NEWM

I'm having a bit of gip posting the actual pictures, but Joey Styles has tweeted a couple of pics of the Outlaws at MSG tonight for those interested. They still look like stars, even over blurry phone photos. Get the belts on them yesterday, I say.

That Cena/Bryan Christmas Cardigan picture is great. What a fantastic story.

Just spunked my whole dick off watching the last four episodes of The Wire Season 3. Fucking AMAZING. I get the formula now, and I love it. Though brilliant by any other standards, I now see why the first 6/7 eps of the season seem low on incident. They're weaving layer upon layer of stories forming the complex narrative and multiple motivations for all the characters and their arcs. You don't realise quite how much until you get blitzed with payoff after payoff at the back end of the season, and by that point you're picking your jaw up having watched THE BEST SHOW EVER. I'm pretty sure I posted something similar in this thread around the end of my watching of Season 2 (and maybe even 1), but I just can't help being so enthused at perfection of the craft. Phenomenal, just phenomenal. The show just feels once-in-a-lifetime good.

I'm aware my observations are about 5 years old by the way, but it's all new to me, so go bollocks. And obviously please don't be to spoilery in the thread if you don't mind, I'll be cracking on with Season 4 soon. I'm excited but totally clueless of where they'll go next with it. I'm one day quite excited to read that Wire thread on here, hope it's still kicking about.

Watched this today, the final Nitro before Uncensored 1996 (which the announce team do a monster job of putting over as the most must-see thing ever!).WCW Monday Nitro - it's fucking brilliant

1am on Christmas Day for a taped show? I can't think of anything more upsetting.

I think I'll probably be in for this. If you also make terrible life decisions sometimes, I'm in here, by the way - http://us7.chatzy.com/71020308082340

1 out of 1 for my tour through Woy's film list of the ones I haven't seen. Bernie was a fucking treat. Easy to forget that Jack Black is a pretty capable actor sometimes. Terrific film.

Read this and loved it. What do you lot think of this fantasy booking from Fat Scooter Keith on The Shield between now and Mania:

Kane & Bryan was a rare case of pulling the trigger at exactly the right time but they've run their course as champions, and they need to switch the belts to the Shield ASAP and let them do the Freebird thing with them.

 

I would have them fuck over the Rock's title match (because of the injustice of Rock getting an unearned title shot) and seemingly reveal their allegiance to CM Punk, but that's just me. Just by interacting with Rock they'd immediately jump another 15 notches up the ladder. Then you do Shield v. Rock & Cena for the tag titles at Elimination Chamber and that's where THE MEGAPOWERS EXPLODE to set up the Wrestlemania rematch. Honestly, I'm liking the Punk's title reign v. Undertaker's streak idea at Wrestlemania more and more and I think they should just go with that instead of giving it to Rock.

I'd like a big fuck off thread collecting pictures of all the different gears Shawn Michaels had, just because I like it when wrestlers have loads of different outfits and obviously I'm a big old fruit. People could contribute one or two at a time so everybody can chuck in their favourites because everybody obviously has favourite Shawn Michaels trousers. Is this shit or should it happen? Thanks.

Russo's ace on the new Raw DVD. Fuck it, bring him back in. What's one more body in that convoluted writing system they have now anyway? Not least a mad shite who might plant a few seeds that grow into something good. I know they tried that back in 03 or whenever it was, but it's a different time now.

Will try and sneak in as I have an inkling something big will happen tonight. Last year's TLC was one of my favourite Chat's ever too. Ryder beating Ziggler (how long ago does that seem now??), D-Bry cashing in, and the Nash/HHH underrated classic went down an absolute storm in Chat last year.

DIRTY EDIT: Ah, fuck it. There's a tease of some chat going on here: http://us7.chatzy.com/84970727151608

Just watching the very enjoyable Top 100 Raw Moments documentary, and I've never noticed in the commentary of when Dude Love and Austin won the belts, JR calls Foley a "Sex Idol". Well funny. Awesome, now K-Fed's just come on too for the next moment. K-Fed was fucking brilliant. He got it.

DIRTY EDIT: Ian, those WCW Live shows sound good, a nice companion to the weird alternate WWF world of Byte This. Is there a lot of them kicking around online anywhere? Usual places if I go hunting?

- Best event

TNA Slammiversary

WWE Extreme Rules

Raw 1000

- Worst event

WWE Royal Rumble

WWE Elimination Chamber

- Best wrestling TV show

TNA Impact

NXT Redemption

- Best promo

Cena on Rock 27/02/12 - where he mocks the scribbles on his wrist.

