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2 hours ago, Supremo said:

Drake was willing to film a vignette at his actual, real-life wedding and it was one of the best things the company did all year. He’s the best.

Sure, it was entertaining and he puts his all into everything and trying to make anything work, which is admirable. But, lets not act like if someone we didn't like decided to film a vignette at their actual real-life wedding the response wouldn't be along the lines of 'get a grip, it's your actual wedding, it's only wrestling!' or similar.

I'm not sure if Spud's crying from losing his dream job or the realisation of how his lifelong dream job handles situations like this.

1 minute ago, King Pitcos said:

What happened with Sid after WrestleMania 8?

Was thinking there's an obvious one i'm forgetting. Didn't he long off getting tested and walked instead?

Gallows and Anderson being involved in a WrestleMania "main event" and being released this soon after has got to be some kind of record hasn't it?

23 hours ago, wandshogun09 said:

Should’ve;

I always thought Taz and Saturn would’ve made a decent team. In ECW - I think they’d have fit better together as The Eliminators than anything involving John Kronus. And if Taz had gone to WCW with him in the late 90s, yeah they’d have been lost in the shuffle on a roster of a million guys but they could’ve had some cracking matches with the Steiners, Benoit/Malenko, Rey/Kidman and that lot.

Yes! On one of the early Smackdown games Saturn happened to have orange and black trunks and they both had a similar skin tone in the game, so naturally i stuck them together as a team. Genuinely think they'd have been a good fit though and just sounds like the sort of team i'd have fucking loved.

I always thought Alberto Del Rio would have his face turn by saving Ricardo Rodriguez, they'd start teaming with Alberto getting Ricardo to believe in himself and they'd eventually bag the titles with Ricardo scoring the victory in a little feel good story.

"Talk about your Psalms, talk about John 3:16...Holly 3:16 says i just whipped your ass!"

4 minutes ago, Statto said:

The two shows on the sheet are both house shows, and appear to be a few weeks after KOTR 2002, assuming the dates written on the sheet are accurate.

Ah yeah, didn't clock the hashtag! Assumed they were house shows at first but took the Raw to mean Raw, forgetting there were separate Raw/Smackdown touring house shows.

3 hours ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

That's just before the Eric Bischoff debut show. A major shakeup went on there, since Nash tore his quad the week prior.

Isn't it just after Austin walked? Flair vs Brock happens instead of the Austin match. Think the other show might be where Vince does his 'Ruthless Aggression' promo too, possibly? I'm sure that show had a Brock vs RVD IC title match, with Brock powerbombing RVD through the announce table and then mouthing 'Ruthless Aggression'. All just before King of the Ring.

It's the kind of thing that should only be imagined or actually possible through a computer game in Street Fighter or something.

46 minutes ago, Tamura said:

Damn those networks and advertisers for wanting up-to-date TV shows featuring stars that current viewership will be familiar with, instead of Skinner versus Repo Man from 1991 with German commentary.

If they're insisting they continue with live shows for original content by the usual means then yeah, damn them. Personally, the only stuff i enjoyed over WrestleMania weekend was the matches that took a completely different approach with the Boneyard and Funhouse stuff and the new content that went up on the Network. The Edge, McIntyre and Undertaker stuff, some of the stuff i've enjoyed on there the most and the Untold on HBK vs Kurt from WM21. I realise a lot of this is aimed at perhaps a slightly different audience than much of the usual Raw and Smackdown viewership. But could they not put together more stuff like the Untold series, with today's current crop commenting and discussing matches and angles from home. Or in a video podcast style. They film absolutely everything these days, they're must be all sorts they could knock together focused on current stars. Plenty of current stars do their own podcasts and shit. When WWE are forced to be creative they usually provide quality stuff. Whatever the circumstances are, whoever is forcing them continue in this fashion there must be another way. Literally everything else in the world is forced to have found another way for now.

1 hour ago, wordsfromlee said:

I doubt this means she's coming back anytime soon. She does this every few months and everyone jumps on the "she's lining up a return" bandwagon. Surely if she was coming back, they'd have brought her in for Mania rather than now. 

