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Hey, does JLM not post here anymore or what?

 

Sure he does.

On a similar note, I reckon it's time you let the cat out of the bag regarding your transformation from "dullard" into "decent." Not sure what happened, but it's been a revelation.

Here's THIS month's dose of Martin's bile towards the World Champion :

 

"Wow! Henry scored a clean pinfall on Orton in singles bouts on two pay-per-views. That's two more clean wins than Christian, CM Punk or The Miz were granted in one-on-one bouts against Orton on pay-per-view. The difference is, Henry - as the 15 years prior to Night of Champions proved - doesn't have the talent to get himself over, so WWE had to act for him. Christian, Punk and Miz all have what Henry lacks, and were therefore expected to find a way to convince the public that they were Orton's equal, even though the booking portrayed them as inferior."

 

It goes ON, in a two page (part one of who knows?) piece about WWE generally being shit and failing to make new stars :

 

"Vince McMahon expressed to investors that he had full confidence in his companys talent development structure in February and, yet, he made 15-year flop Mark Henry World champion on September 18. Would that have happened if the WWE machine was firing on all cylinders? Of course not."

 

 

 

In other PS news of note, you can sort of see gadge in one of the photos from the Dragon Gate UK show.

Definitely the latter. Going back to Mark Henry, I haven't read Powerslam in yonks. But would I be right if I guessed that Fin hasn't given Mizark any credit for his recent run? Judging by the earlier comment of Randy being brilliant in putting him over.

 

Just for you, 'corner. Or fruit, if you prefer.

 

Last month Fin said :

 

"WWE went all the way with Henry here. The match and its structure and the result were what can happen when a promotion makes a decision to do something wholeheartedly and implements it with the cooperation of the participants. WWE recognised that because Henry is rubbish, the arrangement of the match and his opponent had to accomplish what he could not.

 

It's telling that WWE did not book Orton to lose cleanly on pay-per-view to the talented and charismatic Christian in their series from May to August. At no point was Christian allowed to appear Orton's equal. You know, if WWE had the sense to do what it did here with Henry with a wrestler who has skills, pizzazz and top-card potential, then someone might get over in a meaningful, business-increasing way. You know who the last mid-card-or-lower guy was before Henry whom WWE pushed as a dangerous heel over a period of months? Vladimir Kozlov in 2008..."

 

(Air Raid editorial) : Bollocks to that last remark. Sheamus was portrayed as a killer prior to his elevation opposite Cena. He ended careers for fuck's sake.

 

continued...

 

"That Mark Henry was made World champion was a sad indictment of the state of the company and its years-long failure to exercise the patience and discipline to persevere with talent in order to create stars."

 

(Air Raid editorial) : What a fucking retarded comment. Say what you want about Mark, they persevered with him, and now he's at least by some standards, a star. What a nonsensical contradiction.

 

"Henry was chosen because WWE felt there were no other suitable candidates. The star shortage is something that will only be exacerbated by the decision to use the remaining top names of SmackDown on Raw and vice versa: it means less creative attention and television time will be allocated to the mid-carders who really need it.

 

Nevertheless, the Henry win did reveal something about WWE which one of an optimistic disposition could construe as a faint beacon of hope. WWE can still put someone over the right way: WWE, assisted by the brilliant Randy Orton, could not have worked harder at NOC to make Henry look like championship material on the night."

 

tbc...

What does Fin actually base the PS50 on? Is it their in ring stuff in 20 minute+ matches, their all round year, or just who Fin Martin likes more?

 

The theory (from ish 198) :

"(The PS50 is) the list of the best-performing wrestlers in the industry... rankings are based on grapplers' in-ring showings over a 12-month period"

 

The reality :

just who Fin Martin likes more

 

 

Last year's top ten, for shits and giggles :

 

10. Seth Rollins (well, it was for the year Tyler Black had in ROH really)

9. Chris Sabin

8. Naomichi Marufuji

7. Go Shiozaki

6. Shingo Takagi

5. Takashi Sugiura

4. Prince Devitt

3. Hiroshi Tanahashi

2. Davey Richards

1. Kurt Angle

 

So, Fin's best ten in the world were made up of :

 

TNA : 2

New Japan : 2

Noah : 3

Dragon Gate : 1

ROH : 2

WWE : 0

The PS50 I believe will be out next month as their year for review usually runs up to 30th November, IIRC.

