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Did his son's condition play a part in their marital problems? I don't see how it couldn't have

You might want to read my post on the previous page, Dave.

Some very interesting insights into the life of a family with a Fragile X sufferer, as sent in to PWTorch:

I have been a physical therapist for 12 years and in private practice for five. I deal a lot with children with fragile x, autism, autistic spectrum disorders (asperger's, PDD, etc.), and ADHD. In my experiences, these children are very difficult to deal with. They tend to display irrational impulsivity and other sociopathic behaviors. They often have motor development issues and self stimulating behaviors (repetitive noise making, head banging, etc.). They definitely require constant attention and supervision. This is not to say that Chris Benoit's son had symptoms to this extreme but this factor can not be underestimated when trying to understand this horrific tragedy.The strain this sort of special needs child places on a family is immeasurable. Then when you combine the facts that Chris Benoit had the stigma of being a small man in a big man's world and his child was grossly undersized, it is easy to see the emotional and psychological toll his son's condition must have taken on him.

I work at Lakeview NeuroRehabilitation Center in New Hampshire. We are a residential brain-injury facility and deal with many forms of birth defect including Fragile X Syndrome (FXS). I can tell you from experience that a child having severe FXS is never a happy ending for the suffering family. Most provide home care until age 8-10 until severe behavioral problems force the families into residential care. The costs associated with this type of care start in the $150,000 per year range, with the most minimal amount of supervision. More likely, (based upon my existing patients) this child would have needed 1:1 care 18hrs. / day. At my facility that's close to $300k per year. Given that Benoit probably had insurance, (I can't imagine he didn't) he would have still needed to kick in 10% - 40% of the bill until Daniel reached the age of 21. At that time, adults with FXS become emancipated from their parents and go on to Medicade. Typically, they remain at these types of facilities for the rest of their lives.Beyond the financial burden, the grief support system for the parents is often ignored. MOST Special Needs parents can't handle the stress that a child with Fragile X Syndrome brings to a relationship. Most divorce and many abandon the child into the state's welfare system. And please before you judge, you've probably never looked down that dark tunnel and seen that there's no light at the end. The despair felt by many parents is simply overwhelming. Add in the whole steroid component and...well. We're right here, where we are now, wondering what went wrong and why it didn't get stopped before it happened.I wish that this tragedy could have been avoided. I know that I will miss the Wrestler, Chris "the Canadian Crippler" Benoit. I can understand the loss and anger felt by the families of the Benoits. But before we paint Chris Benoit with such broad strokes lets look at why this senseless tragedy occurred and how we can stop it from happening again.

Sober and informed thoughts there.

If you can't discuss in a educated manner, Benno, please don't bother posting at all.

It seems that a lot of people here have decided the the terrible events of one psychotic episode can erase all of the other things a person does in his life. I understand that, but I personally feel that it's an over-reaction. If it turns out that Benoit had a mental breakdown leading to a psychotic fit in which he murdered his wife, then it's some way away from him suddenly being revealed as a serial killer or lifelong paedophile or something.His decision to take his own life and that of his son was obviously one that he considered at length. I can't ever imagine making that decision, but then again I can't being to imagine what it would be like to be in that position, to face leaving a mentally and physically disabled child without parents for the rest of his life, without his primary carers. I doubt many of us have ever had to face anything like Benoit faced last Saturday, and I'm honest enough to say that I honestly don't know what I would have thought or done.I'm not condoning the taking of lives, but trying to understand and empathise with a man who by all accounts has lived his life in the most upstanding way.

The pressure that caring for a physically or mentally handicapped child is one that many families do not survive, indeed being the primary carer for a disabled or ill child or family member is one of the toughest and least credited jobs in our society. While it in no way excuses what's happened this weekend, it may at least go some way towards explaining what may have triggered this family meltdown.I can empathise with this whole tragedy, but I think at this point it's fair to say that, whatever the motives and ancilliary circumstances that emerge over the next few weeks, indisputably we as wrestling fans have to come to terms with the fact that the character Chris Benoit that we loved and admired on-screen was in fact very different from Chris Benoit the man. That individual was ill enough, or deranged enough, to commit murder, and by that action he stepped forever out of the bounds of normal society.It saddens me immensely that this single moment of insanity has now completely annulled the 20 year career of the greatest wrestler of his generation. The WWE will, probably quite justifiably, erase him from their history as much as they can. They may even posthumously strip him of his title runs, it is within their power. I know that for me, the fun has been taken out of the sport and that, right now, I'm disinclined to continue to watch WWE programming certainly.I cannot begin to imagine the emotional anguish that his close friends and family will now go through. To reconcile the person they knew with the person that is emerging from these crime scene reports may take the rest of their lives.What a terrible shame, all of this.