Cena on Punk 10/09/12 - As ShortOrderCook discussed in detail above. The best promo of the year for me.

Stephanie McMahon on Raw 1000

- Best DVD/documentary

The Channel 4 Knights Documentary

Kevin Nash WWF 1995 Timeline

Did the latest Steve Austin DVD come out this year? If so, that one. If not, the Edge one.

You're about a page late, you clowns.

Didn't he throw a piss weak dropkick too? Someone will .gif that for you hopefully. I actually quite liked him as Director of Authority in TNA. Believable young cool face authority figure, very few of them come around.

Oh yeah, that was a good cover. I'll vote for the Attitude DVD cover. I liked the simplicity of the nWo cover too, that can have one as well. Forgot about DVDs.

- Best moment

Sid's Return to Raw

Cena pinning Brock

Ultimate DX on Raw 1000

- Biggest anticlimax

Jericho's return

The end of Bully Ray and Sting vs Aces and Eights at Bound For Glory

- Funniest moment

Slick at AJ and D-Bry's Wedding

Hand Henry at Raw 1000

Ryback kicking the scooter over

- Best bang for your buck *

The Prime Time Players

NXT Redemption era Johnny Curtis

Samoa Joe

- Best non-wrestler

Paul Heyman

Hulk Hogan (does he count?)

John Lauranitis

- Poster of the year

This is a stupid category designed to bum the AJ/Bryan PPV one. Panderers. She's not reading this you know. Nor is he.

- GTFO

Sheamus

Alberto Del Rio

Chris Jericho

Yeah, I'm definitely going to watch this Superstars match like. Thanks for the heads up.

I'm in on that link above Pity. Try again.

Raw tonight, yay or nay?

- Wrestler of the year

John Cena

Daniel Bryan

Austin Aries

- Worst wrestler

Mr Anderson

Alberto Del Rio

Lord Tensai

- Best face

John Cena

Austin Aries

Sting

- Best heel

Daniel Bryan

Paul Heyman

Bully Ray

- Best tag-team

The Prime Time Players

Kaz and Daniels

Magnus and Samoa Joe

- Best performance

John Cena at Extreme Rules

Joseph Park at Slammiversary

Heath Slater vs the Legends

- Best feud

John Cena vs Brock Lesnar

Joseph Park vs Bully Ray

- Match of the year

John Cena vs Brock Lesnar, Extreme Rules

Bobby Roode vs James Storm, TNA Bound For Glory

Austin Aries vs Samoa Joe, TNA Slammiversary

Something we've all covered a lot on here too is the potential for some older guys to bring a bit of grit to the roster backstage too. Maybe empower a few guys to man up once in a while. The older names will obviously be doing plenty of jobs, but hopefully they'll still be wanting a better end result for the guy they're laying down for too. Loads of TV jobs with no purpose is possibly not something a Billy Gunn or Carlito would be that keen to come back for.

I recently got rid of Sky Sports, and since then I've found WWE Experience a very enjoyable way to keep up. As Pity said, you get all the main highlights and I personally think just getting the meat and potatoes makes it seem a lot more exciting rather than seeing it as part of a live three hour struggle. I'll watch Raw on Youtube (or Live if I'm up and Chat's on the go) by habit, and I'll be keeping an eye on NXT when the Kevin Nash/Adrian Neville tapings start airing (when's that due, by the way?). I must get round to Main Event too.

Yeah maybe actually, off work so might give this a bash. What's the health of Chat/that mIRC thing?

Similar question to that Greater Power one the other day - when, in storyline terms, do you think Austin and McMahon got together before Mania 17? A couple of weeks? After the Rumble? Before Austin even came back? Similarly, when was HHH clued in? I always thought his swerve turn against The Rock on the post-Mania Raw was meant to be him making a decision, so Vince and Austin weren't sure which way he would go. You can't imagine he'd be best impressed knowing ahead of time that Vince and Austin were in cahoots after he'd spent the best part of two years putting him out of action then fighting him upon his return.

Has anybody who downloads at US pace given Go On a look? I took a punt because it started before the other shows and I was desperate for some good new telly. And, well, Matthew Perry's just a treat isn't he?

Anyway, loved it for the most part. Not always piss pants funny, but a nice set of characters with lots of room to build on if the show gains a strong following. Perry's lead character is particularly strong. I haven't checked but I hope it gets renewed for a second season, it's been my favourite weekly watch this year.