 

Based upon some of the comments and write-ups of the past six months of shows, I expect high rankings for Randy Orton (described as "brilliant" in his role in putting Mizark over at Night Of Champions in last month's issue), Christian, Eddie Edwards and Hiroshi Tanahashi.

 

Fin gushed over Orton/Christian as WWE's "feud of the year" in issue 206 and claimed their match at SummerSlam was match of the night for the fourth PPV in a row - four times is a row? Bollocks. He can say, for example that some spots in Cena/Punk at MITB went a bit wrong, but it was the most exciting match on the card and was perfectly booked, so fuck knows how that wasn't his - or ANYBODY'S match of the night.

 

He'll also rank Edwards highly, possibly higher even than Richards, because he's cut from the same smarky cloth as the ROHbots, who after a lengthy campaign to install Davey as "best in the world!!11" typically got bored of him and decided that "actually, Eddie's better" just as Davey was on the cusp of actually winning the title. He described Edwards match with Roddy Strong as "40 minutes of superb wrestling" last month, even though for me it was OTT stipulation overkill.

 

Tanahashi will be the highest ranked Japanese in the list. Fin describes him as "the most proficient heavyweight champion in wrestling" this month, and while a lot of his defences have been very very good, they've suffered from the fact that other than when he's wrestled Nakamura, I've never really believed he would lose.

 

Oh, and Ziggler will be criminally overlooked. He won't make the top ten, even though for match quality there has been virtually no-one that's had the consistent year he has in WWE.

According to nodq.com the 1995 Survivor Series was the first Survivor Series to be held on a Sunday. what day/s did PPV's use to get held on?

 

In 1995 I believe they were all on a Sunday, but in 1994 and previous they were all over the place. Survivors used to always be on a Thursday because thats when the Yanks have Thanksgiving. SummerSlam 1994 was on a Monday. So yeah, all over the bastard place.

8 Man All Star Elimination Tag Team Match- Special 2 Hour Time Limit

 

This fills me with dread. How long will they book this to go? To justify putting that stamp on it, at least one hour I'm guessing? ROH has had the "long = EPIC!1 and good" mentality for far too long. Some of their lauded really long matches have been a chore to watch.

My mate told me that when he went to Tokyo he discovered that they have heated toilet seats in the hotels out there. He said it was horrible- as if someone else had just been on right before you.

 

Some of the toilets in Tokyo have so many different buttons, options and settings it can actually be quicker sorting out your tactics and formation for a Champions League semi-final second leg on Football Manager, than setting up your imminent dump.

Yeah, you're a decent looking lad. Hope your pant-wanking days are over, you shouldn't be resorting to that.

I have a seriously weird fixation on that woman, to the point that when I saw she'd done a gang bang scene (had only ever seen her do 1 on 1, no anal) I got a weird feeling in my stomach and felt a little bit like i'd been cheated on.

 

I shudder to think what you did to make yourself feel better.

How many times has the IC Champ had a shot at the WWE Title?

 

Macho Man as Intercontinental Champion had many shots at the Hulkster.

The Ultimate Challenge, as you mentioned.

Mr Perfect had shots at Ultimate Warrior, one of which was on a Coliseum tape.

Bit tenuous, but new Intercontinental champ Roddy Piper was in the Rumble in 1992 which was for the WWF title.

Newly crowned Shawn Michaels shot at Bret at Survivors 1992, well remembered The Reverend, one of my favourite matches.

Diesel challenging Bret Hart at King of the Ring 94 as Handsome Butch mentioned.

Jeff Jarrett had shots at Diesel when he was on top, one of which I think aired on Raw.

Goldust challenged Bret on house shows in the run up to 'Mania 12.

