Doctor Whos Next

After watching Raw, Nitro's and PPVs from 95, I'll never complain about Twitter plugs on current WWE Programming again.   The hotline ads were annoying, more so in WCW with its news about WWF that they "Can't announce on the air."

The WWF is starting to get into the online chat thing calling any internet users "Hackers".   Talk about out of touch.  its like Vince Russo watched the first half hour of the Lawnmower man and told Vince M all the terms to use.  

Just got to October 1995 with my Network watch.   I'm trying to watch every PPV in order with the pre and post PPV Raws and Nitros thrown in there as well.  

Gotta say that while creative wasn't particularly strong with either side at this point, Nitro was a much slicker show.   Bischoff wasn't a brilliant play by play man, but he had a better energy about him than Vince did at that point.  

Few, even on this thread, would argue that Foley didn't deserve his late 90s spot.    

It's just what followed is what most people object to on here.  

The Nash special is a nice little piece

I noticed that old Hulk was edited out of the NWO footage but Vincent seemed to make the cut

The behind the scenes stuff from Nash's 1995 win was also pretty interesting

It was Lawler's choice of words - "he's going to come back to the WWF" - that got me wondering

Was Isaac Yankem DDS supposed to be played by someone else?

Just watching the post KOTOR 95 Raw and in the first Yankem promo, Lawler hints that he is a former WWF wrestler who became a dentist.

I didn't think Jacobs was in the WWF pre-Yankem

This sort of thing actually makes me want to sit down and write a comedy about British Wrestling.   But then it would be too depressing to see that the truth is so close to the fiction.  

Professional wrestling is all about the story. WWE has a story. It’s the largest company in the world. People want to pick up the story, so they buy the network, watch it on telly and go to the shows.

Every UK promotion tells its own story. The best story a new promotion can hope for is that “Hey look at us, we’re doing a wrestling show in this town, on this date.” Its just unfortunate that a huge chunk of those stories start off with “Once upon a time, there was a spanner who wanted to be the British Vince McMahon, instead of doing some real work”

If you had posted your ad, and ignored any of the comments that people have made since, then it would have petered out by the 3rd or 4th Page. Someone might have even given your show a go, and shrugged off the other comments. But you reacted. Each time a comment was made, you rose to it, which in turn generated more comments. Now, instead of being a local Britwres show that was enjoyed by a dozen kids while their parents had a pint, the legacy of LPW will be that it was run by a thin skinned chap couldn’t take criticism when he publicised his show to an internet forum. .

Here’s the thing. An aspiring wrestling promoter can build up a good local reputation among hard working folk in communities where the majority mightn’t be able to afford tickets to see the WWE when it’s over here.

Or they can try to win an Internet arguments on a forum where fools, particularly shitarse fools, are not suffered gladly by the people who run the place.

You’ve chosen the latter option.

Doctor Who's Next has it all wrong. This show is going to be a colossal shit regardless of good advice from us or not, so what we should be doing is enjoying the ride now and then savouring the aftermath.

I never said it wouldnt be shit. I'm just illustrating how an aspiring promoter should be presenting their show.

Okay, I was going to ignore this... but you know what? I’ve just scored a tenner on a Scratch card, and I’m feeling in a good mood.

When I say an age limit, I was actually referring to a minimum age to take part. I have been to a lot of wrestling shows at working men’s clubs, and I have really enjoyed them. I’ve seen the likes of the Blossoms, El Ligero, Kris Travis and even Spud at the social centre that’s less then ten minutes walk from my house, so to see them all on British Bootcamp, and Spud and The Blossoms on Impact was a great thrill. I’ve seen Trav and Bubblegum have great matches.

That being said at another show, at another venue I saw a 14 year old wrestler taken away in an ambulance. Iit wasn’t a work. Imagine the press they’d have gotten if he’d have died or been crippled.

What if a 14 year old girl with dreams of being a Diva comes to your school? What if the male wrestling teacher was accused of doing something inappropriate to her? Do you even know what a DBS check is?

Taking your point about the liability checks, your mate who promotes shows and advised you about liability posts, is he going to be working the show? Does he have any vested interest in it going ahead (or failing)?

Now putting that aside here are some top tips you might want to consider

What’s your key demographic? Are you appealing to Grandads who grew up on World of Sport, cynical bastards like me, or kids? You’ve got to gear the promotion of your gig towards your chosen audience. Let’s go with you posting on here to appeal to us lot:

Who is on your card? Why should I care about them? Why are they wrestling? I pay £9.99 a month to get access to the WWE Network, why should I pay half of that to watch two hours at a village hall that’s miles away from me?

What’s the hook... why is this event called Nemesis? Who is the Nemesis, whose Nemesis are they?

Have you thought about a logo for the event? What about someone who can help you just by looking through your first post in this thread, and helping you to tidy up some of the spellings and grammar?

