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28 minutes ago, Accident Prone said:
However, this whole Scarlett Bourdeux character is a step in the wrong direction. It reeks of cheap Attitude Era titillation and will only encourage the writers to throw in more of that badly aged dirge.
I'm interested to see how it will all pan out. But personally speaking, even Attitude-esque cheap titillation makes a nice change of pace from what everyone else is doing at the moment. Wrestling needs to be fun again.
I prefer that to some of the OTT supernatural skits they're doing. I know it worked with the Broken Hardys but thought the brawl in the woods between Eddie and Sami and the Madison Rayne/Su Yung casket stuff was a step too far for my tastes.
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I loved his wrestling attire during that run.
I think he was actively wrestling until very recently.
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I loved Brian Christopher's run as a heel in late 97 and early 98. Sure it was pretty campy but I thought the less than subtle hints while Jerry and Brian pretended they weren't related was pretty funny. Had a pretty long running feud with Taka Michinoku for the light heavyweight title.
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2 minutes ago, Mr_Danger said:
Watch out for those racists!
The glory days of the late 80's, when no Englishman's holiday home was safe from arson.
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I would respond but fear that anecdotes of trying to find which farmer owned the latest sheep and cattle to run amok in our front yard isn't quite in keeping with the character of the thread.
These were our neighbours...
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Bit disappointed that Bruce didn't wear shades for Owen's induction into the Lou Thesz/George Targos Hall of Fame this past Saturday.
Also notice the bloke on the left checking out Harry Smith or Diana Hart's arse.
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I've had a free weekend so watched quite a few network documentaries over the past day or so. If there's one thing the company hasn't lost, its the art of putting together a great doc.
But some of them are a psychologist's dream. I don't think I've watched any where the phrase 'It was time for Wrestler X to come home to WWE' hasn't been repeated ad-nauseum.
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Can’t stand coffee, solid tea drinker here.
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Is this a north south divide or something?
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4 minutes ago, Accident Prone said:
Gravy, baked beans and mushy peas have no business being on, over or even anywhere near chips.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Not having that! Who are these sickos who eat their chips dry?
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10 minutes ago, Fatty Facesitter said:
Cycling is pish.
Eveyone in Wales is pretending to like cycling now that Geraint Thomas is doing well. Combined with packing out the Millennium Stadium for every 6 nations match despite no fucker watching the Rugby Union club sides, we really do love a good bandwagon. But agreed, cycling really is boring as hell to watch and I don't get it at all.
Throwing into the mix, I'd rather watch a Championship over a Premier League match any day. The PL is a load of overhyped nonsense really.
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10 minutes ago, King Pitcos said:
And even if those fans did stop watching Raw, they’d still be putting a tenner a month in the WWE kitty so they can watch NXT, which they convince themselves is hated by Evil Vince and Evil Kevin Dunn so their network subscription is actually a rebellion against WWE.
Its a genius move when you think about it...
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29 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said:
There will STILL be idiots waiting to post online about how shit your product is and will be tuning in again week after week.
This.
The WWE is in such a fortunate position in that regard. People say that TNA have been given an X amount of chances, but fuck me, these WWE lads couldn't lose fans even if they tried.
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I always feel that they get some gloriously random indy shows in the USA that we never get this side of the Atlantic.
Obviously its all down to the cost of flying them over, which means imports are usually limited to 3-4 at most.
But look at these cards for example, I'd fucking love to go and watch these. Fuck the latest indy darlings, I want to see Raven, Buff and Demolition in 2018.
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1 hour ago, Supremo said:
I've just realised. They're going to give Roman the title to a chorus of boos at Summerslam, then bring out the returning Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins to endorse him.
It won't work, but still.
I don't regularly watch WWE but surely it must be confusing and detract from the average viewer's enjoyment when your biggest babyface stars (Cena, Reigns etc) are being booed out of the building.
I just don't understand these fans' viewpoint tbh. If they're so unhappy with what's being served, why are they shelling out top dollar and making the effort to go to shows if they evidently hate it so much?
To a degree I can get watching Raw out of week out of habit, even if you don't really enjoy it, but actually going to shows to express how much you hate it all? Odd.
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11 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:
Could Jake Roberts have come back as a heel in 1996? They went down the old codger's redemption line that was such a raging success with Bob Backlund in 1993 with Jake dressed in his pyjamas. They were screaming out for credible heels in 1996 though and with Jake's size and great promos, could he have been more effective as a despicable heel and a potential opponent for HBK in the summer when Davey was floundering in the role? Can't have been worse can it?
Depends how they would have built him. They basically brought him back as "Look at this old junkie and drunk, we're giving him a second chance but he has to hide his tits under a vest." But credibly built up, I'm sure he could have been a success.
I can imagine they'd have been hesitant in putting him in a major feud though, fearing he'd fall off the wagon again.
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1 hour ago, tiger_rick said:
The one other criticism I'd have of this show is that there isn't really a hook coming out. Everything was blown off so decisively that it will feel inorganic to continue it. It would have been a touch more interesting if they'd set some things up coming out. That's minor though. I'll check out the next Impact on the basis that this was good.
I'd agree to a certain point. But there's still some intrigue as to where Eddie Edwards' character goes from here and also what now for Moose I suppose.
I'd assume that's the last we've seen of Madison Rayne on Impact for a while.
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Don Callis appeared on his Killing The Town podcast this week, and it was a pretty interesting insight into their booking philosophy.