In front of nobody? If this was planting seeds i'd have seen it as just that, starting talk more likely for SummerSlam or something. Not that i think it is. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she's done. Had her fun, made some money, but as much as she enjoyed aspects, the experience soured her on "our great sport". That quote about being dead if you had 300 legit fighting contests in a year is bang on and sounds just like someone who's been involved in wrestling and encountered a load of the toxic, awful culture and personalities within and thought it's not really worth it. Or she just gets a kick out of trolling over the top wrestling fans. I enjoyed her instagram post i must say. Or i'm being worked of course. Only makes me sympathise with her rather than want one of "our girls" like fucking Nia Jax of all people to slap her about.

It's garnered such polarising opinion and been such a unique thing for WWE to present it's probably worthy of splitting into its own thread for discussion.

Forgot about the little Luke Harper segment. This Vince stuff is really bad. He's one guy i wish had just come in sticking with his WWE stuff. His timing has perhaps been a bit shit as he'd probably have been a great fit for the spot Archer now has with Jake. Although with both of them coming in about the same time could have built them up separately face and heel for a big hoss collision down the line,

3 hours ago, BomberPat said:

 He made Batista a sea monster in his girlfriend's goth stable, let's not forget.

Reckon i'd have really enjoyed the Minnesota Stretching Crew though!

23 minutes ago, King Pitcos said:

There must have been a reason why neither company went for it, though. It might have been because he was such a head-the-ball. You could trust Hogan, Bret, Sting, Luger and Flair to go on a morning show and not end up raping Regis with their thumbs. Send Scotty instead and it's a gamble.

As true as that is, there were still points where they were willing to take a stab with the likes of Warrior and Sid too. I've heard that WWF did want to split them and push Scotty, but he was against a split, so there's that. But i've always seen him being pretty damn perfect for the Luger push. I'd like to take whatever gives you a Firefly Funhouse vision and experience that alternate reality and see how it'd have played out.

On 4/10/2020 at 1:44 PM, Snitsky's back acne said:

Oh my God this sounds absolutely horrible.

It truly was.

Seemed like the lads around ringside had been given particular instruction to make a lot of noise and create a sense of atmosphere and excitement. Fair play, made a noticeable difference.

I love Scott Steiner. It's a common random thought of mine, as much as i love the Steiner brothers as a team, how i believe had he had a rocket strapped to him at points in his early WWF or WCW tenures that he could have been bigger than curly fries. What a ridiculously impressive athlete and specimen he was. Particularly at that point. So much more so than anyone else around that time or most that came before him. Except perhaps only for good ol' Tommy Magee.

I mean, it really is.

Yeah, that thought occurred to me when Braun won it as well. Even his winning feels like a somewhat cursed scenario. More than over enough a couple of years back to take the main belt, only to now win one with no momentum behind him, shoved in a match on a weeks notice, with no build or reasoning behind it, in front of absolutely nobody.

And what @LaGoosh said. It has no credibility whatsoever. I've always hated when a title just suddenly comes from nowhere and is meant to be accepted as being on par with, or above other titles...with no real reason or explanation to back up that belief and gets slapped straight on someone in no time, not allowing time to establish that connection. The Universal title very much did that. Wrestling does it all the time, feeling the need to crown a champion often in a promotions very first show in existence.

I'd be quite happy for WWE to Benoit the Universal Title and just quietly drop it and forget it ever existed. Or for Braun to Hall and Nash it, accidentally dropping it in the bin and leaving it there.

That NXT thing reminds me, they go on in the latest episode about how stupid booking shoot contests is in their environment and the fact you can never 100% predict who's winning, but they didn't learn their fucking lesson. They went and did it again in Tough Enough with Puder and Angle. No way is Olympic gold medallist Kurt Angle getting embarrassed by any of these dickheads they're thinking, while actually just looking to humiliate and humble the Tough Enough lads. Puder, like Bart, just does what as far as he knows is what's required of him to potentially get ahead and win the competition, For daring to better and embarrass Kurt Angle, all they ever did was book him in a Rumble to get stiffed to fuck by Benoit (hmmm), Eddie and Bobcore Holly and swiftly eliminated after. Again, wrestling is so weird and just full of pathetic, insecure backwards cunts.