This is the sort of thing you need to think about, and its a drop in the ocean. I can tell you what a Promoter should do until the cows come home, it doesn’t make me an expert. I mean no disrespect when I say this but the way you’ve presented on here, it comes like you’re saying “Come and pay me and my mates to pretend to be wrestlers for a bit”, leaving yourself open to ridicule and scorn.

Hell, me replying to you seriously has left me open to ridicule and scorn, so I guess the circle is complete.

Whats the age limit on the wrestling school? Is the teacher DBS checked? What happens if I attempt a bump as per the teacher's instruction and get a back injury?

While Its mostly pay per views and superstars that I watch regularly these days, my hats off to WWE's presentation that the only super fan regulars I have ever noticed in 24 years of watching were the three lads in white shirts and bow ties with pink letters that spelled "WWF".

So, is the TNA King of the Mountain Championship a continuation of the Legends/Global/TV Championship as Wikipedia suggests? 

I was at the PSI Shawn Michaels/JR one on Monday, and there was some lass who wasn't heckling, but shouting out barely comprehensible comments that I think were meant to be supportive.   To be fair I was sat quite a distance away.  .  

When the second half started, the MC kindly asked folks to stop watching the show "through their smartphone screens" and to let the guests "speak for themselves".   I'm guessing Shawn in particular had words because the first time the lass shouted up after that, he cut her down with "Who's telling this story, me or you?" which got a pop out of everyone else.   She shut up then.  

 

I was at the Flair event in Edinburgh and it was very well run.

The queues for the pictures and autographs weren’t too long and Flair was happy to chat away without too much of a holdup

 

Crticisms would be – the guy doing the interview asked some terrible questions – such as “Were you going to pass the Nature Boy name onto AJ Styles?” which then meant that for some reason he then felt the need to explain to Ric who Lionheart was which just ate up time.

The theme of the interview was supposed to be “1970’s and the NWA” which was never going to work as Ric just wanted to chat and tell stories – which was absolutely fantastic.

 

As always with wrestling Q&A’s there were some fans there who just wanted to try and get themselves over.

One asked during the Q&A if Ric would chop him. Ric just told him it was a waste of a question.

Another asked Ric if he knew who Conor McGregor was – Ric said no “If it ain’t Ronda or Brock I don’t watch UFC”. The guy then still asked Ric a question about Conor McGregor.

The final question before the ended I can’t really do justice but the lad had his replica belt and held it aloft like he was in the Lion King, started thanking Ric for making that title the gold standard in professional wrestling before then doing the same for the Four Horsemen hand gesture.

Hilarious but so cringeworthy.

 

Well worth the money if for nothing other than the interview section.

 

A wrestler monologue (eg Regal) or questions asked by a decent interviewer (eg Rob that PSI use) are the best. Chaos ensues when the audience participation starts.

 

The worst part of these shows is easily when the fans get to ask questions. Particularly in Scotland, as it's like a contest to mention ICW or Grado. Guys, we all get the ICW and Grado love you have, honestly - there's no need to bring it up at every event you attend, your tshirts (and probably drunkenness!) give the game away, mentioning them just isn't required.

 

Though the worst questions are the one's that go on forever, where you start to look forward to the end of the Q&A session. The Conor McGregor one highlighted above was a classic example of this.

 

MDA/Triple M could do with a better interview like Rob. I'd probably have preferred him to stand aside when the Q&A session started, as the professional compare/MC would have had better control of the crowd, and a wrestling knowledge isn't required to relay questions/decide who can ask a question.

 

I was at the show in Manchester where he mentioned it, and the impression I got was that he didn't want to do it because he didn't agree with the finish, and it was just a ringside appearance.

I'd had five pints by that point, though...

It was particularly entertaining, people would have questions aimed at Shawn and JR would jump in with his two penneth even though he wasn't asked.

 

According to Wrestling Data (not sure how accurate it is)

 

WWF TV-Taping @ Bethlehem

1995/12/19 @ Bethlehem, Pennsylvania (United States of America)

Diesel defeated Isaac Yankem, DDS (5:37 minutes)

 

I can't see anything in '96 and in this period Diesel would have been a full heel feuding with Taker?

He didnt turn full heel till the Feb 96 MSG show. This was roughly a month after Survivor Series where he turned tweener

 

Yep, meaning that Diesel and Yankem wouldn't have wrestled in March 96 like you said.

According to Wrestling Data (not sure how accurate it is)

WWF TV-Taping @ Bethlehem

1995/12/19 @ Bethlehem, Pennsylvania (United States of America)

Diesel defeated Isaac Yankem, DDS (5:37 minutes)

I can't see anything in '96 and in this period Diesel would have been a full heel feuding with Taker?

They promoted the Ric Flair tour. Their background seems to be hosting darts events.

 

I enjoyed the Flair show, the professional picture was phenomenal quality and the signings part ran smoothly.

 

Though my personal preference is theatre seating to being sat at tables, and I think I could survive without the food voucher. Ie grab a plate and queue up for curry/pies/Mac n cheese.

 

My gut instinct is telling me it shouldn't cost the same or more for Angle than Flair, but that said I'll probably end up going out of habit as I am an Angle fan.