Austin Aries vs Moose:It reminded me a lot, and this is one of the reasons why when we booked this, of course this comes up, 'well, you know, straight wrestling match'. For me, and I tend to put things into an ECW context because that's kind of my background. I'm like 'Austin Aries is Shane Douglas'. Amidst all the chaos and all the craziness, a great professional wrestler goes in, outwrestles his opponent and wins. That's what Shane used to do. And you know he would use like tables here and there or whatever but sure, that was the thing, and it worked. Now you have to have a guy like you were Shane in his heyday to be able to pull that off. But I thought it delivered a 100% and I love the fact that you didn't have all the bells and whistles because it was different. Because as you know when you have a card you don't want chocolate cake for every meal. You want to mix it up.The main event following up two great matches:
It is a good problem to have because you want people to leave and be brought back to, 'well this is great wrestling. This is athletic. This is psychology. This is all of that stuff.' And that by the way is the hardest thing to imitate or duplicate is what you guys do. You could have people go out and do hardcore matches, it wouldn't be as good as what we saw last night, but top flight, athletic wrestling is hard to duplicate.The clean finish in the main event:
And that's the thing, as we're talking about this, if you're in that booking room, it's easy to go down the rabbit hole of 'well, we're gonna be sending people home unhappy because the heel's up, maybe we should do a screw finish' and when Scott and I came here in January, one of the things that we both felt very strongly about is clean finishes. Clean finishes and if people don't wanna do jobs, we're happy to have a discussion. But then that's just not gonna work here. My thing last night was, and even yesterday we're talking like 'well maybe we should have the thing' and I'm like 'No. He's the best wrestler in the world. He beat the guy with his finish. It's an athletic contest. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a great match that people will be happy to see.'The story they were telling with Moose:
And it's the perfect example of when it's done right, everyone benefits. I think Moose benefited huge from that last night. He looked great. The story that we got to tell as announcers, because it's what you guys were painting out there is Moose literally went all in on everything, and maybe he took it a little far and did the Undertaker dive and crashed and burned. He went all in on that, he took a chance and the guy who's the smart veteran took advantage of that on the floor and it was too much to overcome. That's the sports story that people understand.Scripted promos:
Someone asked me like a week ago, 'well do you write promos for guys?' I'm like, 'No'. Then they're like, 'Yeah, but you're a great promo'. I'm like, 'Yeah, I can do a Don Callis promo better than anyone in this business. But if I start telling Eddie Edwards how to do a promo, he might sound a lot like Don Callis but that's not what we want!' I think it really is about the promo thing is about getting people comfortable with themselves and we're in a business where a lot of people come into this business not comfortable in their own skin. And now we're telling them, 'be this whole another character'.Sami Callihan:
He's so good at being Sami Callihan and being the type of heel that he is that he's probably gonna end up being a huge babyface at some point, because he's like that undersized guy who never backs down and just fights.Initial impressions of OVE:
Talking about being wrong about guys, I remember last October, and I told the Crists this yesterday, I remember calling Scott because I knew I was probably gonna end up coming in here, I just hadn't negotiated my deal yet. I remember watching the TV and just going, 'Oh my god. This is so bad. Who the hell are OVE? These guys are awful.' I'm like, 'Fire these two. This is brutal.' Now they're one of my favourite acts because they do so much nuanced comedy stuff with Sami that's sort of not supposed to be funny, and they're really talented wrestlers. You just gotta give them a chance and that's one of the best acts we've got, it's those three. It's awesome. -
The correct answer is of course 1997.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Impact announces more pay per view events after BFG, possibly for early 2019. Otherwise it seems odd they'd hold Redemption in April, Slammiversary in July, Bound for Glory in October and then nothing for six months. Is a PPV every 3 months the plan going forward?
(Please don't be fucking Lockdown though, I can't stand that show)
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11 hours ago, SpursRiot2012 said:
It's fucking hilarious in the WWE's series Monday Night Wars the narrator always says something along the lines of, "armed with Ted Turner's checkbook, WCW would sign established WWF stars." The most apropos line, which for whatever reason they allowed into that series, is from a deposition Ted Turner did where he says the WWF didn't have a right to a monopoly on the wrestling business. Which they didn't. I've never understood how anyone on the WWE side could, with a straight face, play the victim card with their revisionist history when it comes to the wars.
What's always cringe worthy is on that Monday Night Wars DVD where the ultimate stooge, Gerry Brisco, starts banging on about "kicking the crap, and stomping on WCW" and later Michael Hayes and Jerry Lawler ganging up on Bischoff on that round table discussion hosted by JR.
I'm convinced that a lot of the staffers still take it as a personal affront that WCW dared challenge them, and that still shows to this day when they hijacked Sting's return to prove a stupid point.
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Yeah, its like its something to be ashamed of. I would prefer it if Bischoff, instead of denying something that we all know is true, pointed out that this is exactly what McMahon did (and often much worse) in the early to mid 80's. I detest the company's double standards when it comes to that.
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There's also that story of Hogan's contract expiring around the same time (late 97) and the negotiations to bring him back.
Its mad to think how different things could have been as the WWF's schtick at the time was basically they had all the up and coming stars and the main eventers that could still 'go' whereas WCW had all the washed up hasbeen's.
Random Thoughts III.
in UK Fan Forum
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When you think about it, Dick Ebersol and NBC had a massive impact on the WWF's presentation and production values didn't they?
Wrestlemania 1 looks like something out of the 1970's with a dark arena and a single spotlight. Yet just a few months later, in May to be exact during the first Saturday Night's Main Event, the lighting and overall presentation and graphics looks like something we'd grow much more accustomed to.