Benoit had a few shots at The Rock between Vengeance and SummerSlam 2002.

Hunter unifying the IC title with the Big Gold Belt against Kane, as you remember.

Jeff Hardy challenging Randy Orton at Royal Rumble 2008 as mentioned by Bowyo T.

 

There may be more.

Also wasnt Hogan/warrior the first ever real big babyface/babyface match ever?

 

It was certainly the first massive PPV main event or World title match I can think of between faces in the WWF, but there are also the following televised examples or face vs face that pre-date it, if you're interested :

 

Ricky Steamboat vs Davey Boy Smith (The Wrestling Classic)

Hart Foundation vs The Rockers (September 11th 1989 edition of Prime Time)

Ric Flair vs Sting (Starrcade '89)

Road Warriors vs Steiners (Starrcade '89)

 

There might be more, but those come to mind as I've recently watched all of them.

Babestation doesn't count, right?

 

I will be unable to sleep if I don't find out who.

Hugo was always sent sprawling whenever some hapless babyface was sent smashing through the table. I felt sorry for him, he was a big unit and always ended up pretty helpless on the floor like an upturned tortoise. Carlos always seemed to escaped unscathed, or at least not in an unflattering supine position.

You might want to reign in the trolling considering the mods think you're a penis.

 

 

Why would anyone give a fuck about that?

 

Because too much penis-like (or penisesque, if you prefer) behaviour might get you banned?

Look at Ian Tate, Scarman, Stefan Hard (who's also a BRITWRESTLER), Matt Hughes who has a legit about 11", our very own Tony James and Omar Williams.

 

Omar's still going?? He was a legend when I was at school. He must be in his 40s now, right?

And If you buy porn, well, you're a loser.

 

 

Anyone that knows a porn 'actress's' name is a loser.

 

 

Get fucked. Jenna Jameson, dickhead.

 

 

Apart from her, and any other overly famous porn names.

 

 

Van backtracker.

 

 

I usually keep out of the PS/Fin debate as I still buy and read and usually enjoy the mag, but his response to a letter about Kevin Nash saying "I made WWE cool again" is really dumb in the current issue.

 

He suggests that Kevin either believes what he's saying which is clearly ridiculous in Fin's eyes, claiming Nash has contributed nothing to wrestling in about 13 years, or he "knows the truth" and is just trying to portray himself as a difference maker to the audience and to "promoters."

 

Or... how about it would be really fucking dumb for a pro wrestler - in character - to go out on television and say anything but something designed to put themselves over? Jesus Christ, Fin, he's hardly going to stand in the middle of the ring and say "You know what, I'm fairly irrelevant these days...." is he??

Probably the most disappointing part of chat last night was Kookoocachu's refusal to hand over names or pictures of any of the forumers who sent her pictures of their cocks several years ago.

 

Does she collect them?

 

Ah, memories. A/S/L?

Has Flaming June taken his ball and gone home?

Big thanks to Boydy122 for the invite!

WAIT..... you meant PWtorrents, right??For a split second I thought you were off to Kiddy.

Right so I know we've got some wCw nuts on here, I've never really watched wCw, but I want to buy some season sets. Im thinking of starting with 1996, but im not sure, I loved the attitude era WWF, from around 1998, stuff before that I didnt really like, so would WCW 1996 work for me or should I start a bit later, maybe 98?

Honestly for thrills, spills and surprises, I'd start with 1996 and go from there. You'll skip a lot of the Hogan/Dungeon dross, still get plenty of Flair/Savage goodness and get a feel for what the WcW scene was like before the Outsiders turn up. In fact re-watching the 96 set I was happily just popping disc after disc in, and didn't even realize I'd gotten to that point until the match started, and I went "oh shit, it's ONNNNNNNNN."Oh, but wCw?

Wasn't there a JoeyJuJuJunior on here once...?

He's not geg-eyed or a bint. He's a black male with 20/20 vision.

fleischmark can't see the difference. His eyesight's on the blink from the niff from familial underwear."Where's the car?""Probably over there, behind the gusset."