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What issue is the AJPW 90s article in? Sounds like something I'd like to read.

As sad as it is to see him like that, it's the best I've seen Heenan looking in a fair few years and its great to see him smiling.

Absolutely. He thinks a lot of himself and brags a fair bit, but the detail he goes into when talking about the characters he met and worked with is well worth reading about.

It was amazing to see Stan Lane in at number 47, Butch Reed at 122 and Dusty Rhodes at 191 (who Meltzer never seemed to have much good to say about in the late 80s) with a average of 2.58. Not sure it means much, but a very interesting list.

I hate how people in wrestling think sometimes. You have someone who loves his job, takes great pride in quality of what he does, will put maximum effort into everything and will do everything asked of him, and his colleagues and bosses mock him for it.

According to Arn Anderson, CM Punk is a locker room leader.

 

They also intimated that on his DVD. Wade in particular said he's always trying to help out and give advice to the younger guys.

He comes across as a right arrogant know-it-all so I can imagine him not being shy about telling everyone how to do stuff.

I was watching the latest Vintage Collection and it has a match from 1992 between Savage and Flair for the WWF Title, but the commentary was by Gorilla Monsoon and Jim Ross, who didn't join WWF until 1993.

 

Was it just given a different commentary at some point with these two or am I missing something?

As I understand, the Coliseum Video exclusive matches were recorded without commentary and the commentary was added often months later. I think they also used to redub the commentary on the matches from Madison Square Gardens shows which later found their way to video.

Scott Hall had another great interview on Austin's podcast. He said he's wants Cody Hall to use the claw as a finish. I dont think the claw is getting over in 2013, to be honest.

I hate the claw hold. The only time I ever got into it was in the Dusty Rhodes/Barry Windham match at Bash '88, where they somehow made a six-minute claw spot utterly gripping (no pun intended).

 

I can't see it working in 2013 either. Surely there are plenty other simple enough submissions he could use?

Look what the Big Shows been up to in his spare time:

He looks great. He would be much healthier if they put him on a Jericho contract. When ever he has a long time out, he looks better for it.

Jesus, that man must be frighteningly strong.

Surely the only way for a piledriver can be safe is if both shoulders are supported by the opponent's legs. If one leg is hanging off the apron, one shoulder has no support and the head drops too low and hits the ring. I'm just a fan and this seems obvious. Why would two professionals think this was a good idea?

Angle's been bulking up by the looks of it - his neck looks massive in that mugshot. He's also listed as 240 lbs which I guess is legit and if so is as big as he's ever been.

 

What an idiot though.

I think they will still shy away from featuring him directly, but where he is a participant in something bigger like a Wargames, he'll pop up from time to time. I guess it is like seeing a documentary of Radio 1 with a few shots of Jimmy Saville in it compared to watching re-runs of Jim'll Fix It. The latter will likely never happen.

Just read that Austin wasn't supposed to bleed at Mania '13? Never heard that anywhere before, surely its bollocks though? Austin passing out without bleeding would've been shite

 

Bret said in his book that he bladed Austin at his request. However blading was on the down-low at the time, much as it is now, so both guys denied it was supposed to happen that way, probably with smirks on their faces. I'm sure Vince, churning out those Blood Stone t-shirts, wasn't complaining.

Bret also says that Austin asked him to as he hadn't bladed before but he definately does at Starrcade 93 against Dustin Rhodes. I guess he may have had someone else do it for him in Wargames 92 though.

Also, at he start of he ladder match, Christy Hemme said "the following contest, scheduled for one fall is a ladders match". It's like she sits at ringside every week but really hasn't a clue what's going on.

 

Don't entirely see what's wrong with that. A "fall" is a period of competition or a means of scoring, depending how you look at it. Yes, the most common method of winning a fall is the "pinfall", but the two aren't interchangeable as terms.

 

You could have a 2-out-of-3 falls ladder match, if you wanted.

Fair enough, I just didn't think it sounded right.

 

It would have been more accurate if Hemme said "this next match is scheduled for several contrived falls". Because thats what you get with a Generation Meh match involving ladders.

That's definately more accurate, although I did like the fall off the ladder straight into the springboard summersault dive. Granted they'd obviously set up for him to fall off the ladder to the floor and be caught by the guys out there, but I didn't expect what happened.

There is one spot in the ladder match where it looks like one of them gets killed. Brutal spot. Mike Tenay said something like "there are bodies everywhere" in a monotone voice, completely ignoring the spot. How is he still employed?