Or just disturbed. Or someone who just didn't know what to do, so did nothing for a while.Someone mentioned the Woolmer case - I guess I'm still hoping that there are some extenuating circumstances or mistakes along the way.

Everything about Chris Benoit has been removed from the homepage of WWE.com other than the murder-suicide story.

What else can they do? Until the full facts are in they are going to be treading a very fine line.Re: KRISProdigy, I know that with my lifelong friends I'd try to judge them on all of their life, not just one awful episode. And even if I couldn't forgive, I'd try to understand.

It depends on how strongly his friends lobby for that to not happen.I agree with the poster above who said that for your very close friends or family, it doesn't matter what they've done, you'd still support them and fight for them. I hope that those who spoke so tearfully on Raw will fight for the memory of his career to last even if his life ended so tragically and, apparently, dishonourably.

For some reason, all I can think of is his ECW promos where he kept rubbing his hands, and they'd do close-ups showing the strength in his grasp.Today is going to be a long day I think. If I'm honest, I think anyone is capable of murder in the right circumstances, so somebody who's spent his professional life simulating violence is hardly immune.

From WO:

Ballard also told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that

I'm glad they did the tribute. If it turns out he did murder his family, we'll probably never hear or see anything of Benoit again from the WWE, and it's a sad shame that 24 hours of madness can erase a lifetime of hard work, friendship and loyalty.

We also managed to get through it without him murdering me and my mum over a three day period.

That's a shame.

I get the feeling you're really enjoying all of this, Moj. It'll make a witty anecdote on your internet wrestling show, that's for sure.

You know, I'm sure there are more twists and turns to this story yet to come.Even if he did kill them, I'm still going to remember him with a great deal of respect, as the finest wrestler of his generation, and someone who inspired millions of fans, and thousands of wrestlers. I also think this could have a really huge impact on the WWE, if it turns out he was taking a lot of steroids even under their so-called Wellness Policy then they have something to answer for.This is undoubtedly the biggest story in wrestling, possibly ever. If the US press get a whiff of potential scandal they'll run it like the OJ Simpson murder and wrestling will get hammered once again.

I think if my wife and child had just died horrendously in front of me, I'd probably take my life as well.This is just awful. I struggle to see what the WWE is going to do now in terms of storylines and the like.

Jesus fucking Christ. Just on my way to bed when I heard.I have to say, in all seriousness, I'm not sure I really want to be a wrestling fan any more. I can't think of another sport where as many stars seem to die untimely deaths. Benoit was the wrestler who made me a wrestling fan, and if he's dead then it'll be hard to carry on watching.I'm usually the first person to chip in during these threads with an inappropriate comment or sarcastic remark, but right now I just don't have the spirit.

Was Reno the storyline brother of Vito? Because his finisher was Rolling The Dice, and it looked a killer.

Them's the chappies. I remember Idol Stevens from my TEW e-fed, he was in my dev territory [/geek]. But I didn't realise it was the same guy as was in this team.They seem aight, pity they got sent down again.

Earlier this year I seem to remember seeing a new tag team on Smackdown, with a big blonde wrestler who looked a bit like Lance Cade (but wasn't). They're not listed on any official roster lists, and I've never seen them since. Am I going crazy, who were they?

Now, I'm sure you've all seen the Sharkboy impression of Stone Cold that was floating around earlier this week.

 

Well, here's some critical analysis of that from a HUGE TNA fan, and could it be our very own Mab? The resemblance is uncanny....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HVaIX6yX4w

 

 

 

That really does make me weep for the future of humanity.

Now THAT'S irresponsible parenting.

He couldn't wrestle in certain states due to his parole. He did a run in on the spirit squad and he did a kiss my ass/ masterlock segment but was then gone. He was brought back after that as a trainer/ coach but never made it back to WWE TV. Rumours say he's been sacked again but then Jannetty said he hadn't. Don't know what happened then but I don't think he works for them now!

Thank you Mab, though that's just the usual rumour stuff.Does anyone actually know anything more substantial than this?

I'm looking for some background on why Marty Jannetty was finred the last (2) times from the WWE? I just watched his match with Kurt Angle on Smackdown, and it looked like they'd found themselves a new top level face, the crowd were mad for him and he was still a phenomenal wrestler. I've read that it MAY have been due to parole problem, or something, but does anyone actually know? He must have been fired more times by WWE than anyone else, and yet I still think he should be brought back.

Like that Robbie Brookside thing - total kayfabe.

Like Hogan in Raw 2 for the Xbox, he was invincible..I'm playing a lot of SvR for 360, and also Theme Park on the DS. It's still hugely addictive.