...Puder did also seem a giant cunt himself too though to be fair.

9 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said:

Doubt he’d have reacted how he did if it was Haku or Bob Holly who popped his nose though. He picks and chooses who he fucks with. 

The Brawl for All episode and the talk in that one of locker-room hard men, bar fighting and some of the infamous stories will all know had me fascinated at the prospect of one around ten years earlier featuring the likes of Haku, Rude, Race, Bret, Perfect, etc.

Enjoyed the Brawl for All episode, even if it did feel like it could be more. Definitely too much of the Cornette/Russo bollocks. What a pair of cunts. As much as i'm enjoying this series i really hope they and their pathetic feud don't both continue to be featured so heavily. Always liked Bart Gunn for some reason, liked him even more when he knocked all the other fuckers out in the fashion he did back then. They were handed a gimmick really, ending Dr Death like that (let alone the rest) was a great fucking story, a potential star making one. I guess the story of this episode is how the people making the decisions in wrestling can completely fuck you if they want to and the completely pathetic ways you might get heat with the wrong people through no fault of your own and the repercussions of that. Actually, just how pathetic so many in wrestling can be in general.

Bart looks (and sounds) like a hard old bastard you wouldn't want to fuck with these days. Is he much older than Billy? Forgot how deadly that left looked. Fuck being on the end of that. 

35 minutes ago, Supremo said:

I couldn’t even make it through the main event without fast-forwarding. With that wanky finish, it was arguably even worse than Edge vs. Orton.

When exactly did HBK start as an agent for NXT? Is he the reason it turned into such awful shit? Like someone trying to take that, “I’m sorry, I love you,” thing from the Ric Flair retirement match and making a whole promotion out of it. Terrible.

Check out the latest Untold on the network. It's focused on HBK vs Kurt from WM21. It's a good watch, but it also features Gargano coming across like a dork absolutely fangirling and jizzing everywhere over the pair of them and that match. And basically confirming that his love for those two (and their multiple false finish/near-fall and melodramatic style) is responsible for his (and much of NXT's) wrestling today. Explains a lot.

The above seems to have been the general consensus from what i've seen. Which is understandable, The Funhouse was very insidery and was playing off a whole load of references that required some knowledge of the past 30 years of WWE. A 9 year old won't care about that and only knows one version of John Cena. WrestleMania nowadays always has something that is more aimed at the 'smark' audience and rewards loyal viewing/following of the product. It'll usually also have something that very much appeals to the younger audience too. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a bit of both.

Everyone seems to be comparing the Boneyard and Funhouse. They've been dubbed 'cinematic' wrestling, but they were very different. Boneyard was your big action blockbuster, Funhouse was your David Lynch like, wanky arthouse picture (not a knock, i loved it).

Fuck. Holy Shit! Right, ok...let;s draw back to when we had a load of these Fireflly Funhouse segments post WrestleMania last year and suddenly everyone was loving Bray, praising his creativity, ingenuity and how he was going to change wrestling, rahrahrah...Then some (like Pitcos - were like, cool concept, but how will it relate to arenas full of people? Valid point! and it quickly became clear that, for all the cool ideas Bray might have, they may not quite work in that desired environment. Then covid-19 happens and changes everything and the way pro-wrestling is forced to be presented to the masses. Suddenly this is a new viable approach to getting over characters. The best received footage from this weekend was boneyard and funhouse, wwe should listen to that.

It’s the sort of thing that under any other normal circumstances likely would have been shit on by most.  Considering the circumstances though, it was wonderful! Very much the type of thing and direction I hoped they may take for WrestleMania being in such a unique situation by going all Lucha Underground on us.

Steph introduces the show saying they want to help take our mind off what’s going on in the world. Everything else was the bleakest of reminders of it, but the Boneyard absolutely achieved that! Was grinning like a dickhead throughout and actually left me wanting more and excited for tonight.

Firefly Funhouse could be more of the same or could be absolutely awful. If they take the same approach Bray could be in his element with such a style and presentation. But still means it could go either way.