Yoghurt Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) It's weird, as a Liberal voting person even I feel like a minority on here, admittedly I am more centrist then a lot but it's quite ridiculous. Â Take solace in the fact in spite of them positive changes for the medium and long term security of the UK are happening. For all the rhetoric, they're on the back foot. And it is a good thing. Edited February 24, 2011 by Yoghurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 That's rubbish though, I'm not left wing, and though some of my replies have been sarcastic, I think that's a better approach than calling people idiots or ideologues. There are plenty of people like me posting in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted February 24, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted February 24, 2011 Actually, Loki, I wasn't thinking of you when I posted that. For the most part, you've been great in this thread. Yes, I would probably wind up more to the right on a political scale than you would, but that's life. There are others I was more thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soretooth Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 It's weird, as a Liberal voting person even I feel like a minority on here, admittedly I am more centrist then a lot but it's quite ridiculous. Take solace in the fact in spite of them positive changes for the medium and long term security of the UK are happening. For all the rhetoric, they're on the back foot. And it is a good thing. Did you vote Lib Dem in the general election? And you're happy with how things turned out, you feel like you got what you voted for? I voted for them and now I feel like a gullible twat. I felt totally betrayed, lied to and stabbed in the back when I watched the coalition be formed and Cameron made prime minister. I will never vote for that party again as long as I live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Did you vote Lib Dem in the general election? And you're happy with how things turned out, you feel like you got what you voted for? I voted for them and now I feel like a gullible twat. I felt totally betrayed, lied to and stabbed in the back when I watched the coalition be formed and Cameron made prime minister. I will never vote for that party again as long as I live. What did you vote for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoghurt Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) I don't hate the coalition. Yes I voted for them at both National and Local level. I feel it's not an ideal government but it's vastly superior to Labour in every capacity and at least there are some concessions on the idiotic Tory social policies. Â I'll vote for them again, I cannot bring myself to ever support Labour in any capacity. Â Edit - I don't buy into the blaming banks solely for the collapse either. I think there's a good quarter to third of the blame needs to fall on the people of this countries heads. I know that's really unpopular round here. Edited February 24, 2011 by Yoghurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted February 24, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted February 24, 2011 See, my mother (and people I know of her generation) grew up under Thatcher. And she was in power for so long, a resentment built up regardless of the policies and actions she took. Â I was 10 years old when Labour won in 97. I hate Labour. Because I grew up under a Government that, to me, was far too centered around welfare, asylum, etc etc. Of course, I got older, and the complexities of all those issues became apparant to me. But it didn't change the fact that I just cannot stand Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soretooth Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Did you vote Lib Dem in the general election? And you're happy with how things turned out, you feel like you got what you voted for? I voted for them and now I feel like a gullible twat. I felt totally betrayed, lied to and stabbed in the back when I watched the coalition be formed and Cameron made prime minister. I will never vote for that party again as long as I live. What did you vote for? I'll freely admit that I was taken in by "Cleggmania", especially after the TV debates. Here's his introduction to their manifesto, I've bolded the bits that stand out the most to me as his blatant hypocrisy now he's in power. Â Elections that can really make a difference don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoghurt Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't think anyone is denying he is a hypocrite, but I'm pragmatic enough to see there are more positives in letting the coalition work then forcing a minority government, nothing happening and more Labour continuing it's march to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soretooth Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I don't think anyone is denying he is a hypocrite, but I'm pragmatic enough to see there are more positives in letting the coalition work then forcing a minority government, nothing happening and more Labour continuing it's march to hell. But you said you were a Liberal voting person, so you are content to vote for a hypocrite? Pragmatism's got nothing to do with it. It guts me that the party I misguidedly voted for are propping up this coalition and putting through cuts that no-one voted for, because they were not in either manifesto, and in many cases directly contradict what both parties promised they would do when they were trying to get elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoghurt Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I disagree, I think it is pragmatic in a very literal sense, It isn't ideal but it's not the worst outcome, the worst been more Labour or a majority Tory government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I don't think anyone is denying he is a hypocrite, but I'm pragmatic enough to see there are more positives in letting the coalition work then forcing a minority government, nothing happening and more Labour continuing it's march to hell. But you said you were a Liberal voting person, so you are content to vote for a hypocrite? Pragmatism's got nothing to do with it. It guts me that the party I misguidedly voted for are propping up this coalition and putting through cuts that no-one voted for, because they were not in either manifesto, and in many cases directly contradict what both parties promised they would do when they were trying to get elected. People are never going to vote for cuts to anything to do with them. Yet cuts still have to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted February 25, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hold up, guy who said "nobody voted for cuts." If I recall right, the Tories got the most seats, but not a majority. So some people obviously voted for cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted February 25, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted February 25, 2011 I mean, I knew if the Tories got in there would be huge cuts. Regardless of what was in the manifesto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Yeah, but plenty of people think that the cuts should fall only on the rich. Which is hard to do since it isn't the rich that take up the vast majority of public spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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