Cheers!   At least they seem on the level.   Looking at the website they seem to promoting weeknight shows with Jim Duggan and Ted Dibiase while they are here for the weekend comicon appearances.   I'd actually prefer the shows to comicon appearances since they tend to be better atmospheres and the gold tickets work out 20 quid cheaper for the same stuff (photo and auto from both).at comicon.    

Has anyone ever been to one of this promotion's shows before?   It just seems a bit iffy the way the gold and silver tickets work. 

With the Gold, you are paying 15 quid for the right to spend more money, as there is no difference between gold and silver.  

Calling the basic option silver is also a bit misleading.  

The platinum is tempting I must admit, depending on dates

The prices seem reasonable but something just seems a bit off about the way its been presented.  

Triple M Promotions are presenting......

The Golden Truth Tour with Kurt Angle, November 2015

Locations announced (dates & venues TBA):

London 
Cardiff 
Leicester 
Barnsley 
Manchester 
Edinburgh

VIP SUPERFAN PACKAGE - £250 - limited to 10 people only

30 minute meet and greet with Kurt 
Pictures on your personal camera 
Champagne reception 
1 professional photo with our photographer which will be printed and signed on the night
3 signatures
Best seat in the venue front of stage 
1 personalised picture mount 
Option to buy up to 5 more signatures (£20 each)
1 Food voucher 
1 9X6 
Entry to the interview and Q and A

Platinum - £105

Reserved table seats 
2 signatures 
1 professional photo with our photographer printed out on the night 
1 Food voucher 
1 9X6 
Option to buy 3 more signatures (£20 each) 
Entry to the interview and Q and A 
Chance to ask a question in the Q and A

Gold - £45

Unreserved seats 
Guaranteed opportunity to purchase 1 pro picture only at £20 
Guaranteed opportunity to purchase 1 signature only at £20 
Entry to the Q and A

Silver - £30

Unreserved seats for the Q and A 
No chance of signatures or photos

 

I bought a WWE produced nWo shirt from a stall at the JR/HBK shirt at Manchester on Monday, and it got me thinking...

Would any talent get royalties from that?   I imagine with say Savage or Warrior T-Shirts the royalties go straight to the families, but with the nWo, would it be Hogan, Hall and Nash?   I can't see money going to Ray Traylor, Virgil or Stevie Ray, but I guess I could be wrong.  

As weird as this is for me to admit, I seem to be enjoying WWE much, much more since PowerSlam went out of print.  

FAQ for those attending the HBK Jim Ross Show

Jim Ross meet and Greet
5pm

When do doors open for everyone else?
6pm

What time is the show?
7pm - 9:15pm

What times is the Shawn Michaels meet & greet?
9:15 to 11pm

Can I pay on the day to meet Shawn or Jim?
Sorry these tickets have sold out

Can I use my own camera for the meet & greet?
No, we use a professional camera to give you the best quality and will then email you a link to download your photo.

See you all there!

Anyone else from the UKFF going?  

 

Just double checking, the pre show JR Meet and Greet on Monday at Manchester is at 6?   I've contacted PSI, but I imagine they're busy with the convention preparation

 

Really? The convention is the weekend before. Apart from getting the guests to the airport I don't see what the problem would be.

 

No, I mean they are busy now with convention preparation.   Running this type of gig is about more than just shoving a bunch of wrestlers in a room and saying "Have fun lads, see you in the bar later"  

- Keeping tabs on arriving planes, making sure everythings OK with the accomodation

- For the talks you've got to get your questions ready if any of them are being hosted by an MC.  

- Presumably the higher level guests may have a list of things they want, or "riders" as they call them in showbiz

- You've got to make sure your convention team know what they are doing (timetable, autograph costs, who can sign what) so that punters don't kick up a stink because Lita won't sign 50 photos from one person)

- From today, if not earlier, I imagine that the organisers will be at the venue and getting everything ready.   Again, I'm sure the Hotel does a lot of it, but you have to consider stuff like their own audio/visual equipment, banners, posters and so on.  

- Making up welcome packs etc.  

Just a few things off the top of my head.  

Just double checking, the pre show JR Meet and Greet on Monday at Manchester is at 6?   I've contacted PSI, but I imagine they're busy with the convention preparation

 

Stolen from another forum:

 

'Lana breaking up with Rusev in the WWE Universe to manage Dolph Ziggler has been a hot topic lately on the F4WOnline audio shows. Dave Meltzer, Bryan Alvarez and others are suggesting that Vince McMahon broke them up on-screen to facilitate a real-breakup, with Vince feeling that someone like Rusev shouldn’t be able to get a girl like Lana.

 

Normally when a real-life couple that is paired on-screen breaks up in kayfabe, history has shown that life may imitate art. It’s also common for the “new squeeze” to become the real life “new squeeze.” It’s an occupational hazard in both Hollywood and pro wrestling'.

What a fucking nutcase that bloke is.

 

And what does that mean, if by that logic he wanted an incest storyline with his daughter...