Also, at he start of he ladder match, Christy Hemme said "the following contest, scheduled for one fall is a ladders match". It's like she sits at ringside every week but really hasn't a clue what's going on.

Inoly remarked on Hogan because I hadn't seen anyone mention it in their comments the list and thought I'd missed something obvious really. I guess most people couldn't be bothered because it was PS.

 

Basically. Elsewhere in this month's mag Martin describes the Hogan/Andre matches as "dire" (WMIII) and "abysmal" (The Main Event) and talks about how the Hulk's "formulaic matches were short by main event standards (10-13 minutes)" and as ever gives the bulk of the credit for the quality of the Hogan/Savage WMV main event to Macho. He's happy enough to laud Hogan the showman for his charisma, gravitas, business sense and so on, but Hogan the wrestler? Never.

What about Hogan Vs Warrior from WM6? It goes around 25 minutes and, I think, was a very good match. Warrior cannot be getting the credit for that one surely.

Does any footage exist of The Steiner's WCW Tag Title win over Arn Anderson and Bobby Eaton from May 1992? I remember seeing pictures of it in WCW magazine at the time and seem to recall it being a cage match and Rick wins by doing the mad move he used to do where he catches Eaton mid flying body press and gives him a belly to belly suplex while sitting on Anderson's shoulders. I think it was a house show in Chicago so doubt it was taped but thought it would be worth asking.

I know it is a tribute to Edge but really, is there a less appropriate wrestler to be using the spear than Christian?

I've read every Powerslam since late 1994 and I still enjoy it.

As Scott Hall and Jeff Jarrett showed in the video too, if you take the bump more safely, the pounce doesn't look nearly as good.

I actually thought Jarrett's bump was quite great.

You're right, actually, it's not Jarrett's bump that hurts the move here - he goes down quite hard but in a controlled way. The problem more is that Brown doesn't make nearly the same level of contact as he does with some of the other guys so Jarrett doesn't go careering out of control into the ropes. For me, the pounce was fun because of the impact with which some of the littler guys in particularly took it. Jeff Jarrett did his best to sell it there, but unless he was willing to risk injury (or Brown was willing to risk injuring his boss by sending him flying) it was never going to look as good. Scott Hall didn't even try though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUrdz66-NeY I miss Monty Brown and The Pounce. The Pounce was a sick move, Langston should have that as his finish instead of that stupid shit move he does these days.

It's not a particularly safe move though - a lot of those guys took out of control bumps into the ropes. As Scott Hall and Jeff Jarrett showed in the video too, if you take the bump more safely, the pounce doesn't look nearly as good.

Before becoming Dean Ambrose he was one hardcore mother fucker. From one of the Tournaments of Death.

Oh but look, his facial expressions are so good.

Pretty disgusting, though Ambrose claims the blade on this saw was fake and didn't hurt in the least. Given he wasn't killed, I believe him.

The Cruiserweight Championship's not been defended in 6 years Surely someone can step up and beat Hornswoggle for it?

As exciting a prospect of having smaller guys wrestling exciting high-paced matches is, when you have sub 230 pound guys like Rey Mysterio, Daniel Bryan, CM PUnk, The Miz and Dolph Ziggler in the recent title history of your heavyweight titles, it's a bit redundant to have a lighter weight division.

BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs *Infamous Powerbomb Spot*

 

I got to admit I don't reallly follow ROH so have never seen this before. Apologies if this has been posted/discussed before. Really scary stuff. Saw another vid where this spot was performed and Jacobs was powerbombed into the crowd. Crikey!

 

If that wasn't an accident and a planned spot, then that is one of stupidest things I've ever seen and both men are absolute dickheads for performing it (more if they came up with the spot as well).

 

It wasn't planned, Whitmer clearly loses his footing. However, the move whether it was planned to be into the ring or the crowd was still super dumb and an example of the idiocy that ROH workers are all too often guilty of.

Also, planned or not, this doesn't even compare to the stupidity of the planned spot from their return match where they do a top rope powerbomb to the floor in the crowd.

Always though the Iron Von Erich claw was awful myself

I always hated the claw too, but then I saw Barry Windham hold Dusty Rhodes in the claw for a full six minutes in their match at The Great American Bash 88. Words cannot describe how good Dusty's selling was here. On that occasion, the claw looked like a real killer submission.