Maybe he had growth hormone deficiency or something.Perhaps, but if he had a growth hormone deficiency then surely the fact he had needlemarks wouldn't be noteworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockbus Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 "There's no holding me back,I'm not driven by fear, I'm just driven by anger.And you're under attack,I'm just climbing up slowly, I'm the one and only, I..."Chilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) After all we have heard it is difficult NOT to jump to conclusions when you discuss Benoit's son, needle marks, and growth hormone. I take it this was the stuff Benoit was taking himself??? Edited June 26, 2007 by Finlay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCP Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 After all we have heard it is difficult NOT to jump to conclusions when you discuss Benoit's son, needle marks, and growth hormone. I take it this was the stuff Benoit was taking himself???As I understand it, growth hormones are entirely different to steroids. They may be given to youngsters who are not, well, growing properly. I'm pretty sure it's unusual to administer them to a seven-year-old though, you would normally wait until after puberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 "There's no holding me back,I'm not driven by fear, I'm just driven by anger.And you're under attack,I'm just climbing up slowly, I'm the one and only, I..."Chilling.What is that from mate?? Is it Benoit's entrance music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTXRussomark Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Jesus, is this HGH thing being reported anywhere?It's hard to imagine things getting worse, but they seem to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockbus Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 "There's no holding me back,I'm not driven by fear, I'm just driven by anger.And you're under attack,I'm just climbing up slowly, I'm the one and only, I..."Chilling.What is that from mate?? Is it Benoit's entrance music?Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) I'll appreciate Benoit's work the same way. I don't see how the end of his life, this tragedy, in any way affects what he did in the ring or who he was in the ring. If Mozart had murdered five hundred people he'd still be one of the greatest composers of all time. Though, like Chris is destined to be, I don't think he'd be remembered for that. American wrestling has lost one of its virtuosos, you might argue one of the last great American wrestlers.The world's lost three more people in tragic circumstances.And wrestling itself's picked up yet another bruise.Mate, nobody will be 'allowed' to feel that way about Chris. Hell, even I feel somewhat dirty by mourning Chris after what's happened. I just feel so uncomfortable with it all at the minute.See, I think you're wrong there. Certainly there'll be some pressure to hate on Chris, we've seen evidence of that in this here thread. But I think Chris is going to be quietly ignored by the wrestling world from now on, ESPECIALLY if the report into his death opens up a massive can of worms. Lets not forget, if its decided by the media that WWE, its lifestyle, or the drugs or whatever is 'really' responsible for this, a lot of the focus of the anger is going to go away from Chris onto the big E. That's always what happens when some report or other decides something else is 'really' responsible. So in the end its down to each fan to come to terms with it their own way, either to look past the end and focus on the life, or to burn the idol and hate him to soften the blow of the deaths. You feel uncomfortable, and that's perfectly understandable, because this is one of the biggest shocks ever and there's a whole lot of issues to come to terms with. But eventually you will come to terms with it one way or the other. From what you've said, I think in the end you'll mourn Chris as much as his family. But I don't know you, and I'm just guessing.I'll fly a flag for him, no matter what anyone says.EDIT: I'm probably way too active in this thread, considering what it is, but I think getting my feelings out about this and talking with you lot is part of my own way of dealing with it. In a way I guess its led to some good, because I haven't posted on the UKFF in ages, and now I feel the need for a little digital company. I mean really, who the hell else is going to be able to share relevant feelings on the matter? Edited June 26, 2007 by edgecrusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gallybagger Posted June 26, 2007 Paid Members Share Posted June 26, 2007 The more i try to shy away from the grim nature of this and try to celebrate Chris as a great wrestler, the harder it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 After all we have heard it is difficult NOT to jump to conclusions when you discuss Benoit's son, needle marks, and growth hormone. I take it this was the stuff Benoit was taking himself???As I understand it, growth hormones are entirely different to steroids. They may be given to youngsters who are not, well, growing properly. I'm pretty sure it's unusual to administer them to a seven-year-old though, you would normally wait until after puberty.Wasn't it human growth hormone Brock Lesnar got caught with a few years back?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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